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Am I the Asshole for being upset that my stepdaughter came on our anniversary camping trip and ended up ruining the weekend?

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Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

OP posts:
Conniebygaslight · Today 06:30

the7Vabo · Yesterday 18:52

This, she’s a pain but she’s 14 things have to be black & white when it comes to stuff like the dog on a lead.

I also wouldn’t have left a 14 year old girl in a tent by herself. One of my biggest fears for my DD is that she’d be attacked. I’d have just said no you can’t go the car sleeps 2.

This….Absolutely no way would I have had a 14 year old alone in a tent. Jesus.

autumn1610 · Today 06:38

Yeah she was being a brat. But you should have set an example and had your dog on the lead in the fields when he was walking through. She’s seen you walk him through without so thought it would be ok. Yes you told her not to go up there. If they were out the way as you said, how did you see your dog chasing them. Doesn’t matter if he’s trained dogs should always be on the lead around livestock. Hopefully none of these were pregnant as can cause miscarriages. You’ve been entirely irresponsible irrespective of your SD but you don’t see that even though everyone else has told you the same.

millymollymoomoo · Today 06:48

OP as a step parent you’ll never be in the right here I’m sfraud

however

your dh should have said no to her coming
you are entitled to a couple of nights away ( from children and stepchildren)
she was obnoxious, bratty and sulky - normal teen girl behaviour really and she was never going to enjoy it hence should never have come
id be furious re the dog and would be deeply angry with her for that - and yes she needs go know the consequences

having a teen boy and girl from my study of n of 1 ( ie me) id say my dd was much worse as a teen - emotional, sulky, stroppy, argumentative, rude . But also lovely, kind, caring, polite, hard working, thoughtful. You just never knew which one you’d get at any particular time !

DearDenimEagle · Today 06:53

A 14 yr old should not be behaving like a 4 yr old. Actually, I don’t know of any 4 yr olds that would behave so badly. She should have been dealt with at the packing stage ..why on earth did you pack for her? Do it right, do it now, or you aren’t coming. And every time she threw a strop. Though I would not have let her go for that particular occasion. The very idea that a 14 yr old , hell, any age, acts so entitled…so what if she didn’t get a holiday..there’s no right to trips away.

I went camping with my parents. I was 8 , they were in the tent and I was in the car. I would not have dreamt of disturbing them in the night, even though the strange surroundings kept me awake ..trying to sleep stretched on a car seat, with the rain belting on the car roof. Couldn’t even see the tent..it was on the beach. I was in the car park.
My kids came camping with us ..one was 10, the other 12. They slept in one tent, we in another. They did most of the cooking, at their request, on a gas stove or a bbq , helped put tents up and pack the car. At the time, we thought nothing of it. Reading this..well, I really think parenting has gone down the tubes. Your DH needs to get his finger out.

And I just noticed ‘Is it possible she feels like you’ve said there’s no money for things but then you’re going away?’
WTF? It’s not her business. No wonder she acts like she did if that’s considered a reasonable hypothesis. It’s none of her business, what money they have or have not and what they do with it. She didn’t earn it. She should have some autonomy , but at 14 she should also be able to behave , follow instructions and help, not hinder.
DH and her mother have failed as parents.

Imbusytodaysorry · Today 06:53

@Lollylucyclark101 she sounds like a moody teenager . He needs to back you up more . I’d start by putting my foot down and saying you stay every second weekend so you can plan stuff for then . I’ve had a step mum and been a step mum . It doesn’t sound like she is normally “left out “ so I think it’s fine to take the odd break alone or day /night out . It ridiculous to think other wise.

However it your dh you need to be having or with. Then he needs to have words with his daughter .

MyDeftDuck · Today 07:16

Seemingly, no one has ever said ‘No’ to the child. Parents divorced and I imagine she was an only child to that marriage……….at 14 years old she should be responsible enough to pack clothes and toiletries for a holiday, keep a dog on a lead - particularly close to farm land, and not go swimming on her own.

She is testing you OP. She knew how to press all your buttons and it is time for someone to start parenting her and start to say No!

