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Nicola Sturgeon didn't know her husband stole £400,000

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Imdunfer · 25/05/2026 21:03

Really? She lived with this guy and didn't know? She had a camper van parked on the drive and didn't know he stole the money to buy it?

I don't buy it.

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Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:05

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 13:03

'Cleared' is normally a term reserved for someone who's gone through a trial and been found Not Guilty. That's not what's happened here. It may be that the police found not a scintilla of evidence against NS and she is blameless, if utterly clueless and a poor judge of character. It may also be that they were getting absolutely nowhere as she answered 'No comment' to every question and as they had PM bang to rights they decided to settle for getting him locked up. Two rather different set ups.

So do you think that when there is no evidence that a person has done anything wrong we should have a trial anyway, just to clear up any misconception that the police were wrong in arresting them?

How do you know she answered "no comment"? Were you one of the officers who questioned her?

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:07

dapsnotplimsolls · Yesterday 13:04

Poor, poor Nicola - what a quandary:

a) Admit she did know
b) Admit she spent so little time in the house that she didn't notice all the stuff
c) Admit that she spent some time in the house but didn't notice all the stuff so he must have given it all to friends/family

I do wonder if the campervan was intended as a wee love nest for Murrell and whoever but Covid scuppered the plans.

Do you think an FM should spend their limited time at home looking for things that their partner bought?

A love nest? Who would think that?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 14:08

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:05

So do you think that when there is no evidence that a person has done anything wrong we should have a trial anyway, just to clear up any misconception that the police were wrong in arresting them?

How do you know she answered "no comment"? Were you one of the officers who questioned her?

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/asked-nicola-sturgeons-no-comment-37206581

A source close to the investigation told the Scottish Sun that she "sat in silence for hours" leaving cops "frustrated". Another source said: "The brass neck on her is incredible. She gave a no-comment interview and hindered police while saying publicly she was cooperating with them."

Asked about Sturgeon's 'no comment' interview, John Swinney says 'No comment'

You couldn't make it up! Despite promising to 'co-operate fully', 'Non-Stick Nic' elected to 'sit in silence' during a seven-hour police interview

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/asked-nicola-sturgeons-no-comment-37206581

RealFeminist · Yesterday 14:09

JustAnotherWhinger · Yesterday 13:25

Not only were they high earners, but we know politicians get gifted all sorts. And also get discounts on things normal folks wouldn’t.

If my DH came home with Lalique salt and pepper grinders and said they were a gift I’d ask a mountain of questions. If a political figure comes home with them I doubt their spouse would raise an eyebrow.

AH THINK GRINDRS A BIT TACKY PERSONALLY

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:13

Gymnopedie · Yesterday 13:06

Yes, she was cleared by the police so there was no trial. But my point stands - you can't prove what someone did or didn't know unless there's a paper trail.

Well she wasn't actually cleared by the police. She was interviewed by the police and then they let her go home.

The only person who could decide whether a trial was necessary would be the PF. So either the police didn't have enough evidence to send, or there was zero evidence to send. The police don't "clear" anyone. They either charge them or they don't have sufficient evidence to do so.

In this case there was obviously no evidence to send to the PF.

So they let her go home.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:18

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 13:11

You can't seriously be attempting to say there's nothing at all dodgy about what's been going on with the SNP finances? Really?

If anything remotely comparable to this had been happening in another UK political party, SNP supporters would be all over it.

Let's have a bit of objectivity. Incompetence, dishonesty and corruption don't become excusable just because the person/people behind them want Scottish independence.

Don't put words in my mouth please. All I am saying is that people posting about this have no grasp of the reality. I was correcting the assumption that the people who left the F&A Committee had a clue what they were talking about. They didn't. They werent paid professionals. They were just members who had been elected to the NEC and asked to go on that particular committee. With zero experience.

