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Another baby has died in a hot car (Spain)

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comoatoupeira · 21/05/2026 12:39

Another child has died in a horrific way after being accidentally left in a hot car.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/21/girl-dies-car-extreme-heat-spain

again, it was the father, distracted by work, who forgot to drop her off at nursery. I honesty don’t think this is a man/woman thing I think it is a work thing. In every one of this abominable stories it is someone being distracted by a work situation and they forget they haven’t dropped off the child. The article explains really well why it happens and how we need to make safeguards because we can’t rely on ourselves at all times.

distraction kills! Much more than malevolent intent.

AIBU to think that every single parent needs to read this article to realise it can happen to anyone and sometimes extreme stress and the power of habit can overcome us and cause the worst to happen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/fatal-distraction-forgetting-a-child-in-thebackseat-of-a-car-is-a-horrifying-mistake-is-it-a-crime/2014/06/16/8ae0fe3a-f580-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html

BE WARNED it is the most upsetting piece of writing I have ever read.

Girl, two, dies after being left in car as extreme heat sweeps Spain

Authorities in Galicia declare two days of mourning after toddler died during exceptionally high May temperatures

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/21/girl-dies-car-extreme-heat-spain

OP posts:
Needspaceforlego · 21/05/2026 23:57

PeloMom · 21/05/2026 23:06

My car sends me notification if there is something heavy on any of the seats (even if I’ve left say shopping and gone in quickly to another shop). The other day my kid left his window open (I didn’t notice) and I got notification when we were 5 meters away.

How does it tell the difference between a empty child's seat and an occupied child's car seat?

Alateone · Yesterday 05:55

Needspaceforlego · 21/05/2026 23:57

How does it tell the difference between a empty child's seat and an occupied child's car seat?

Weight

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:24

Alateone · Yesterday 05:55

Weight

So the weight of the child seat doesn’t trigger it? Just the additional weight of the child?

Alateone · Yesterday 06:26

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:24

So the weight of the child seat doesn’t trigger it? Just the additional weight of the child?

Don’t know
but presumably a setting that can be adjusted to confirm the usual weight of the seat. It would be a crap system if couldn’t adjust for a car seat. The op would be constantly receiving notifications

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:40

CtrlCctrlVForTheRestOfMyLife · 21/05/2026 21:21

As I said I am quite severely sleep deprived and I still have a long to do list for tonight so I'll try and be brief so I can do the one thing that might help reduce the risk of making careless fatal mistakes. Get some sleep.

It doesn't matter if they are charged with neglect and man slaughter. It wouldn't act as a deterrent as surely there are few consequences more severe than your child dying. Dying horribly. Because of something you did. Nothing really matters after the fact does it? It won't bring their babies back and it is highly unlikely to stop other babies from dying in this way.

. I don't think the point of the article is to minimise blame or to say it's ok that parents make fatal mistakes. I think it's to remind us that we are fallible and we all make mistakes and we need to be aware of that because otherwise why would you even try to avoid them

Maybe I'm biased because I know I forget stuff so I don't feel like this could never happen to me.

So yeah. I need sleep.

You’re not biased and yes of course the worst punishment is the loss of a child and something you caused.

Saying parents/people would say “whoopsie we all
forget things” is unbelievably cruel.

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:41

Alateone · Yesterday 06:26

Don’t know
but presumably a setting that can be adjusted to confirm the usual weight of the seat. It would be a crap system if couldn’t adjust for a car seat. The op would be constantly receiving notifications

I think people are saying their cats do just that, they say “check back seats” everytime they get out of the car, so it’s ineffective.

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:45

Witchonenowbob · Yesterday 06:41

I think people are saying their cats do just that, they say “check back seats” everytime they get out of the car, so it’s ineffective.

Cars, not cats!

Gloriia · Yesterday 06:52

'I really, really hope that when misfortune happens to you the people in your life show more humanity than you are showing on this issue'

Misfortune?! Forgetting my kids and leaving them alone for hours is not misfortune.

I'll ask again, if a parent 'forgot' their child was in the house went to work and the house burnt down would his too be 'misfortune' or not abject neglect?

We have a responsibility to care for our dc, yes it's tragic but my sympathy lies with the dc and the other parent who thought their dc was in safe hands. All the excusing about different routines then conversely autopilot does not explain it.

We should not need beeping seats to remind us we are responsible for the safety of a dc.

ProfessionalPirate · Yesterday 07:40

Namingbaba · 21/05/2026 20:12

Isn’t one of the features of having a fallible human brain that you’re not 100% on the ball all the time?

