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Judge lets three boy rapist go free with no jail time

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ThreadGuardDog · 24/05/2026 11:38

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/24/uk-judge-decision-rape-girls-hampshire

The judge said he wanted to avoid the boys attracting a criminal record so early in life. Is it so unreasonable to think that they should have thought of that before they committed the crime ? Rape/sexual assault, is up 10% according to national statistics. With sentences like these, reflecting the clear misogyny within the judiciary , is it any wonder ?

Thoughts ?

UK judge’s decision not to jail boys for rape like a ‘rock in my face’, says victim, 16

Boys, aged 15, given youth rehabilitation orders for two separate attacks against two girls in Hampshire

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/24/uk-judge-decision-rape-girls-hampshire

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Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:34

FinchiePink · 24/05/2026 13:25

There are lots of aggravating factors. The group element, the recording, the posting to social media, the pre-meditated nature.

There are also mitigating factors that were taken into account in sentencing. There are at least two (that we know of, there may be more) - their young ages at the time of the offences, and that at least two of them have some form of learning disability or special needs.

I don't disagree that the sentencing guidelines need to be reviewed, personally I think they do. Even if they are though, the new rules will not be retrospectively applied to this case.

They might have a learning difficulty but they have enough ability to plan , carry out and share a gang rape.

It feels close to minimising the brutality or excusing it.

MabelAnderson · 24/05/2026 13:37

I posted on the other thread, re a gang rape by similarly aged boys in the mid 90s. They got hefty sentences, the leader a ten year sentence.
They had raped an adult tourist, taking her down onto the canal towpath in King’s Cross. She hadn’t been afraid of them as they were so young.

Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:37

Rockgrin · 24/05/2026 13:33

There needs to be consequences for a judge clearly displaying bias like this.

Exactly why a judge would have a bias for raping bastards also needs looking into.

They need all their previous sentencing reviewed. There needs to be a Cochrane for judge decisions - pull and map the meta data across time.

Is this a one off (bad enough) or does this judge have form for siding with perpetrators.

anotheruser124 · 24/05/2026 13:38

I wonder if what we need is a petition to ask that rape sentencing guidelines change? They can only impose such sentences because it falls within the guidelines so maybe that is what needs changing.

anotheruser124 · 24/05/2026 13:38

Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:37

They need all their previous sentencing reviewed. There needs to be a Cochrane for judge decisions - pull and map the meta data across time.

Is this a one off (bad enough) or does this judge have form for siding with perpetrators.

Would be interesting to see their previous sentences for sure

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 24/05/2026 13:39

very likely they’ll be outed and their comeuppance dished out.

FinchiePink · 24/05/2026 13:39

Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:34

They might have a learning difficulty but they have enough ability to plan , carry out and share a gang rape.

It feels close to minimising the brutality or excusing it.

Yes, and that's why the aggravating factors are taken into account.

Again: the judge cannot go off-piste and hand down a sentence on a whim.

The sentencing guidelines determine what a judge can and cannot do.

The judge must act within those guidelines, taking into account the offence, the aggravating and the mitigating factors.

The sentence is now being reviewed by the AG. But if it is determined that the judge in this case did take proper care and applied the law correctly and was not unduly lenient ("unduly" meaning that it falls outside the range of sentences that could reasonably be considered appropriate in law, it does not merely mean lenient), then there will be no change.

Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:39

Am I right in thinking if it gets 100,000 signatures it needs a parliamentary debate?

FinchiePink · 24/05/2026 13:40

anotheruser124 · 24/05/2026 13:38

I wonder if what we need is a petition to ask that rape sentencing guidelines change? They can only impose such sentences because it falls within the guidelines so maybe that is what needs changing.

This would be a more effective way to approach the situation. I'd fully back a campaign to review and amend the sentencing guidelines for sexual offences.

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 24/05/2026 14:39

fantam · 24/05/2026 11:48

I think there should be female only judges for male to female rape. Male judges can hear male/male rape cases. The male judges in female rape cases just do not have the life experience of women in such cases. Just my 2c.

Of course there are no guarantees that a female judge would be better as such, but there is more of a chance that she would empathise and understand more than a male judge would. IMO.

Slippery slope there.

We had a long period of advocating for female judges on the basis that they were not all emotional and would be just as competent and dispassionate as any existing judge.

You're arguing that judges own lived experiences and biases should come into judgements and sentences, and that the law is not therefore equal.

What next, female judges for DV as well?

What about divorce courts?
Or custody hearings?

And what would you say when someone appeals on the basis that the judge was deliberately selected to be biased against men.

Ps. I don't understand the sentencing decision at all ...

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 24/05/2026 14:48

Quine0nline · 24/05/2026 12:42

Is there a crowd of "patriots", defenders to "protect our women and girls" gathering? No, I didn't think so.

I may be wrong but I think that was one of the strands of the recent "reclaim the nation" (or whatever its called) marches (though only from certain religions no doubt). Not so much as a peep from the keffiyah brigade.

Changing topic, I think their low IQ was mentioned as a mitigating factor. I'm not sure how being too thick to realise rape is a heinous crime should make you immune to punishment. Personally i'd have thought that was an extra argument for keeping them out of the way of decent people.

FernandoSor · 24/05/2026 14:51

ThreadGuardDog · 24/05/2026 13:24

Yes. Unalived and rape are words not permitted in the wonderful world of YouTube. The words are killed, murdered, raped. Censoring free speech in this way is adding to the problem.

But this isn’t YouTube? Sorry very confused.