Lins77 · Yesterday 14:24

I'm no fan of her or the SNP. I'm not convinced Nicola herself is actively corrupt, but I definitely think she's guilty of turning a blind eye. In any case, a situation where a party leader and party chairman are a married couple, should never happen - a recipe for disaster. SNP under the Murrell-Sturgeons was by all accounts far too much of a closed shop, where inconvenient truths were brushed under the carpet.

GasPanic · Yesterday 14:39

I was never that much of a fan of her politics but she did strike me as being very competent (at least at first). Salmond I also rated as a great politician.

Then of course in later years it has all gone t*ts up for her.

If I was one of the SNP faithful I would be absolutely furious. How are they going to raise money again after this ?

I think that there will always be a place for the SNP in Scotland as many Scots see it as being the best way of getting a good deal from Westminster. But to vote for them at a referendum after stuff like this ?

RealFeminist · Yesterday 14:56

AT LEAST SOME WIMMAN ARE STICKIN UP FUR ME

Nicola Sturgeon didn't know her husband stole £400,000
RealFeminist · Yesterday 14:59

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:18

Don't put words in my mouth please. All I am saying is that people posting about this have no grasp of the reality. I was correcting the assumption that the people who left the F&A Committee had a clue what they were talking about. They didn't. They werent paid professionals. They were just members who had been elected to the NEC and asked to go on that particular committee. With zero experience.

EXACTLY WHICH IS FOR WHY THEY HADNAE A F&A CLUE WHIT WIS GOING ON

Tryingtokeepgoing · Yesterday 15:01

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 12:59

There wasn't a triaL as she was CLEARED OF ANY CHARGES.

Not being charged is not the same as being cleared of any charges by a long shot. It just means they had insufficient evidence to press charges. And in part that is probably because NS, as was her right, refused to answer any questions put to her by the police, despite saying she'd cooperate fully. Now, in these sorts of cases I am sure saying nothing is the right approach if you want to avoid being charged...

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 15:05

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:18

Don't put words in my mouth please. All I am saying is that people posting about this have no grasp of the reality. I was correcting the assumption that the people who left the F&A Committee had a clue what they were talking about. They didn't. They werent paid professionals. They were just members who had been elected to the NEC and asked to go on that particular committee. With zero experience.

I was correcting the assumption that the people who left the F&A Committee had a clue what they were talking about. They didn't. They werent paid professionals.

Apparently they did know what they were talking about because they correctly identified that there was something wrong with the accounts.

However, Governance of any organisation usually involves appointing people who aren't paid professionals, whether they are trustees of a charity or non executive directors.

Are you really arguing that they should just be ignored because they aren't paid professionals? If so what is the point of appointing them?

ThreeWordHarpy · Yesterday 15:05

Id classify DH and I as “high earners” as our combined income is six figures. Even so, if he suddenly started buying stuff worth 3k per month every month for years on end, I would be asking questions. A one off purchase of something expensive can be explained by a bonus from work, but that level of spending every month? Come on.

And that before you get to the situation where two married people are in such important positions in the party. I met DH at work and we declared our relationship to our bosses as soon as we realised it was serious, even though we were in different teams. We weren’t just totally above board, we wanted to ensure we were seen to be above board. It boggles my mind that the SNP was happy with a situation that most employers would not tolerate for a minute.

FaceIt · Yesterday 15:06

Of course she knew, she was a very intelligent tactical politician and she’ll front it out forever more and put her own spin on it. It’s what she’s good at.

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 15:10

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 13:01

Yes, as they were downsizing. They got new ones who approved the accounts. Plus that was a completely different year. The year the three MEMBERS left the accounts were approved by the extrnal auditor.

Edited

Yeah right.

Professional auditors don't suddenly leave their clients in the lurch for no reason.

The SNP had to rush to find different auditors so that they could submit their accounts on time, and then they were only able to submit qualified accounts.

When an accountant suspects that their client is guilty of an offence, it is normal for them to resign. They don't make the reason public because they have a duty of confidentiality.

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 15:15

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 12:59

There wasn't a triaL as she was CLEARED OF ANY CHARGES.

No charges were made because the police didn't have enough evidence to make a criminal prosecution.

