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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
hyggetyggedotorg · Yesterday 22:04

I understand you needed to cancel the family holiday because you needed to move house at the exact same time. That was clearly unavoidable.

I do think it’s a bit off that the only two breaks/holidays you can afford to keep this year are just yourself & DH though.

It’s not 2 nights out of 365 if you & DH are also away together alone in September is it? Personally I would have either made the camping weekend a family break (for all of you including DS) or done the same with the September holiday - although the start of Year 10 isn’t an ideal time I guess.

Nothing she did seems all that bad for a teenager TBH. And most campsites do have a rule that dogs must be kept on leads - especially sites with animals nearby. If you were sticking to that the dog wouldn’t have been able to follow her.

I get what you mean about the tent being joined to the car - but I think I’d just have swapped with DSD as soon as she became scared - or DH would.

I have a 14 year old DD & we were camping last week. Mine was also very reluctant to help set up or pack up the tent! She was revising for her mocks though so can’t complain too much 😆.

Notashamed13 · Yesterday 22:06

YABU for not keeping your dog on the lead around livestock.YOUR dog, your responsibility. Shame on you. Another.entitled dog owner. That aside, kid is 14......

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:07

Notashamed13 · Yesterday 22:06

YABU for not keeping your dog on the lead around livestock.YOUR dog, your responsibility. Shame on you. Another.entitled dog owner. That aside, kid is 14......

😆

SlinkyScottishPineMarten · Yesterday 22:08

The ageism and misogyny on this thread is appalling. This 13 year old child has been called a little bitch, little cow, spoilt brat, madam etc. If this was an older woman would these posters be content to see her described as a “decrepit old bitch”?! No?! Then why are the disgusting ageist and misogynist terms towards a 13 year old girl acceptable?!

Op I think you created the thread to incite a pile on and you have successfully done so. On that basis alone you are the asshole. Given your story keeps changing - there were sheep in nearby fields then there weren’t, she knocked on the car window and screamed waking everyone up but it was a car tent and no one was around etc, you are a dishonest one at that.

Bedtimeread · Yesterday 22:09

I have a 13 year old son and I wouldn’t be happy to have him in the tent alone and us in the car- however I also understand the teenage attitude and wanting things their way, it can be frustrating. Really I think your husband shouldn’t have allowed her to come, that had already got your back up and it sounds like everything she did was making you more mad. On another day you may have had more tolerance for her. You are entitled to a break just the 2 of you, maybe organise another one.

FKAT · Yesterday 22:11

Your husband sounds useless. You sound controlling - why are you repacking her bags? Who cares what she packs for two days in a field? My kids have been packing their own bags since primary age - even if that means they take 3 pairs of underpants for 2 weeks in Florida. Why are you doing all the parenting?

You lost me at having your dog off lead near sheep.

It all sounds like a Mike Leigh film.

BippidyBoppety · Yesterday 22:12

OP, rather than trying to argue with people who are pointing out all the obvious parenting (also dog owning) failures, why not acknowledge that you did some stuff wrong. You and your husband are the adults in this, you are there to care for your step daughter. You are the owner of the dog that was off lead. Your responsibility.

So many people have made solid observations. You literally ask "am I the arsehole" and then submit all these reasons as to why you're not because of this, that and the other.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 22:17

AlternateLook · Yesterday 21:08

It was only a matter of time before the MegaMums on here descended on the poor OP to give her a good kicking. This place never changes....

Yes, poor OP, can’t get her story straight without embellishing the truth.

Clonakilla · Yesterday 22:24

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 20:11

I don't need to check myself, an almost 14yr is well aware of how they're behaving.

So is an adult calling a child a bitch. Very unpleasant behaviour.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:25

What a miserable trip. You can’t really heap all the blame on her though. It seems like even her breathing would have irritated you as you complained about having to pack extra food! You did say that you and her dad told her off for each little thing. Even a saint would get grumpy if they’re told off every two seconds.

Unless she’s a veteran at camping, she won’t know how or what to pack. I’m sure you told her off for that.

Teenagers get hungry very often because they are growing. As you said, you told her off for not being satisfied with snacks.

Why would you put her alone in a tent with the dog? That seems pretty cruel and calculated to freak her out. As you said, you told her off for being scared and calling for you both.

When she did predictably, get frightened, YOU chose to squeeze three plus a dog in a VW Passat, why didn’t you or her dad decamp to the tent when she needed the safety of the car? And her complaints about it being hot and cramped, you admitted that it was hot and cramped so she was only stating fact. But, as you said, you both told her off for the consequences of your decision and pointing out the shortcomings.

Did you not realise she was wandering off with the dog to get away from the two of you to give you that precious romancing time alone? I think it would have been lose lose for her. She takes off and babysits your dog so you can have adult alone time and you get angry. If she’d hung about, you’d be angry she didn’t find something to do so you could be alone with her dad. But as you said, you told her off every time she went off to entertain herself and dog sit your dog.

The dog is your dog, you can’t blame her because it ran after the sheep. But apparently you went apeshit at her, shouted at her and blamed her for your dog disturbing sheep. That’s on you. Any responsible dog owner knows a dog won’t listen to a kid in a family like it does a parent/owner.

The lesson to learn here is don’t blame a child for a shitty camping weekend that consisted of a teenager doing normal teen things like asking for help packing, or asking for a proper meal, or exploring the campsite to give you adult time, or being afraid to sleep alone in a tent, or not having 100% control over your dog around sheep when you should have been minding your dog.

The poor kid can’t do anything right.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:29

I see in an update, the dog which YOU left unsecured ran after her, followed her and you know the dog doesn’t listen to her. That was 100% your fault.