Badbadbunny · 24/05/2026 14:51

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 24/05/2026 13:39

very likely they’ll be outed and their comeuppance dished out.

Nope, they'll be protected by their "community".

TheGreatDownandOut · 24/05/2026 14:52

Fucking RAGING about this. We live in a world where people can go to prison for posting things on social media but not for actually raping women. Wow.

Lahsania · 24/05/2026 14:54

anotheruser124 · 24/05/2026 13:38

I wonder if what we need is a petition to ask that rape sentencing guidelines change? They can only impose such sentences because it falls within the guidelines so maybe that is what needs changing.

I think a petition is needed, surely there is one?! Nobody decent or with a modicum of sanity will be agreeing with this sentence!

FernandoSor · 24/05/2026 14:55

Thiswasanescapeplan · 24/05/2026 13:39

Am I right in thinking if it gets 100,000 signatures it needs a parliamentary debate?

That’s the government petitions site. White parliament might debate sentencing guidelines in general they won’t debate a specific sentence as that would be stepping on the independence of the judiciary.

redhatpurplehair · 24/05/2026 14:58

He described them as ‘very young children’.

‘very young children’ are incapable of rape. They will have gone through puberty. they will have had lessons in school about sexual behaviour. He didn’t want to ‘criminalise’ them. But they are criminals!

along with a sentence review the judge should get retraining. I wonder what his wife/daughter/female acquaintances said when they heard. If that was my husband I would rip him a new one.

Melonmango70 · 24/05/2026 14:58

I feel that my hours of mindless Mumsnetting finally became worthwhile when someone posted about this a few days ago and said that we (ie, anyone) could ask for a review of this case as "unduly lenient". I think it has gained traction since then. I certainly put forward a request to have this reviewed and I know lots of other people have. I didn't even know that was a "thing", to be honest. Nicholas Rowland is a disgusting human being, based on this case. I sincerely hope he doesn't have daughters. Or sons. I wouldn't want to be him right now. I wouldn't want to be associated with him in any way.

Canoodler · 24/05/2026 14:59

I think judges need to be made aware that the sentence is not just about rehabilitating the offenders ... it is about deterring others.

There has to be a really strong deterrent for rape. If this lenient sentence stands, there will be a lot more teenage rapists, that is for sure.

Sad to say, but footage of the real life gang rape of a teenage girl is pornographic gold. If teenagers are not going to be severely punished for it, I can imagine them being groomed into doing it by organised criminals. Just as they are groomed into the drugs trade for similar reasons. Get a grip, judiciary, please.

FernandoSor · 24/05/2026 15:01

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 24/05/2026 13:39

very likely they’ll be outed and their comeuppance dished out.

They will be protected by their community. Noone would be daft enough to take them on.

Melonmango70 · 24/05/2026 15:01

Lahsania · 24/05/2026 14:54

I think a petition is needed, surely there is one?! Nobody decent or with a modicum of sanity will be agreeing with this sentence!

We can all ask for this case to be reviewed as "unduly lenient". I learned this here a few days ago. You can do so at Gov.uk. It asks for the defendants names and I copied and pasted a link to the case in that box. I think this case will be reviewed, but we definitely need to do all we can to ensure it is.

ThreadGuardDog · 24/05/2026 15:06

FinchiePink · 24/05/2026 13:25

There are lots of aggravating factors. The group element, the recording, the posting to social media, the pre-meditated nature.

There are also mitigating factors that were taken into account in sentencing. There are at least two (that we know of, there may be more) - their young ages at the time of the offences, and that at least two of them have some form of learning disability or special needs.

I don't disagree that the sentencing guidelines need to be reviewed, personally I think they do. Even if they are though, the new rules will not be retrospectively applied to this case.

They were old enough to know what they were doing. That should be enough. Learning disabilities or not, if you’re capable of the disgusting acts these boys committed, then you’re capable of accepting responsibility and punishment. I agree that reviewing the sentencing guidelines won’t be of any use in this case but something needs to be done to stop this happening again.

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ThreadGuardDog · 24/05/2026 15:07

redhatpurplehair · 24/05/2026 14:58

He described them as ‘very young children’.

‘very young children’ are incapable of rape. They will have gone through puberty. they will have had lessons in school about sexual behaviour. He didn’t want to ‘criminalise’ them. But they are criminals!

along with a sentence review the judge should get retraining. I wonder what his wife/daughter/female acquaintances said when they heard. If that was my husband I would rip him a new one.

If he was my husband the marriage would be over.

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Melonmango70 · 24/05/2026 15:10

Melonmango70 · 24/05/2026 15:01

We can all ask for this case to be reviewed as "unduly lenient". I learned this here a few days ago. You can do so at Gov.uk. It asks for the defendants names and I copied and pasted a link to the case in that box. I think this case will be reviewed, but we definitely need to do all we can to ensure it is.

Someone upthread has mentioned that as this case is now being reviewed, there is no need for anyone to apply for the review, which is good news. From the gov.uk website:
We are already considering applications to have the sentences in the following case reviewed:

  • Three unnamed offenders aged 15, 15, and 14, sentenced on 21st May 2026 in Southampton Crown Court for sexual offences including rape.
Unless you have a personal connection to the case, there’s no need to make another application for one of these cases – it will not affect how the review is handled. But we still want to hear from you if you are the victim of the offence, or an immediate family member, and want to make a personal application.
Lahsania · 24/05/2026 15:15

What is judgement for, these days? Just to sigh over mitigating circumstances? What about creating deterrents so that mitigating circumstances can be overcome. Wtaf, so so so so tired about the huge fear of giving consequences for criminality.