The police cannot clear anyone. They can only submit a case to the COPFS.

C8H10N4O2 · Yesterday 15:16

GooseCreekandtheRiver · 25/05/2026 22:39

Yeah, I’d agree with this. Also, it wasn’t £400k stashed, it was £400k spent, and the majority of that on the car and motor home. So £200k spent over 10ish years. About £1,500 per month.

I have read plenty of MN threads where a DH (or an OP) has racked up e.g. £15-20k of credit card debt within a year, without the spouse noticing the goods the money has been spent on.

Edited

You wouldn’t notice a jag or a 100k camper rocking up at your’s or your MiL’s home (where MiL doesn’t have that kind of spare cash)?

If you hadn’t noticed then wouldn’t the questions from SNP MSPs in parliament regarding the missing money make you look just a bit closer at massive expenditure of this type?

Bearing in mind you know your husband has always worked in the public sector and his current job is chair of your political party on a published salary?

MSPs asking about the money were basically told by Sturgeon to STFU and subject to torrents of abuse by the Sturgeonati.

EstherGreenwood63 · Yesterday 15:24

RealFeminist · Yesterday 14:56

AT LEAST SOME WIMMAN ARE STICKIN UP FUR ME

Need the laugh emoji back for this one. 😂

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 15:26

JustAnotherWhinger · Yesterday 14:02

They are supposed to, but we know they don’t always.

I don’t think NS was unaware of everything because I think the lack of genuine surprise in them all when Murrell was arrested says a lot. Also the fact nobody said anything at all until after Wings started asking questions, then people started protecting themselves by asking public questions is telling.

However, I don’t think the odd expensive items are the gotcha against NS people think they are. With their income and their lifestyles they’re easily explained.

I think it’s far more likely that there was a common habit within the SNP of using party funds for themselves. The fact that Murrell seemingly went unnoticed for at least 12 years, and the fact that Natalie McGarry’s pilfering went unnoticed by the SNP until WFI flagged her, suggests that the overseeing of finances was either non-existent or extremely poor.

Even if the camper van had been bought for party use, nobody seems to have cared that such an expensive asset wasn't being used.

I'm also confused about the cars.

It's quite difficult to justify buying a car through a company without raising questions about tax. What was supposed to be their purpose? Were they not noticed because the organisation was a political party so less likely to be on HMRC's radar?

INeedAPensieve · Yesterday 15:31

RealFeminist · Yesterday 14:56

AT LEAST SOME WIMMAN ARE STICKIN UP FUR ME

Haha @RealFeminist you're on fire today hen! 🤣

Newname26 · Yesterday 15:43

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 10:59

Nana Murrell’s neighbours must have been thrilled to see the back of it.

I think She herself was probably glad to see the back of it.
Who wants that plonked on the drive, taking up space?

Newname26 · Yesterday 15:44

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 15:26

Even if the camper van had been bought for party use, nobody seems to have cared that such an expensive asset wasn't being used.

I'm also confused about the cars.

It's quite difficult to justify buying a car through a company without raising questions about tax. What was supposed to be their purpose? Were they not noticed because the organisation was a political party so less likely to be on HMRC's radar?

More questions than answers!!

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 15:44

INeedAPensieve · Yesterday 15:31

Haha @RealFeminist you're on fire today hen! 🤣

Agreed. So happy to see you here, Nic.

Newname26 · Yesterday 15:47

Anyone else think they started small, the odd transaction on the SNP card, just little things here there before they started going for the bigger things, like the coffee machines and the motor home?

Anyone else struggling to picture either of them actually sleeping in the motor home?
Or even better emptying the waste?

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 15:48

Newname26 · Yesterday 15:43

I think She herself was probably glad to see the back of it.
Who wants that plonked on the drive, taking up space?

The thing is, though, I reckon that NS has outed herself as a MN reader as it is the most genius excuse ever for getting away with daylight robbery. Park the luxury motor home on your MIL’s drive because everyone here is either NC or low contact with their MIL.