What does on the ball even mean in this context? If by on the ball you mean engaged and interested in my child when they are in my care then yes, I am 100% on the ball. Are there periods of time where you have the sole care and the company of your child but you ignore them completely and don’t give them a second thought? These people have the entire day while their child is at nursery to focus completely on their work. Until then, their child should be their primary concern.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 07:45

TrixieFatell · 21/05/2026 21:48

I forgot my baby once. I feel sick even typing that. They were a few days old, fast asleep in the moses basket. I was getting their older siblings ready for nursery like I normally would, I got them dressed, put their shoes on and we went out to the car. We drive to nursery and we're almost there when I suddenly thought to myself "where's my baby". I spun the car round and dashed home where thankfully I found them still asleep in their moses basket. I was tired, I was on auto pilot and I fucked up. Thankfully there were no bad repurcussions but I beat myself up about it. I'm usually hyper aware, I have anxiety about my children being harmed so watch them like a hawk. That one day I just went about my morning without even thinking about it.

That Washington post article was heartbreaking. I cannot imagine living knowing my actions had caused my child to die such a horrible death.

Do you have twins? I can't work out if you forgot one baby or two as there's a mix of plural and singular in your post.

ProfessionalPirate · Yesterday 07:47

canklesmctacotits · 21/05/2026 22:34

You’re actually being monstrously cruel here. Clearly, people DO forget. Really smart, responsible, organized, clever people who probably are too clever to waste their time posting to randoms on MN like YOU or me. People who love their kids dearly. What do you want to happen to these parents? That they go to prison? And then what? What about the other children left at home and the other parent? What preventative effect or rehabilitative effect will it have on the responsible parent? What long term repercussions? Why do you want to make a tragic an awful situation 100 times worse? You just want to punish for the sake of it. That’s beyond cruel. It’s nasty. You don’t love your children any more than these people do. I really, really hope that when misfortune happens to you the people in your life show more humanity than you are showing on this issue.

It’s got nothing to do with how clever, smart or organised someone is. It’s about priorities and engagement with your children. Some of the most highly intelligent and high flying people I know are the least engaged with their DC, and I could totally imagine this happening to them. They are far too busy to pay any proper attention to their DC on the nursery run. They just want to offload them asap so they can get on with what’s really important - their work.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 07:50

Hark at the parents on here who are so very sure they would never forget their child.

But even they are human. Illness, sleep deprivation, life stress, bad news, an ill-timed phone call about a frantic work matter...any of it can cause a fatal distraction. The PPs who are utterly convinced it could never happen to them are deluding themselves.

In fact, I'd even argue it might be MORE likely to happen to them because they won't entertain any notion that it could, so they are not on guard against it.

Overconfidence is not great for safety.

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:04

'Hark at the parents on here who are so very sure they would never forget their child'

Hark all you like. This is thankfully a very rare occurrence despite folk saying 'oo it could happen to anyone!' No, it couldn't. Neglect is neglect no matter what excuses the parent has.

Tryingtokeepgoing · Yesterday 08:18

Gloriia · 21/05/2026 14:52

Far from perfect but I talked to kids in the car, or looked at them if they were asleep.

It is ridiculous to suggest it can happen to anyone if on autopilot. Do people forget their trousers, no.

Serious neglect. Tragic yes so sorry for the mother. How you'd forgive this I've no idea.

The paper is sobering, and makes some very good points which you might want to consider before judging…

“Ed Hickling believes he knows why. Hickling is a clinical psychologist from Albany, N.Y., who has studied the effects of fatal auto accidents on the drivers who survive them. He says these people are often judged with disproportionate harshness by the public, even when it was clearly an accident, and even when it was indisputably not their fault.

Humans, Hickling said, have a fundamental need to create and maintain a narrative for their lives in which the universe is not implacable and heartless, that terrible things do not happen at random, and that catastrophe can be avoided if you are vigilant and responsible.

In hyperthermia cases, he believes, the parents are demonized for much the same reasons. "We are vulnerable, but we don't want to be reminded of that. We want to believe that the world is understandable and controllable and unthreatening, that if we follow the rules, we'll be okay. So, when this kind of thing happens to other people, we need to put them in a different category from us. We don't want to resemble them, and the fact that we might is too terrifying to deal with. So, they have to be monsters."”

jasflowers · Yesterday 08:19

Mt563 · 21/05/2026 13:16

Who forgets? Me. You. Any normal parent. The pattern is: routine changes (dad is taking kid when mum usually does or vice versa), autopilot kicks in (don't stop at nursery as planned, straight to work as usual), some distraction or stress has you go into working thinking about something else (presentation, home issues, whatever).

I think it's important every parent realises this could happen to them and knows the pattern so they can recognise when they'll be vulnerable and can make safe guards.

Nope, you ve the most precious thing in the world in your care.

Distracted? my partner died in an accident when our baby was 11months old, i had plenty of "distractions" yet strangely enough, never forgot my baby was in the car or when older, near a pool.

Of course these things happen but ultimately, its carelessness, making excuses for basic lack of care (usually done by MC/better off parents) is one reason, we keep getting these tragedies.

Katiesaidthat · Yesterday 08:28

Gloriia · 21/05/2026 15:33

No not the whole time, just occasional glances. Obviously.

It would never have happend to me I guarantee that.

