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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
Pistachiocake · Yesterday 23:14

It's wrong you took her and not your son-both or neither. Unless she has additional needs, pretty much everything here is concerning. If my children, who are younger, took a dog near sheep to "catch" one, I'd be taking them to get help asap-wanting to hurt animals (or not understanding why this is a problem) is very worrying.

Saladcreamormayo · Yesterday 23:19

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · Yesterday 18:33

Thank god you didn't go for a week, I've got a hair appointment on Friday

😂😂😂😂

Beachcomber74 · Yesterday 23:22

Sleeping in a car? The whole holiday is doomed unless you’ve all got somewhere to properly sleep. You’re all operating on empty. All sounds horrendous.

BellesAndGraces · Yesterday 23:27

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:33

It was a car tent attached to the rear of the vehicle so no one was alone.

i never ruined anything 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

been camping plenty of times without either child and had a lovely time. Yes I shouted at her. That’s what you’re supposed to do as a parent.

Btw, was it a car tent? Not sure if it was a car tent or not.

SpiritAdder · Yesterday 23:43

Yes I shouted at her. That’s what you’re supposed to do as a parent.

No, parents aren’t supposed to shout at their children or stepchildren.

KnittyKnotty · Yesterday 23:54

You all sound a bit feral tbh, this is pretty much why I gave up camping as there was always 'that family' who destroyed the peace and tranquility for everyone else.

WilfredsPies · Today 00:19

You’re not an asshole, because you’re in the UK, where you would be an arsehole.

You seem to be under the impression that it’s ok to let your dog wander around off the lead because he comes back when you tell him to. It’s very much not ok, particularly as those sheep had access to the field you were in, and your dog very clearly does not have perfect recall if you’re having to refocus his attention with a ball or food. Dogs may have been domesticated but there isn’t a breed alive that has had the chase instinct and the bloodlust completely eradicated from their instincts. You’re bloody lucky that your dog wasn’t shot and all because you don’t know how to behave in the countryside.

And why are you getting snippy with posters asking what your DH was doing while you were running around after her? He didn’t support you when you wanted her to stay home, he didn’t discipline her when she was being a dickhead and he didn’t say anything when she went wandering off. Yes, she’s behaved really badly but that’s what teenagers do. That’s why their parents need to set out clear boundaries. What did your DH do, exactly?

Grammarnut · Today 00:30

Your dog should have been on a lead at all times if there were livestock about. You are lucky he wasn't shot. And that needed explaining to your step-daughter. But your DH should have said she was not coming on your anniversary break. He is being a useless parent and needs to step up.

LancashireButterPie · Today 00:52

Grammarnut · Today 00:30

Your dog should have been on a lead at all times if there were livestock about. You are lucky he wasn't shot. And that needed explaining to your step-daughter. But your DH should have said she was not coming on your anniversary break. He is being a useless parent and needs to step up.

Yes, came here to say that too.
No dog should be off lead near livestock, ever.

theodoretrout · Today 01:11

Next time send her off with your husband and let him deal with her, and you take off for a nice break on your own.

LochLoughton · Today 01:23

Well, this is just what 13 year olds can be like. Not all of them, but some for sure. Your husband needs to engage with her, rather than you.

I don't necessarily agree that she shouldn't have been on the holiday. If I've understood correctly, you cancelled the family holiday because of financial problems (understandable). But you kept in place the 'couples' holiday to come later in the year and also this two day break, which you'd prefer to be just for you and your husband.

That seems quite unfair and a lot of emphasis put on protecting 'couple time'. I wouldn't expect to prioritise those things until the youngest child in the family was at University.

Italiangreyhound · Today 01:56

You are not being an arsehole at all.

She was awful but I'd try and put it behind you now.

You won't take her again.

DreamTheMoors · Today 02:13

This takes me right back to that weekend my niece spent with us - and in the immortal words of Ferris Bueller’s school secretary, “mm mm mm - what a little asshole.”
I had to laugh at your rant - because you’re as furious as I was - and I was going to suggest waiting 30 years and looking back and laughing.
Only it’s been 30 years for me and I still can’t find anything to laugh about that long weekend.
So scratch that.
I recommend margaritas. Okay, well not really margaritas — just good old reliable tequila.
And copious amounts of it.
I’m happy to report that that little shit grew into a lovely woman.
Yes, Dream - proof there is a god.
❤️

Zanatdy · Today 02:48

it sounds awful, but the dog off lead around sheep shouldn’t have happened, and as the owner, it’s on you if your dog was shot. I have teenage kids and i’d never let them take the dog off with no lead on around sheep, because I just wouldn’t take the risk. Blame the teen all you like, but the buck stops with you, and that’s the view the police would have too. Dogs often listen more to their ‘master’. Poor sheep, so stressful for them. You do need to accept overall responsibility for this part.

dayslikethese1 · Today 03:22

Do you think perhaps she is craving some quality time alone with her dad?

lunar1 · Today 03:35

You were pissed off before you started and it showed. She was pissed off and hurt, two holidays were planned, hers was cancelled with her dad, yours wasn’t, so why when there was an opportunity for an extra weekend away didn’t he plan something with her in mind?

she insisted on going on principle, you and her were looking for ways to spoil it and be angry, and her dad was bone idle, all of this would have been avoided if he’d considered his young teens needs when planning his time and resources.

a 13 year old should never have been alone in a tent where she had to knock on the boot of the car to get to an adult, it sounds like you attached the tent and kept her shut out of the car if she had to knock, her selfish dad wouldn’t have easily heard her in an emergency.

you all behaved horribly, only one of you is a child.

user1492757084 · Today 03:44

My car would have turned around after half an hour and taken her home. Either she or I would have stayed at home.

Dancingspleen1 · Today 03:56

The stand out issue OP is the dog chasing the sheep was 100% you snd your DH's fault. No responsible dog owner would take the risk and they certainly wouldn't blame a 14 yr old girl.

orangegato · Today 04:25

Why do people pander to step children on here? Like a couple cannot have a single trip away so as not to upset the precious step children?

She’s 14! You are allowed to go places without her! Fuck that. I’d bin the husband which takes care of the other problem for you.

Couldn’t handle this much wet patheticness.

99bottlesofkombucha · Today 04:47

I would say to dh that he ruined your anniversary weekend by making the call to let her come, which he now realises totally changed the weekend and made you quite miserable, snd ask him to rebook for just you two. And if she goes you’re not going.

UNLESS your ds has similarly ruined things and you didn’t do any make up effort to your dh

PinkyFlamingo · Today 04:53

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:08

He did parent 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

thanks for your advice… not.

No he didn't! Telling her off, oh I'm sure she's scared. 🙄

NOTANUM · Today 05:39

I destroyed a family weekend away for similar reasons - I was moody, boorish, difficult.. There is a photo from the weekend where I look like Morrissey “Heaven knows I’m miserable know”. Delightful I was not.

I didn’t come close to destroying a flock of sheep but definitely tortured a sibling or two..

My parents laughed about it for years at my expense and I was mortified. That’s kids for you!

Just move on and forget it now.

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