EdithBond · Today 07:20

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 20:33

It was a car tent attached to the rear of the vehicle so no one was alone.

i never ruined anything 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️

been camping plenty of times without either child and had a lovely time. Yes I shouted at her. That’s what you’re supposed to do as a parent.

No, it’s really not what you’re supposed to do as a parent.

You shouldn’t shout at adults or kids. Especially kids that aren’t your own.

Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.
There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

As for whether you’ve been an asshole, I’d say your DH has. Why did he agree to his kid coming on a romantic anniversary trip with his wife? Bit weird.

And why did you agree to go if he insisted on her coming?

EvieBB · Today 07:23

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 18:27

I want to start by saying that I’m a stepmum, and I’ve been in my stepdaughter’s life for nearly 11 years. She was three years old when I met her, and she’ll be turning 14 in November.

I have a very good relationship with her mum, and I do a lot for my stepdaughter. I take her to and from school twice a week, cook for her, do her washing, clean her bedroom, look after her when she’s ill, and generally do all the things a parent would do. I also have an 18-year-old son. My stepdaughter comes everywhere with us—shopping trips, the cinema, family days out. We rarely get weekends to ourselves because she’s usually with us, and I’ve never had a problem with that because I genuinely love her.

Every year, my husband and I celebrate our anniversary with a trip to the Lake District. This year was supposed to be no different. However, earlier this year we found out we were going to be made homeless, so we had to cancel both a planned family holiday. All of our money had to go towards moving costs, deposits, rent, and setting up a new home.

We still have a couples holiday booked for September to celebrate ten years together and two years of marriage, but our usual anniversary trip to the Lake District had to be cancelled. Instead, we decided on a simple two-night camping trip. The plan was for it to be just me and my husband.

As soon as my stepdaughter found out, she was furious. She felt it was unfair that we were going away when she hadn’t had a holiday herself and insisted she should come too. (Despite her already going away with her mom twice this year, and another break planned in August) Honestly, I didn’t want her to come….. and we didn’t invite my son.

There is one day out of the entire year that I feel should just be for me and my husband. However, my husband thought it wouldn’t be a big deal and said we should take her.

So we did.

That meant buying an extra airbed, packing more food, and accommodating her gluten-free diet. On the day we left, I gave her a backpack and asked her to pack a couple of days’ worth of clothes, plus essentials like deodorant, a toothbrush, and a hairbrush.

She came downstairs with three overstuffed bags full of clothes that had simply been thrown in. I ended up unpacking everything, folding it properly, and repacking it all into one bag myself…… with her being argumentative and rude as I didn’t it, trying to explain it would all fit. I also had to remind her multiple times to get her toiletries…. Which she didn’t do, so had to use all of mine….. (which meant her diving into bags that were not hers, moving and loosing things whilst we were there, and generally making a mess with the bags)

Fifteen minutes into the journey, she announced she was hungry….. this is despite her eating before we left and her having snacks for the journey……. She got rude and argumentative, until we said she had to wait an hour. We stopped at services for food and to walk the dog, where she decided she needed to empty the car to find the hairbrush she didn’t bring.

When we arrived at the campsite, she refused to help put up the tent or unload the car, and when she was wanted to do was explore…… all fine…..but there’s no need for the attitude. All she wanted to do was wander around with the dog. There were sheep in nearby fields, so I specifically told her not to take the dog up there and not to wander off.

For the first two days, the dog was perfect. He was off-lead the entire time, ignored the sheep completely, and stayed close to us. He is well trained and has specific commands, all of which he immediately responds to.

The first night, she complained about sleeping alone in the tent, despite us explaining before we left, and when we initially invited her; that she and the dog would be in the tent while my husband and I slept in the car.

She complained about the food (BBQ), the ants, the spiders, the sheep poo, the midges….. everything that I had warned her about BEFORE WE LEFT.

The next morning, instead of getting dressed and helping us get ready for the day, she disappeared to the lake with the dog because she wanted to go swimming….. she didn’t ask and for a few mins we didn’t know where she or the dog was! We were literally trying to detach the tent, get dressed and leave for the day, and she simply ignored what we’d asked her to do….. and when she came back it was “oh sorry, I didn’t know” (and I’m like YEA YOU DID!)

