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To think that we should all boycott the businesses of billionaires until they sort the situation of kids starving to death due to famine and war?

174 replies

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:06

They can literally afford to fix this issue.

Enough is enough.

Prayers for Sudan πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡© and to all those suffering across the world.

OP posts:
mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:07

MajorSamanthaCarter · Yesterday 20:03

Would she be allowed to post stupid gifs all day?

Eyeroll Ugh GIF

Stop reading my threads then - my username is there at the beginning.

OP posts:
SunnyWeekendl · Yesterday 20:07

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:12

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I'd boycott amazon though!

You would boycott Amazon but not google or Facebook? Good luck arranging this boycott without either

Tffds · Yesterday 20:08

I see posts like this (and one on a 100% income tax after Β£50 million) and think if the poster is a wind up, and if not..... why do the lack the understanding of economics, politics and geography to understand these issues cannot all be solved like this.

I genuinely think to myself, what happened at school.

38thparallel · Yesterday 20:10

When the purge comes, i'll be remembering some of these usernames, sorry

Can you tell us more about the β€˜purge’, op? What form will it take? Who will be purged?

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Yesterday 20:13

The businesses of billionaires are typically listed companies which are our pension investments, employ a lot of people and pay a lot of tax. Boycott them and we all suffer.

Also it is naive to think they alone can fix world hunger.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:16

The aid agencies are being attacked and aren’t able to deliver it. There is war raging around the country and the only ones who can help are their government.

You can feel free to boycott anything you want but I shall continue giving my money to Bezos (for all he’s an asshole).

By all means come up with a detailed plan of what could actually sort the situation. And pop over to help out.

But it’s slightly odd to claim you are bothered and then just post β€˜funny’ GIFs at people who disagree with you.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:19

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:38

Me unwatching my own thread because you lot defend billionaires too much πŸ™„πŸ™„

Can't even start a bloody uprising without people trying to get me off the internet.

When the purge comes, i'll be remembering some of these usernames, sorry πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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Genuinely, I do think that something can be done. Just like something can be done to eradicate poverty in the UK, by as taxing big companies, restricting BTL and stopping the sale of council land. Just like it isnt being done so as not to 'scare the big companies away' or 'interfere in the economy'.

Its unfortunate that some billionaires just aren't arsed about seeing babies sob on itv news.

It just depends on how you see the world, I guess.

Many people aren’t bothered about seeing babies sob on the news, we are bombarded by images until it has little impact.

Every time I read a virtue signalling thread, it makes me want to buy even more from Amazon.

user1471453601 · Yesterday 20:21

How would you like to pay under 4% of your pay in income tax? this is how much Amazon pays on its UK profits in the UK.

does that sound reasonable to you? Given that the average tax payer pays about 20% on earnings above approx Β£12k.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 20:21

What do will you boycott op? If it’s Amazon mn use their services.

YourPoliteTurtle · Yesterday 20:22

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:12

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I'd boycott amazon though!

great, but do you even know how many private sellers use Amazon to run their small business?

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:23

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:19

Many people aren’t bothered about seeing babies sob on the news, we are bombarded by images until it has little impact.

Every time I read a virtue signalling thread, it makes me want to buy even more from Amazon.

Ive posted 4 gifs. One of a mob, one of Steve carell saying no, to illustrate my frustrations. Two in response to people harassing me, and they arent funny.

This is a serious topic, but i am rightly just irritated about it. I dont claim to have the solution, but i would love to see people be forced to sort it. And even if hunger cant be stopped in countries we have no way of getting into, it can be stopped in other places and other ways, such as in the UK and by a billionaire deciding to do something about stabilising oil prices.

OP posts:
desperatemum1234 · Yesterday 20:26

YABU. No amount of money would solve those issues - the problem is corrupt regimes. Look how much Live Aid raised for famine victims, and how much reached the starving - only 5%. The rest siphoned off by corrupt people. The West gives fortunes in foreign aid to these countries - yet the starving always continues.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 20:30

MajorSamanthaCarter · Yesterday 20:03

Would she be allowed to post stupid gifs all day?

It will be a lot safer for all of us if that’s what she did.

Ilovelifeverymuch · Yesterday 20:30

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:23

Ive posted 4 gifs. One of a mob, one of Steve carell saying no, to illustrate my frustrations. Two in response to people harassing me, and they arent funny.

This is a serious topic, but i am rightly just irritated about it. I dont claim to have the solution, but i would love to see people be forced to sort it. And even if hunger cant be stopped in countries we have no way of getting into, it can be stopped in other places and other ways, such as in the UK and by a billionaire deciding to do something about stabilising oil prices.

And why is it up to the UK or forcing billionaires to stop it? Why not force the corrupt leaders and all the fighting groups in those countries to stop? Obviously easier said than done.

And WTF does this even mean πŸ˜‚?
"When the purge comes, i'll be remembering some of these usernames, sorry πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ"

I guess it's time for a name change to avoid the purge πŸ˜‚

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:32

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 20:23

Ive posted 4 gifs. One of a mob, one of Steve carell saying no, to illustrate my frustrations. Two in response to people harassing me, and they arent funny.

This is a serious topic, but i am rightly just irritated about it. I dont claim to have the solution, but i would love to see people be forced to sort it. And even if hunger cant be stopped in countries we have no way of getting into, it can be stopped in other places and other ways, such as in the UK and by a billionaire deciding to do something about stabilising oil prices.

