Allow a play date where mum unapologetically supports children’s education tax

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Just this really, our local independent prep school closed due to the education tax earlier this year and has caused absolute chaos for lots of families, including my own. My dd (6) has been invited for a play date with a girl she seems very friendly with and who seems very sweet, but I’ve since found out from another parent that the mum is an ‘unapologetic education taxer’. My instinct is to cancel the play date, AIBU?

Education isn't a luxury. Private schools are a luxury. You're mostly paying for nicer buildings, better facilities and smaller classes/more individual attention.

The choice is not between education vs no education.

This 😂

Wondering whether to share with the OP the fabulous news that, far from being taxed, education is available for free from the state.

Millions of people mortgages were hiked, people had to get on with it. I downsized because I realised I needed to live within my means.

I feel for you that you can longer send your DD to private school but your attitude stinks. To be honest, I think it might be the other mum cancelling the play date at this rate.

Make it make sense.
You start OP as we all can't wait to read any sense in your nonsensical posts. * *

Poor OP striving to get to the middle classes… remember the quote "Just remember, you can't climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets." Also if you can’t afford private school maybe your kid shouldn’t be there.

The mere suggested that DD would have to mix with the great unwashed will have her clutching her pearls.

I genuinely am aghast at how many people on this planet are so entitled.

As I have quoted twice now, from the very VAT notice you linked...

If the education is being provided for no charge (for example, local authority maintained schools, city technology colleges, sixth form colleges, academies and free schools, see paragraph 3.2). The VAT consequences are that this is not ‘in business’ for VAT purposes (see section 3) and:

There is no VAT on education.

There is VAT on businesses charging for services.

The OP is aware that there is a tax payer funded option, I am state educated and my two children are at state school. Up until 2025 your children and mine also had the option of tax free non tax payer funded education.

There’s no fairness or equality in private education 😂

The only way that would work is if every child went to private school FFS.

YOUR DAUGHTER IS NOT ENTITLED TO MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

I agree
The worry for OP though it that she doesn’t really know this person it seems

Would you leave your child with someone you didn’t know if you’ve already been warned about stuff
any stuff that is

I think I’d wait.

@TiredMagpie i literally had a parent explaining to me that this is why he sent his kids to private school - so they didn’t have to mix with the hoi polloi. Nothing to do with education at all. It’s a disgusting attitude.

Genuinely, why do you not think schools, aka businesses, raking in millions which they then invest in facilities to attract more money and increase value of their property, should not have to pay VAT like every other business in the UK?

How much would a 20% the tax be on a service that charges £0? There is no education tax on tax payer funded education. How would that even work? I’m not saying Labour won’t do it but it doesn’t make sense.

Its there in the link, its a tax on children’s education and vocational training services, This seems a very strange argument to have seen as you can literally read the notice in black and white. It’s very clear. The ‘business’ is not paying the tax.

Yes but that service provided is tuition
Tuition is education

other stuff is exempt from the tax. All that other stuff is not tuition.

Now if it was a tax on the other stuff not related to tuition in private schools
then yes. It’s not a tax on education but actually it’s the other way round

Children’s education is not a luxury. It’s a right and it’s funded for all out of general taxation.

Private school is a premium product and as such attracts VAT as a luxury good.

You are right it is not a luxury, in fact it’s mandated by law.

Is it the fact that it’s not the tax payer funding it that dictates whether you consider children’s education a luxury or not?

Nobody really will admit it, but avoiding bad parenting is the main advantage of going independent.

Which would be fine if all luxuries were taxed.

But they aren’t

Needless to say removing 7% of children from the cost of tax payers funding their education is also a benefit to all
But tbh
this isn't a thread about the tax
We had plenty of those at the time

I think that will be wasted on her, as I’m not sure she’d understand!

What now? Patenting? 🤨

This is obviously a joke!

Ah yes, because people who can afford to pay for their kids education are never going to be unpleasant humans are they?

Mine have attended two Indis and I assure you that’s no guarantee at all

What???