Neighbours fallen out with us

[Ilovewatchingthedrama]

Could I have a bit of perspective on this please?

Our neighbours of many many years installed a high pitched bird scared in their back garden. It drives us crazy and it doesn’t actually stop the pigeons going into their garden. We have asked them a couple of themes if they could turn it off or at least down. When they refused we asked if they could at least leave it off until later in the morning as DD was sleeping in the back bedroom and it was waking her up. That was also met with a refusal. So the weather got nicer again and it meant we couldn’t sit in the back garden or have the patio doors open. We tried one last time but again they refused to turn it off stating what he did in his property was up to him - if only the sound stopped at the boundary that would be fair enough. we made a noise complaint to the council. They got a letter and we got a diary sheet to fill in. One of our other neighbours spoke to them (they are also sick of the noise but not willing to do anything about it) and he told them nothing was going to change. Someone else must have made a complaint as the council guy came out to him and told him to remove it. Neighbour is now chatting shit about us and the easy going relationship we had has gone forever. I know how different noises can be perceived differently by different people but we couldn’t stand that high pitched whining.

was I unreasonable to take whatever steps necessary to allow me to use my garden ?

We have a similar garden issue with our neighbours, used to get on well, we both just blank each other now. It becomes easier/normal over time! You were totally within your right to do what you did. Stand your ground and don't feel the need to feel any guilt at all.

yanbu at all.
one of my neighbours has a cat scarer. They don’t work. But they do make a god awful noise. I’m just thankful we aren’t that near to it. I don’t blame you at all for complaining.
the only perspective is he’s a twat and you never really had an easy going relationship, only he did.

Your neighbours may be too polite to complain? Or maybe it's only the children who can hear it?

You’ve had a neighbour with antisocial behaviour most times it’s impossible to get that to stop. You managed to get him to stop the rest is just fluff. well done you

Those devices are totally antisocial and he was highly unreasonable installing it in the first place and especially for not adjusting it.

You did all you could to act with reason and he decided not to be reasonable. The issue is him so I'd give it no further thought. It's not likely he was ever going to be a bestie worth having so no great loss...

when we had our kitchen redone it was about a month of building work and I went round all the neighbors with 'thanks and sorry cards' with nice chocolates...

Tbh OP your neighbour sounds like a right cunt, to have ignored the desperate requests by multiple neighbours. I would have disturbed them if I saw them in their garden by playing really loud music (I would have pre warned nearest neighbours to make the aware it was a temporary thing)

Am awaiting karma with baited breath. Ds 17 is moving into dd's room which is next to the worst of our ndn's.
Ds and his Xbox.

We aren’t on good terms with our neighbour because they, like your neighbour, are selfish and vindictive. Putting a loud (and ineffective) device up that disturbs the peace is utterly unreasonable - as evidenced by the council’s demand to them to remove it.

You can’t “win” with people like this because even if you win you lose - they will now be petty and unpleasant. Some people only know how to be selfish and spiteful and the concept of neighbourliness is thus lost on them.

I know it’s hard, but basically… ignore them. Who cares what they think or want any more? You cared before and tried for a nice resolution but they don’t have the capacity for compromise. My life is immeasurably better since I stopped caring what my absolute psycho of a neighbour thinks or does. And if it’s unreasonable I just report report report. (I don’t use the word psycho lightly, he was standing on the boundary of our properties filming us for repairing our drains on our own land, letting his dog out at 11pm to bark for an hour every night, for weeks on end, hiding our waste bins down the street -in other people’s gardens!!… completely unhinged). Some people are just dicks.

Get a camera up front and back, a decent one.
It might give him pause if he can see clearly that he will be recorded.
Are you allowed to have flood lights that impact your neighbours gardens?

We once had a neighbour who played really loud music which we could hear inside our house with all doors and windows closed. Both detatched houses with a double garage block in between - that's how loud it was. Politely asking them to turn it down had zero effect. One day they left it on and went out. They never used to lock their door so I went in and unplugged their music centre. I called the police and told them what I had done and they said I should have put a hammer through it!!

OP - I would suggest contacting the council and saying that you believe that bats are being disorientated and disturbed by the device. Bats are legally protected unlike your ears. It’s roosting season so if you’re feeling particularly malevolent- contact https://www.bats.org.uk/our-work/national-bat-helpline

I'm not sure you had an easy going relationship to lose - be glad he doesn't want anything to do with you.

Your neighbour gave you no consideration at all.
Id be glad that easy going relationship was gone and just keep it at a distance.
Glad the horrible noise was removed.
So inconsiderate !

Was going to say this. A business near where I used to work had one and all I could hear (at the grand old age of 26) was a series of clicks. That was only if I stood directly underneath it. They did get a few complaints from people who went in with young kids.

A house opposite a train station when I worked somewhere else installed one as they were fed up of the kids hanging around/sitting on their wall etc. I think they got told to remove it though.

I don’t blame you, they are annoying and they don’t work

Sorry for derailing but how can they kick you off your own property? That sounds a really stressful situation!

It's a shame when something like this happens but there is nothing you can do about it. Do you get on with his wife? A friendly "good morning" etc to her may break the ice.

Yeah no. I don't think so. Its a nuisance. You can do plenty about it.

The neighbours sound mentally unwell

I dont think you can reason with them as this behaviour is totally unusual, about, unhinged.

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I once had a neighbour whose kid constantly kicked his ball over the fence into my garden and would then bang on my front door asking for his Ball back. Sometimes this could be 4 to 5 times a day. I actually watched him from an upstairs window deliberately kicked the ball over the fence and then come round banging on my door. I spoke with his dad and asked him if he could tell his son not to kick the ball over he just laughed and said oh kids are kids. So the next time he did it, I put my garden fork through the ball and chucked it back over the fence. Did this a couple of times and hay Presto no more ball over the fence.

If the Council.are involved. I would leave it with them to take legal action.

Your neighbour sounds like a grade one prat. Likes throwing their weight around, winding people up and thinks that there is only them in the world.

Unfortunately, this country is full.of.people like that..

Hope you get it sorted..

What a bunch of tossers they sound. Remember you cant control otger people's bad behaviour. Its such a shame tho.

She is the more reasonable one out of the pair of them and we were going to give her the benefit of the doubt but she was joining in the bad mouthing so we are not going to acknowledge her either