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To think well done to Neil Sands and Donna Sands for taking their case to get Tattle Life shut down to the court of appeal.

91 replies

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 13:06

I really admire Neil Sands and Donna Sands, they have all the money in the world and continue to fight on to make the internet a safer place. The Lady Chief Justice has seen that they have strong grounds to appeal.

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SayMyNameSayMyNames · 01/06/2026 14:25

Careful what you wish for. There is no way MN isn’t next!

Allseeingallknowing · 01/06/2026 15:18

MyMonthlyNameChange · 01/06/2026 13:40

Yes, similar sort of thing.

On the family influencer topic, Tattle has also been really good at highlighting concerns around using children to advertise. And all the obvious safeguarding concerns about putting every detail of your childrens' lives into the public domain just to flog a clothing brand or whatever.

A PP upthread mentioned the Radfords, but they fully deserve calling out in that regard as far as I'm concerned.

i’ve criticised the Radfords before, for various things, but what I don’t like are the criticisms of the appearance of the children

Snorlaxo · 01/06/2026 15:19

MN rightly deserves the CSA image debacle highlighted. If the owners are up to no good then people here would want to know as our posts and premium subscriptions keep the business going and the site relevant.

MN is discussed on other forums if you mean individual posters rather than the owners. It’s one of the few places where you can discuss women’s rights without being considered transphobic and posts are often reposted and used as rage bait.

MillicentReally · 01/06/2026 15:23

I was a bit surprised they’d appeal, given the reason they lost previously.

CarbootJunction · 01/06/2026 15:26

I have dipped in and out of Tattle Life over the years. It's great to find people who have the same opinions as you about theMcCanns, Katie Price, Jack Monroe et al,

Snorlaxo · 01/06/2026 15:28

It’s good that people are warning others about scammers. There will be people who naively send their favourite influencers money in the same way that romance scammers solicit money from their victims.
It’s also good when the public know more about behind the scenes of influencer life because there are plenty of people who view this kind of thing and feel shit about their life. If they find out that actually the famous cleaning influencer pays a cleaner and feels better that their house isn’t sparkling then that’s a good thing.

I would like to see a harder line being drawn over the use of children and kids. Not everyone is Ruby Franke but children should be paid with money kept in protected accounts or at the very least at 18, asked to sign consent for content to stay on the Internet and have the right to ask their parents to delete it. (There will be strangers on the internet with images and video but that sadly can’t be controlled)

Excited101 · 01/06/2026 15:32

Since there’s so many tattle users on here… has anyone got a code they could send me pls??

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 16:22

GloomyWednesday · 01/06/2026 13:16

Hahahahaha! The Sands are a duplicitous pair who lied through their teeth re serving court papers.

The things that were said about them on Tattle were comments about his dodgy dealings and mainly concern about her.

I suggest you do some research into it all.

You have obvs not read the ruling. It clearly states their lawyer made an honest mistake and this was a technicality. The Lady Chief Justice has seen this so allowed an appeal to fix it. She wouldn't allow an appeal unless there was clearly a mistake that needed to be fixed.

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RoseField1 · 01/06/2026 16:28

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 16:22

You have obvs not read the ruling. It clearly states their lawyer made an honest mistake and this was a technicality. The Lady Chief Justice has seen this so allowed an appeal to fix it. She wouldn't allow an appeal unless there was clearly a mistake that needed to be fixed.

No it doesn't say that at all 😄

DavidStopActingLikeADisgruntledPelican · 01/06/2026 16:32

Having lurked on some tattle threads, it doesn’t seem that bad tbh. Certainly no worse than some of the threads on here and definitely nowhere near as the behaviour of some of the people they discuss.

I will admit to being agog at the tenacity of some of the posters who manage to dig up information, read through pages of court documents etc. I don’t have the patience time for that. Fair play. And seeing the likes of dr Jessica Taylor getting called out for being an absolute clown will never not be a positive.

WheretheFishesareFrightening · 01/06/2026 16:39

I strongly believe Tattle makes the internet a safer place. Influencer culture is becoming increasingly based on lies and deception, and Tattle is the only place this gets called out (and Reddit, but to a lesser extent). Influencers and public figures should be held to account for their actions in the same way the wider world is, and Tattle provides a forum for this service. For the most part, it’s kinder than AIBU on here.

The alternative would be for people to actively message influencers and call out their behaviours to their face, but I actually think this would be a much worse position. At least this way, influencers can choose to ignore the noise on Tattle if they wanted to by just not looking at it.

icybreeze · 01/06/2026 16:39

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 16:22

You have obvs not read the ruling. It clearly states their lawyer made an honest mistake and this was a technicality. The Lady Chief Justice has seen this so allowed an appeal to fix it. She wouldn't allow an appeal unless there was clearly a mistake that needed to be fixed.