She was fine in the local town and beach because it’s what SHE wanted to do. Usually we would have just hiked with the dog all day, but she complained about us wanting to do that too, so we didn’t.

The second night cooler and was windy and rainy. She was perfectly safe in the tent but decided she no longer wanted to sleep there at about 3 am, screaming (instead of just knocking the rear window of the car) and waking up the whole campsite…..she wanted to sleep in the car with us instead. So all three of us ended up squeezed into a Volkswagen Passat on an airbed.

Nobody could move. It was hot and she spent the next hour complaining that she was too hot and didn’t have enough room, that she was uncomfortable…….Eventually I completely lost my patience, got up, and tried to leave to sleep in the tent with the dog instead. Only then did my husband offer to move.

By the final morning, everyone was exhausted. I was trying not to loose my temper, but everything I asked her to do was “why can’t you? or “I’m not doing that”….. when I specifically to help us pack up her things and put everything in one area ready to load into the car, she again complained she didn’t have room for everything in her one bag abs threw it on the floor saying “well you do it then”……..

Instead, she wandered off again with the dog, whilst we were distracted.

The dog followed her towards the area where the sheep were. This time, he decided to chase them. The moment I shouted for him, he stopped immediately and came running back to me and i immediately put him in the car.

My stepdaughter came back saying she didn’t understand why he’d done it and that she’d been telling him to stop but he wasn’t listening.

At that point, I completely lost my temper and I really, REALLY shouted at her. I told her that farmers are legally entitled to protect their livestock and that the dog could have been shot dead because she ignored my repeated instructions. I had specifically told her not to go up that part of the camp. She kept blaming the dog and saying it wasn’t her fault.

The dog had behaved perfectly for two days. He had not been on a lead the entire time and if I saw his focus drifting, he was recalled and refocused on his ball or food or something else It was only when she wandered off up near the sheep because SHE wanted to “catch” one, that there was a problem.

The entire drive home, I barely spoke. I was upset, frustrated, and honestly resentful. My husband has told me I’m being too harsh and that I need to let it go and she understands.

My husband DID tell her off each with each incident (so did I in my interactions with her), so we arnt letting her get away with it.

My view is that she shouldn’t have been on the trip in the first place, that the whole point was for my husband and me to spend some time together, and that her behaviour throughout the weekend made what was supposed to be our anniversary trip stressful and unenjoyable and the incident with the dog just was the icing on the cake. She’s nearly 14. Big enough to follow instructions.

Safe to say she won’t be coming with me again. I’d rather not go than take her again. My husband thinks I’m being silly.

YANBU...but the length of that post was 😱
But I get that you wanted to explain.....and vent.....don't blame you.....she sounds like an absolute pain in the bloody arse! Hopefully she will grow up to be more mature and will be mortified at the way she behaved back in the day.
I'm sorry you didn't get to have some quality time with DH. You absolutely deserve it. Im fact you deserve another actual holiday after those nightmare few days. You'd have been better off staying at home. YANBU

MurunBuchstansangursCousinRossiter · Today 07:31

If you hadn’t written a long OP the same people whingeing would have said “Well you need to give us more detail - we can’t decide if YABU unless we know what she did”. People just like to be arseholes sadly. It doesn’t always occur to them that scrolling past is always an option if reading is a challenge for them.

As for your SD - she was being an insufferable little bitch and I wouldn’t be taking her away again. And your DH is a drip.

Sallysparkles · Today 07:33

I think it’s an overreaction to say you’ll never take her on holiday again. I agree with others that that sounds like a pretty common set of behaviours by a 14 year old.

However I get that you’ve had a stressful time, feel that you deserved a proper break and are disappointed and frustrated with your SD. Try and remember though that she’s likely massively hormonal, thinks she’s grown up but really, really isn’t.

That said it’s reasonable to say that you have to set some boundaries. So some occasions are just for you and your husband and she has to accept that. It’s fine to sit her down and say why you’re going just the two of you, although your husband should be doing that. I found with my difficult teen that I had to explain why and actually sit him down and do it and then he was more likely to go along with it. He couldn’t see it himself.

