Matt Walsh.. but is he right about this one?

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Yes it’s Matt Walsh but I thought this was an interesting post. What do you think? I somewhat agree with him although I can think of a handful of things that will probably live and die in the 2020s (socks over leggings, hopefully).

I teach this age group. In all honesty, I’m quite glad the massive rips in baggy jeans that were in 5 or 10 years ago are less prevalent.

Every generation has people who push boundaries and people who follow the crowd, it’s just not easy to see if if you aren’t in it

I wasn’t young in the 80s, I was barely alive! My ‘era’ was early/mid 2000s. Yet I can still sort of appreciate eras I wasn’t alive in more than the ones I was later.

@fairydustt I worked in fashion buying for years, high street fashion is much more homogeneous.

Precisely. I can't help but find it amusing to read people on this thread reminiscing about the 90s of all decades! I grew up in the 90s, it was the time when I first became aware of pop music, which has remained a life-long passion and interest of mine. I still have nostalgic fondness for a lot of the 90s music I grew up with but, even donning enormous rose-tinted glasses, it's hard to look back on 90s music as a hot-bed of limitless quality and creativity. Much of the chart music of the 90s was terrible, derivative or both. Britpop, in particular, was responsible for gifting the world with a slew of boring and predictable pub rock bands, like the always appalling Oasis, Cast and Ocean Colour Scene, who made their career from recycling tired old 60s riffs but somehow managed to con the world into thinking they were at the vanguard of some exciting new music movement.
I am actually a fan of contemporary chart pop, well, mainly contemporary female artists. As I mentioned, I have followed the charts avidly since I was very young, I'm a bit of a pop music anorak, and I consider the 2020s to have been a pretty great time to be listening to the charts. Yes, there is some stuff I don't like, but such has always been the case. However, any decade which has seen my pop queen Taylor Swift, as well as other of my current favourites like Chappell Roan, Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo dominating the charts should never be written off!
I agree the tendency to romanticise the music, fashion and pop culture of our youth and to compare it favourably to contemporary trends is common to most generations. I am sure we all rolled our eyes when our parents bemoaned the things we were into as teenagers and thought them old-fashioned and out of touch. Unfortunately, we tend to forget how annoyed we were by this as we get older and find ourselves saying the exact same things to the next generation. Plus ca change.

God yes this is so true. There was good music the 90s, but so much dross we have forgotten. DH and I put Asolute 90s on in the car the other day and had to turn it off after 10 minutes because it was all just turgid dadrock.

Fashion wise they recycle the same things we’ve done. Even advertising agencies haven’t got the zing they had before. I’m “in it” because of my DC, I see it and see them, I see their circles and everyone is represented, but they’re an identikit version of what’s gone before.

But you'll have heard that music as a child/teen

But then I was a teen in the 90s, and we wore 60s fashions with a slight 90s reimagining (look at “groove is in the heart” video for the sort of thing), then as we turned to 2000, suddenly there was a 70s revival - fashion and music. Borrowing from the past big trends has always been a thing. (the 80s had a lot of 50’s references)

I have been to a 90s party and it was easy to identify the clothes/hair/music. Same for a 70s party (extremely easy).

What would you wear for a 2010s party?

Im not totally disagreeing with you but I just think you can say that about every generation or era.
You've just got to find your joy. I remember Richard Bacon doing a feature on the radio saying a song from when you were 16 is how advertisers target you and I absolutely get that randomly with I think we're alone now by Tiffany. Your brain just remembers certain things which make you happy or sad etc..
In 1994 when my brother was getting married they were so excited saying the DJ was going to play loads of 80s music by then after being a teen in the 80s I was like argh I can't stand 80s music. It's took me so long to listen to it again. There are things that you loved in every era and we forget the horrible stuff. My childhood was pretty miserable in the 70s and 80s I don't look back with nostalgia. Some of the 90s were ok, noughts ok 2010s pretty good 2020s just not nice politically imo so I'm not enjoying it but I'm not thinking oh it was so good in the 80s no it was bloody awful for some. I loved Oasis saw them a few times. Seen Liam and Noel a lot separately since but I did not go to the reunion. Just couldn't be bothered after all their back biting and all that money but I did loads of theatre stuff last year which I wouldn't have had the chance to do in the 90s. Obviously many loved it but I've moved on.
My grandad was always stuck in the past I don't think he knew
anything about The Beatles but my gran loved all music she just listened to the radio all her life moving with the times.
My grandkids think I'm ancient at 54 and been here forever cos I don't keep up with the trends but I have friends who are still bringing their own teens up and they may be more in the loop.