How can you force people to do something about it? It may frustrate you but forcing people to throw their money into a bottomless pit is just envy.

Do you think that they would stop waging war? Of course they wouldn’t. Humans are a deeply unpleasant, violent species as shown by the fact that there are wars all the time.

If you shared the entire wealth of the world equally and then came back a couple of years later, many of the previously rich people would be rich again and many of the poor people would be poor again.

Nothing is as simple as throwing money at it.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 20:32

Also OP, how do you feel when Elon Musk tried to fix the UK according to his own beliefs?

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:33

Ilovelifeverymuch · Yesterday 20:30

And why is it up to the UK or forcing billionaires to stop it? Why not force the corrupt leaders and all the fighting groups in those countries to stop? Obviously easier said than done.

And WTF does this even mean πŸ˜‚?
"When the purge comes, i'll be remembering some of these usernames, sorry πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ"

I guess it's time for a name change to avoid the purge πŸ˜‚

Edited

Yeah that is one unhinged comment - I presume it was supposed to be funny. Slightly incongruous on a thread like this but what can you do?

NeverLookInTheMirror · Yesterday 20:33

The problems in Africa will never be solved.

The problems go far too deep, and it’s not just about corruption, although that definitely plays a part and is the reason why giving money to foreign countries in the name of foreign aid is pointless and is just funding said corruption.

But the problem goes as far as the cultural norms of the people you’re trying to help.

You can’t just solve world hunger by giving people food. You have to give them education. Because you go to any African country, and the people there look after their families and their families only. Give someone seeds to grow a crop and they won’t build a booming business, sell what they grow, feed their families and put some of the profits away, they will grow enough to feed their families. There is no concept of putting some by for a rainy day.

So you have to educate the people as well as tackling the corruption.

And then there’s the second reality.

In comparison to someone in Africa, poverty in this country does not exist. I’m not saying that people aren’t struggling financially but when you compare to countries where there is literally no food, no water, no government handouts, everyone here is in a position where they should be able to contribute to world hunger, after all, they have something the genuinely poor don’t.

Except that’s not how it works.

Even people like the OP is rich compared to people in DRC, and yet she isn’t saying how she is helping, she still thinks it should be someone else’s responsibility.

She’s no better than the owners of amazon, apple etc, she’s just in a different league.

NotDavidTennant · Yesterday 20:33

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:53

Thank you for this insightful measured response instead of just attacking me - you clearly do amazing work.

Mostly I just feel irritated - its one of those days where you just think, come on!

I wonder the cost of stabilising fuel costs for the whole world πŸ‘€ - could that cost more than a billion πŸ€”

Sure itd be propping up Donald Trump and the companies profiting from this war, but itd be stabilising economies around the world

Global fuel consumption is priced in trillions per annum so, no, a billion won't do much.

To put things in perspective: UK government spent Β£13 billion on aid last year. A billion is not that big a sum of money in this arena.

sleeppleasesoon · Yesterday 20:34

You’re beef is with capitalism OP. The answer is socialism.

Also join a trade union and get active. This is the working class vehicle for change.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:34

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · Yesterday 20:32

Also OP, how do you feel when Elon Musk tried to fix the UK according to his own beliefs?

Good point - if you force the rich to hand over their money, do you not think there will be conditions attached? The plebs would have to live their lives controlled by the people who are funding them.

WheretheFishesareFrightening · Yesterday 20:37

mumofoneAloneandwell · Yesterday 19:12

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I'd boycott amazon though!

You’d struggle. AWS hosts an awful lot of website (I think included government websites), and is where they make nearly all of their money. It’s not even practically possible to know what websites use it so it’s almost impossible boycott.

Anarchy99 · Yesterday 20:38

If you actually want to do something OP, then do something. Demanding others give away their money is a lazy option - like those threads on here from people who are angry that their parents or in-laws are well off and won’t hand over their money to them

VanGoSunflowers · Yesterday 20:42

User774563 · Yesterday 19:38

Exactly this. It's so pseudo-intellectual to spout off against "billionaires" as a way of trying to appear smart. Anyone who has a bit of intelligence knows that developmental issues like wars, famine, corruption etc can never be solved by money alone. Some regions of the world have always been plagued by violence and giving them aid has never significantly changed anything. How can money help when a country has miserable rates of human rights, zero gender equality and democracy?

Even if you provide funding to build new schools for girls, those in charge of the projects are all local males and most of the money will disappear under corrupt circumstances. Local politicians are ones who need to make lasting change and if they show no interest, why should a random Jeff Bezos who has fuck all to do with Sudan be forced (by the leftist police?) to give up his money for something else.

Just imagine you have a neighbour down the road whose on benefits, has 5 kids with 3 men, alcoholic and always complains about being broke. The someone comes and forces you to send her Β£100 a month. Simply because you earn more than her. You don't know her personally, you don't approve of her life choices, but you are now forced to give up your money because some random entity decided it's "fair" because her life makes them feel sad. Why the hell would anyone agree to that?

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I mean, I completely agree with you. But you just described the welfare system being propped up by tax payers πŸ™ƒ

BatFinkk · Yesterday 20:42

Why do you post such inane threads with equally inane and inappropriate gifs?