This sounds interesting. Can you share a link?

Melancholyflower · 01/06/2026 17:08

I've never heard of them - when I google them most of it is about them being the couple that sued Tattle, rather than who they actually are/what they do. It mentions her having a clothing brand (never heard of it) and him being an entrepreneur, but nothing much about them. Is it just that they post everything about their lives on Insta and come across as twats, so people hate them for that?

TotalBaloney · 01/06/2026 18:31

Melancholyflower · 01/06/2026 17:08

I've never heard of them - when I google them most of it is about them being the couple that sued Tattle, rather than who they actually are/what they do. It mentions her having a clothing brand (never heard of it) and him being an entrepreneur, but nothing much about them. Is it just that they post everything about their lives on Insta and come across as twats, so people hate them for that?

They’re nobodies, who had a really slow moving and dull thread on Tattle about their dodgy dealings. They sued Tattle but misled the court by saying they didn’t know the owner was and therefore he could not be served, when it has been proven that they did.
A judgement was ruled in their favour in his absence, but it was overturned due to their dishonestly. They have now been given leave to appeal, but of course that doesn’t mean that this case will succeed. It just means he will now be able to defend himself.

PatNoodle · 01/06/2026 18:48

The irony of talking about an internet safe space on a site that has hosted CSA images multiples times for hours, and where the owner of it encouraged users to upload nude teen photos for a ‘campaign’

TimorousOrBold · 01/06/2026 18:51

I really like Tattle.

I’ll eat my hat if they get anywhere with an appeal.

ExtraOnions · 01/06/2026 18:52

OP is obsessed with Tattle … gets thier arse handed to them whenever they start a thread. Plus they drive more traffic the way of Tattle.

Tattle exposes liars and grifters, and long may they continue.

MovedlikeHarlowinMonteCarlo · 01/06/2026 19:03

Lol this is a ridiculous thread.

Melancholyflower · 01/06/2026 19:18

TotalBaloney · 01/06/2026 18:31

They’re nobodies, who had a really slow moving and dull thread on Tattle about their dodgy dealings. They sued Tattle but misled the court by saying they didn’t know the owner was and therefore he could not be served, when it has been proven that they did.
A judgement was ruled in their favour in his absence, but it was overturned due to their dishonestly. They have now been given leave to appeal, but of course that doesn’t mean that this case will succeed. It just means he will now be able to defend himself.

I wondered what they had done, or how people knew about them, to warrant anyone wanting to start/comment on a thread about them on Tattle.

TotalBaloney · 01/06/2026 19:49

Melancholyflower · 01/06/2026 19:18

I wondered what they had done, or how people knew about them, to warrant anyone wanting to start/comment on a thread about them on Tattle.

Very little, really. She was a minor ‘influencer’ and the criticism on her thread was mainly about her dodgy business practices (selling wholesale Chinese goods with a massive markup, crap quality etc). It was a very slow moving thread with not many contributors, so I don’t think they were particularly well known before this whole debacle.

MillicentReally · 01/06/2026 20:01

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 16:22

You have obvs not read the ruling. It clearly states their lawyer made an honest mistake and this was a technicality. The Lady Chief Justice has seen this so allowed an appeal to fix it. She wouldn't allow an appeal unless there was clearly a mistake that needed to be fixed.

This thread prompted me to google and the Reddit threads have a fascinatingly different view on this.

Tableforjoan · 01/06/2026 20:15

Lauren1983 · 01/06/2026 13:24

Ha! Got to be! Either that or Donna or Neil themselves.

Could be Lauryn benefits cheat Goodman.

QueefofSheena · 01/06/2026 20:20

Tableforjoan · 01/06/2026 20:15

Could be Lauryn benefits cheat Goodman.

Crossed my mind too

Tableforjoan · 01/06/2026 20:24

QueefofSheena · 01/06/2026 20:20

Crossed my mind too

Must really piss Lauren goodger off when the two get mixed up in articles and comments 😅

TheWorthySeal · 01/06/2026 20:25

RoseField1 · 01/06/2026 16:28

No it doesn't say that at all 😄

It says it in black and white
conclude that these were honest mistakes, not intended to mislead or create any tactical advantage.
On Mr Lynch's averment this was an honest mistake, not a tactical decision

https://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/nie/cases/NIHC/KB/2026/20.html

Sands & Anor v Bond & Ors [2026] NIKB 20 (05 May 2026)

https://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=%2Fnie%2Fcases%2FNIHC%2FKB%2F2026%2F20.html

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