It´s never happened to me. I still had an app on my phone where when I walked away from the car the alarm went off, making me check the back seat. Worked by coupling my phone automatically with the car bluetooth. I am usually very organised and very perfect but what if one day I am not so perfect? I am human and humans are fallible. I believe that this disbelief in my total perfection is what makes my kid be in less danger than yours.

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:29

Tryingtokeepgoing · Yesterday 08:18

The paper is sobering, and makes some very good points which you might want to consider before judging…

“Ed Hickling believes he knows why. Hickling is a clinical psychologist from Albany, N.Y., who has studied the effects of fatal auto accidents on the drivers who survive them. He says these people are often judged with disproportionate harshness by the public, even when it was clearly an accident, and even when it was indisputably not their fault.

Humans, Hickling said, have a fundamental need to create and maintain a narrative for their lives in which the universe is not implacable and heartless, that terrible things do not happen at random, and that catastrophe can be avoided if you are vigilant and responsible.

In hyperthermia cases, he believes, the parents are demonized for much the same reasons. "We are vulnerable, but we don't want to be reminded of that. We want to believe that the world is understandable and controllable and unthreatening, that if we follow the rules, we'll be okay. So, when this kind of thing happens to other people, we need to put them in a different category from us. We don't want to resemble them, and the fact that we might is too terrifying to deal with. So, they have to be monsters."”

Nope. A 'psychologist' musing about what he thinks does not cut it. Sorry.

Believe me I find this whole thing as disturbing and distressing as the next person, but the victims here are the dc and the other parent.

Yes we can all feel sorry for the colossal mistake that the parent responsible made and how they'll have to live with it for the rest of their life but the excusing and the 'ah could happen to anyone' is nonsense.

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:30

'Of course these things happen but ultimately, its carelessness, making excuses for basic lack of care (usually done by MC/better off parents) is one reason, we keep getting these tragedies'

Exactly. A basic lack of care.

sashh · Yesterday 08:38

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 07:45

Do you have twins? I can't work out if you forgot one baby or two as there's a mix of plural and singular in your post.

I read it as two nursery aged children and a new baby so 3 in total.

Tryingtokeepgoing · Yesterday 09:02

Gloriia · Yesterday 08:29

Nope. A 'psychologist' musing about what he thinks does not cut it. Sorry.

Believe me I find this whole thing as disturbing and distressing as the next person, but the victims here are the dc and the other parent.

Yes we can all feel sorry for the colossal mistake that the parent responsible made and how they'll have to live with it for the rest of their life but the excusing and the 'ah could happen to anyone' is nonsense.

I think you’ve just made his point :)

Needspaceforlego · Yesterday 09:05

sashh · Yesterday 08:38

I read it as two nursery aged children and a new baby so 3 in total.

Thats how I read it too.

I think people saying they'd never forget their children are totally wrong.
People are creatures of habit, we all go into autopilot at times.
How many times have people put stuff in the car thinking, 'I'll drop that at the tip / recycle bin / return to Next on my way home' only to find it still in the car later?

Gloriia · Yesterday 09:12

'How many times have people put stuff in the car thinking, 'I'll drop that at the tip / recycle bin / return to Next on my way home' only to find it still in the car later'

Getting rid of rubbish isn't comparable to caring for your dc. As an aside though no, if I'm going to the tip I go.

Being flakey and a bit distracted is one thing. Leaving small kids in a car for hours unable to help themselves is quite another.

ProfessionalPirate · Yesterday 09:31

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 07:50

Hark at the parents on here who are so very sure they would never forget their child.

But even they are human. Illness, sleep deprivation, life stress, bad news, an ill-timed phone call about a frantic work matter...any of it can cause a fatal distraction. The PPs who are utterly convinced it could never happen to them are deluding themselves.

In fact, I'd even argue it might be MORE likely to happen to them because they won't entertain any notion that it could, so they are not on guard against it.

Overconfidence is not great for safety.

Edited

If I genuinely thought I was capable of a fatal distraction I’d never leave the house. Not all parents are created equal. It’s the toddler that drowns in the bath because the parent runs downstairs to fetch a towel and gets distracted. The child that wanders into the road because the parent is too busy looking at their phone in the playground. The child that pulls a bookcase ontop of them because the parents didn’t get around to tethering it to the wall. The child that gets forgotten about in a car because the parent is paying so little attention to them it’s like they’re not even there.

All avoidable.

ProfessionalPirate · Yesterday 09:32

Needspaceforlego · Yesterday 09:05

Thats how I read it too.

I think people saying they'd never forget their children are totally wrong.
People are creatures of habit, we all go into autopilot at times.
How many times have people put stuff in the car thinking, 'I'll drop that at the tip / recycle bin / return to Next on my way home' only to find it still in the car later?

This is only comparable if you place the same amount of importance on your children as you do a bit of rubbish for the tip.

falalalalalalaa · Yesterday 09:37

I could never read the Washington Post article because I know it would be too upsetting.

These incidents capture the insane pressure that parents are under in the modern world. It wouldn’t happen to me because we don’t take kids to school/nursery in the car. It must be hard to carry on living after causing your child to die like this.