Yes, I am aware of what my kids like and that's the point I make. The trends are exactly the same for them now as they were for me 30 years ago.

People saying that styles haven't evolved since the 2010s probably don't remember what was fashionable back then. Do you remember the crazy, full faces of makeup that teens would wear with tonnes of contouring and thick eyebrows? There were so many teens trying to emulate Kylie Jenner. Now the style is far more 'clean girl' and more natural.

The Hollister "look" is far more common now than was then with the floaty vest tops etc. This is a bit of a rehash from the early noughties but we wore it with skinny jeans whereas it's now it is worn far more casually with baggy jeans.

When a style is in 'fashion' it is often just seen as the norm and people don't realise how stylised it is. For example, I see women going around with pattern matching co-ord sets that are generally considered trendy right now but people would have literally laughed at some of these looks 5 years ago. Some look very much like pyjamas and are very much of their time. It's like with interiors design and other trends. We convince ourself that the current trend is 'timeless' as we panel our walls or colour drench our walls. Inevitably times move on and these things will be seen as distinctly of their time (mid 2020s) in the same way we can date all grey looks. It's just how it is and how it will always be.

High rise super skinny jeans, ballet flats, peplum top, massive slug brows.

Or short jersey dress/tunic worn with leggings, no socks to be seen - “statement necklace”

My theory is because we are older, many of us have things in our wardrobe that are 10 years old, so we don’t see them as dated. At the time, we might not have been buying exactly what was on trend, weren’t doing the full contour face thing and slug brows.

Any skirt that sits on the knee has looked dated to me, since about 2019 everything has been midi or bum skimming. Knee length just doesn’t happen now.

A lot of this would be the 00s for me not the 10s

I think the 10s was more the festival fashion thing with crop vests, denim shorts, boots & flower crowns etc & dad trainers

@footbeds- dc1 was born at the end of 2009, this was basically what every single mum was wearing on my mat leave year of 2010- the fashionable ones had the slug brows!

The overlined lips and slug brows were definitely still around in 2015. That was prime King Kylie era. The lip kits sold out and lots of teens wanted that look. I think that's very distinctive to that era in the same way that perms and quiffs evoke other eras.

Hrtft yet but

Dua Lipa looks fantastic at her wedding!

But the style made me think of this thread - they wouldnt look out of place in the 90s, is that an example of what this guy was saying?

The slug brows weren’t that popular in my area, I definitely wasn’t wearing tunics with leggings into 2010, lived in that style in the earlier years though.

I think I was doing the trophy jacket thing then & boyfriend jeans were definitely a thing because we were selling loads.

But people were definitely doing the loud gym leggings thing from Sweaty Betty but worn of not going to the gym.

Yes I think by the mid 2010’s we had reached peak slug brows and generally drag queen makeup.

KPop
Baggy jeans and tiny tops
Fillers and botox
Andrew Tate and manosphere
influencers
AI

Blur? The lead singer Damon was only 12 at the end of the 70’s!

I remember in the 2010s DD who was born in 1997 loving Jack Wills clothes. She had quite a lot of Pretty Green and Clark's Desert Boots. We used to love a trip to Cath Kidston and Paper chase. We went to lots of festivals and Thomas Sabo she collected that and a bit of the other stuff I can't remember what it's called. She'd listen to Radio 6 music and had a Kindle and an iPad. I think she still loved had her ipod Nano. Awwww happy memories.

Sorry I meant pulp!