The good news is that he became a normal person at some point - around 16 - and is generally lovely to be around in his 20s. Strap in though because there may probably be some challenging times like picking them up when they first get drunk in the early hours…

Could you sit down and have a calm conversation with your DH about how to navigate this kind of thing going forward? He may have to step up a bit more to set stronger boundaries and learn to say no to her. Her mum might have to step up a bit more and back you guys up. And you may have to try not to be hurt and take it personally however upsetting it may feel like at the time.

Meanwhile is there any chance you could get away somewhere just for a night even to take some of the bad taste of the disastrous weekend away. One day it will probably be a funny family story!

Weedingtodo · Today 07:48

She’s 13 anyway, not 14.

Turning 14 next November does not make her ‘nearly 14’ OP.

BIossomtoes · Today 08:00

She’s 14. This kind of behaviour goes with the territory.

Wishimaywishimight · Today 08:01

She sounds like a pain in the arse and your husband a lazy drip of a man.

Stop doing so much for and why you sorted out her packing is a mystery. You are only short of tattoing 'doormat' on your forehead.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 08:03

I've been a stepmum to older kids and never ever again would I go there. I recognised everything you wrote.

the7Vabo · Today 08:12

DearDenimEagle · Today 06:53

A 14 yr old should not be behaving like a 4 yr old. Actually, I don’t know of any 4 yr olds that would behave so badly. She should have been dealt with at the packing stage ..why on earth did you pack for her? Do it right, do it now, or you aren’t coming. And every time she threw a strop. Though I would not have let her go for that particular occasion. The very idea that a 14 yr old , hell, any age, acts so entitled…so what if she didn’t get a holiday..there’s no right to trips away.

I went camping with my parents. I was 8 , they were in the tent and I was in the car. I would not have dreamt of disturbing them in the night, even though the strange surroundings kept me awake ..trying to sleep stretched on a car seat, with the rain belting on the car roof. Couldn’t even see the tent..it was on the beach. I was in the car park.
My kids came camping with us ..one was 10, the other 12. They slept in one tent, we in another. They did most of the cooking, at their request, on a gas stove or a bbq , helped put tents up and pack the car. At the time, we thought nothing of it. Reading this..well, I really think parenting has gone down the tubes. Your DH needs to get his finger out.

And I just noticed ‘Is it possible she feels like you’ve said there’s no money for things but then you’re going away?’
WTF? It’s not her business. No wonder she acts like she did if that’s considered a reasonable hypothesis. It’s none of her business, what money they have or have not and what they do with it. She didn’t earn it. She should have some autonomy , but at 14 she should also be able to behave , follow instructions and help, not hinder.
DH and her mother have failed as parents.

Packing for a camp trip inc toiletries is not an appropriate level of responsibility for a 4 year old.

The DSD is bratty but your parenting sounds too extreme the other way.

That story when you were 8 is very sad, I’d never want my 8 year old alone at night too scared go tell me. It wasn’t uncommon back in the day but we know better now.

lunar1 · Today 08:19

Why is everyone saying they should try get away again, they have a couples week away booked soon. The 13 year old doesn’t have any time away with her dad planned, her trip was cancelled, shouldn’t that have been the priority rather than a second couples trip?

nobody here looks good, but wow people think stepchildren should be grateful for being allowed to exist.

lljkk · Today 08:33

YANBU. I hope you can talk thru with your H how to not let something like this happen again. x

VickyEadie · Today 08:40

I'm confused by the situation as described (and then changed by the OP) at the campsite.

First, the tent was not (apparently) attached to the open rear of the car because the child had to make a lot of noise to get the OP and her DH to let her in with them. This (apparently) woke up everyone else on the campsite.

Then, we're told it WAS open, in fact the OP could've reached out and touched the child.

Then, there was NOBODY else at all in the field.

andana · Today 09:00

Lollylucyclark101 · Yesterday 19:33

I agree and this was my point to her. He spent 2 days not caring about the sheep and being the perfect dog until she didn’t listen and wander offs she’s not a toddler SO knew better.