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:35

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:25

What a miserable trip. You can’t really heap all the blame on her though. It seems like even her breathing would have irritated you as you complained about having to pack extra food! You did say that you and her dad told her off for each little thing. Even a saint would get grumpy if they’re told off every two seconds.

Unless she’s a veteran at camping, she won’t know how or what to pack. I’m sure you told her off for that.

Teenagers get hungry very often because they are growing. As you said, you told her off for not being satisfied with snacks.

Why would you put her alone in a tent with the dog? That seems pretty cruel and calculated to freak her out. As you said, you told her off for being scared and calling for you both.

When she did predictably, get frightened, YOU chose to squeeze three plus a dog in a VW Passat, why didn’t you or her dad decamp to the tent when she needed the safety of the car? And her complaints about it being hot and cramped, you admitted that it was hot and cramped so she was only stating fact. But, as you said, you both told her off for the consequences of your decision and pointing out the shortcomings.

Did you not realise she was wandering off with the dog to get away from the two of you to give you that precious romancing time alone? I think it would have been lose lose for her. She takes off and babysits your dog so you can have adult alone time and you get angry. If she’d hung about, you’d be angry she didn’t find something to do so you could be alone with her dad. But as you said, you told her off every time she went off to entertain herself and dog sit your dog.

The dog is your dog, you can’t blame her because it ran after the sheep. But apparently you went apeshit at her, shouted at her and blamed her for your dog disturbing sheep. That’s on you. Any responsible dog owner knows a dog won’t listen to a kid in a family like it does a parent/owner.

The lesson to learn here is don’t blame a child for a shitty camping weekend that consisted of a teenager doing normal teen things like asking for help packing, or asking for a proper meal, or exploring the campsite to give you adult time, or being afraid to sleep alone in a tent, or not having 100% control over your dog around sheep when you should have been minding your dog.

The poor kid can’t do anything right.

Looks like the teenager's got herself a MN login by the look of that post...😁😂

Strawberry53 · Yesterday 22:40

You have a DH issue. He should be parenting her properly, setting boundaries and explaining the trip was for just the two of you from the beginning. She’s 14, he’s a grown man! Your anger and resentment should be directed far more at him than her.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:41

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:35

Looks like the teenager's got herself a MN login by the look of that post...😁😂

Been on MN since 2005. I created my account 7 years before I was born and saved it for just this special step mama issue. 🤪

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:42

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:41

Been on MN since 2005. I created my account 7 years before I was born and saved it for just this special step mama issue. 🤪

😂

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:43

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:42

😂

In all seriousness, I would not want to be 14 again. 34 was a good year, I would jump at being 34 again.

ForeverPombear · Yesterday 22:45

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:30

It was a CAR TENT. Attached to the rear of the vehicle with the boot lid open. No one was alone. If I shuck my hand out of the car it would have been on her head.

there was NOONE ELSE in the field.

You said in your OP that she woke up the whole campsite but you've said here there was no one else in the field.

I'd have also had the dog on a lead but that's because I'm the partner of a farmer who has seen what dogs 'with the perfect recall' can do. I have also never been to a campsite where dogs were off leads.

Do back to my first paragraph - if others were around dog should have been on lead. If no one else was in the field but sheep were near by then dog still have been on a lead.

Tabarnak · Yesterday 22:45

MyAutumnCrow · Yesterday 18:52

You sound like the family from hell in the countryside. Put your dog on a lead around sheep. No ifs, no buts.

And on campsites.
I don't know of a single campsite where dogs don't have to be on leads at all times.

However, it is true that your dog sounds better behaved than your Dsd.

14 yo girls can be truly obnoxious. I was. I grew out of it (I think)

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 22:47

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:41

Been on MN since 2005. I created my account 7 years before I was born and saved it for just this special step mama issue. 🤪

I think you make some good points!

AlternateLook · Yesterday 22:50

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 22:43

In all seriousness, I would not want to be 14 again. 34 was a good year, I would jump at being 34 again.

I've a bit of an open mind about it. I don't know if I'd actually thank you for the chance to be 14 in particular again, but I suppose I'd like the chance to do a few things better if I got the chance. Things might've worked out a bit better in some areas. Ach, well, if pots and pans were ifs and ands, eh....?

cranberryhaddock · Yesterday 22:51

takealettermsjones · Yesterday 21:00

Of course they are, and children are renowned for only seeing things from their perspective. In this case, to the child, her holiday got cancelled but the two she was barred from did not.

From what she's written it doesn't really sound like any major sacrifices were made for the child. It reads to me like the Dursleys grudgingly taking Harry Potter to the zoo because the neighbour broke her leg!

Taking her on the trip at all was a pretty major sacrifice, which it doesn't sound as though OP's DSD appreciated.

fabstraction · Yesterday 22:51

Why would anyone take a 14-year-old on an anniversary holiday? It's not a place for teenage kids, really. Next time (if there is a next time), remind your husband of this whole fiasco and stand firm. She didn't need to come camping. She can survive being told 'no' from time to time.

Greenhave · Yesterday 22:59

She sounds like a nightmare. She also sounds like a typical 14 year old, maybe you are irritated by her behaviour more than her father because she is your step daughter and not your daughter

PixieTales · Yesterday 23:05

Why an earth did either of you agree to bring her along? Totally inappropriate, just say no sorry not this trip.

I also am really angry and disgusted about her putting the dog in danger, but that’s another story!

Yes she sounds like a horrible self entitled brat, but then why take her on your romantic camping trip?! Surely you knew what she was like before this.

Dodorogers · Yesterday 23:08

you are being a massive arsehole for having your dog off a lead near sheep and that is entirely your fault not your stepdaughters. No dog should be off the lead no matter how much ‘redirecting’ you do