I’m from a farming family in the lakes and tourists like you drive me mad. “Oh he has always had perfect recall until the time he didn’t.” You’re the adult. If she takes the dog you check she has the lead on before she goes. You lead by example and don’t let your dog off lead, ever, where they can access sheep. She went off and did it as she saw you didn’t care.

Forestgreenblue · Today 09:01

I absolutely sympathise OP. I too am a SM to a DSD of the same age. You sound very much like me - genuinely care for her and very patient but even patience has limits

A couple of years ago we went on a VERY expensive holiday abroad. DSD started the second we got in the taxi.

Evenings were catered fully around her despite there being 3 other children otherwise she would do nothing but complain or refuse to get involved. Lots on entertainment at the hotel - she refused to watch any of it. For dinner each night she would load her plate up with things we knew she didn’t like then not eat and complain she was hungry - there were loads of things she did like but she insisted she wanted to try something new. The last thing we wanted was a hungry child when we had paid so much for all inclusive - it was a really good posh all inclusive but lots of kids options too. It was definitely for attention since DP would sit with her like you would with a toddler tempting her to try to eat.

She clung to DP if we went out. If I went anywhere near DP she would rush up and physically push between us. Around 8pm each night she would claim she felt sick and we spent most nights in the room on the balcony just in case she actually was poorly - she wasn’t at all. Possibly hungry but like I said she had plenty options and all the other kids loved the food at the hotel. We had loads of snacks on room she would eat. Not how I or the rest of the kids or DP for that matter wanted to spend our holiday. She just wanted to sit on her phone and her wifi wouldn’t work anywhere else. Faked being completely fast asleep in our bed and unable to be woken several times - sleeping in our bed was where I drew the line. It felt like we were on holiday as 2 friends with our own kids. DP did nothing whilst we were there although did fully acknowledge how poor her behaviour was when we got back and spoke to her about it.

We literally almost split up over it. I never said a word to DSD about it as it’s his daughter so for him to work out. So this year I’ve laid ground rules. I simply will not tolerate it this year and he’s agreed he will speak to her there and then if this happens again

Cyberjammies · Today 09:15

Cut some slack, she’s 14, it’s a really difficult age and most are really challenging. If she had been your biological daughter, would you still be seething about this enough to write on Mumsnet?

BMW58 · Today 09:33

She was really, REALLY appalling and I hope you got an apology from her.

But your DH should have told her she couldn't come along in the first place, so he owes you an apology also.

Laiste · Today 09:35

We're still going? right

The child is 13. Seems the overnight MN crew have bumped her age up and it's stuck.

Has OP been back i've only skimmed the last few hours?

Still want to know why DD was knocking on the car door to wake her parents (in the first post) when in later posts apparently there was nothing but air between her and OP ...

Still confused by the empty but full campsite.

And the 'miles away in another field but also at the end of the campsite
' sheep.

My kids and my dogs are my responsibility. If everything's gone tits up and folks have been miserable i blame myself to be honest. I've dropped the ball.

I don't beat myself up about it but i look at what i could have done better to make me and everyone else's time better.

(I've got 4 DDs and had 2 great danes while the kids were young)

ThreadGuardDog · Today 09:40

Weedingtodo · Today 07:48

She’s 13 anyway, not 14.

Turning 14 next November does not make her ‘nearly 14’ OP.

OP didn’t say it did. From her OP she’ll be turning 14 in November. Five months is totally irrelevant to her behaviour as OP has described it.

ThreadGuardDog · Today 09:41

Cyberjammies · Today 09:15

Cut some slack, she’s 14, it’s a really difficult age and most are really challenging. If she had been your biological daughter, would you still be seething about this enough to write on Mumsnet?

Why woudn’t she be ? The behaviour is the issue, not the biology. The girl invited herself on the OP’s anniversary weekend and then behaved appallingly. Why on earth would any parent, step or not, ‘cut her some slack’ because she’s early teens ? Unless of course, they’re actively cultivating a bratty and entitled adult.

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