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There is nothing positive to achieve from being vile towards retail staff. Why act this way?

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uihd · 20/05/2026 06:26

Yesterday evening I bought a few items from a supermarket on the way home from work. There were some customers being very rude and disrespectful towards the staff. It has got worse in the past 5 years.

Why do people think it’s ok to act like this? What do they want to achieve with this attitude? Do they realise that people are leaving retail and avoiding looking for work in the retail sector due to their behaviour?

Nothing positive can be achieved from acting like this. If people get a kick out of this, they are just pathetic people.

The staff in supermarkets have no control over
. Prices
. Stock availability
. Products that have been discontinued. Both in store stop selling it and brand stops making it
. Staffing issues
. The number of self checkouts installed
. The law
. Company policies
. Lottery rules

I have done my share in working in retail. Never I want to do that again

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uihd · 20/05/2026 18:39

Who are these 5% who says it’s ok to be rude and vile towards retail staff?

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rwalker · 20/05/2026 19:07

uihd · 20/05/2026 18:39

Who are these 5% who says it’s ok to be rude and vile towards retail staff?

These will be the ones that go to self service tills scan 1 item then put there entire shopping in the bagging area then continue to try and scan stuff at the speed of light which won’t work
than say machine are shit and they shouldn’t have to do the supermarkets job for them

youalright · 20/05/2026 19:13

OonaStubbs · 20/05/2026 17:43

Automated check-outs should be banned, and shoplifters should be able to be beaten by staff. If you don't want to be beaten, don't shoplift, it's quite simple really. And the same goes for people who verbally or physically abuse shop staff.

When im queen of the world I'm going to make this law 👸

Noodles1234 · 20/05/2026 19:31

I wholeheartedly agree, not just with retail though, anything customer facing.

NHS
Teachers / school staff
Emergency Services
Vets
Retail
Workmen / especially Road fixers

People are leaving the profession in droves and I would never work in retail again.

Katemax82 · 20/05/2026 19:39

uihd · 20/05/2026 06:58

I add another two:
. Your balance on your bank account
. Technology when it fails

There must be someone here who has screamed “these were £1.89 last week and now £2.09” at a poor shop assistant. Hopefully you felt guilty

When prices go up every April you will get cafe customers moaning their coffee is more expensive (happened to me)

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 20/05/2026 19:45

IME the people who are vile to retail staff, nursing staff etc are people who’s default setting is being vile to people, it’s an effort not to be vile to people, so it’s more that there’s no benefit in it for them to be nice. Nice takes work, vile is easier, nothing particularly bad happens when they are vile. Managers don’t throw customers out. Large companies can’t easily ban customers for just being rude. No negatives happen for being rude. They also don’t get better service or cheaper prices or a better range of products if they are nice, so why bother? What’s in it for them to be nice?

Once you accept a lot of the general population are only nice in order to get something, it makes more sense.

Newname71 · 20/05/2026 19:49

Coldautumnmornings · 20/05/2026 06:32

Teachers too are treated badly. It's a breakdown of values since Brexit/covid....

I think this too.
I work in a dental practice and we’ve all found that patients are much more demanding and rude since Covid!

OonaStubbs · 20/05/2026 20:08

roundaboutthehillsareshining · 20/05/2026 17:50

So would you be OK if you were falsely accused of shoplifting with having a baton taken to you before the truth was established ? Or a baton taken to your children in the same position? If you accidentally mis-scanned something and it didn't go through the till, is a disabling beating justified? And what about the effect on staff delivering the beating? Most people don't actually enjoy inflicting physical violence on each other and are damaged by the process of doing so....

"Large companies can’t easily ban customers for just being rude."

Yes they can!

uihd · 20/05/2026 20:28

OonaStubbs · 20/05/2026 20:08

"Large companies can’t easily ban customers for just being rude."

Yes they can!

I can think of many instances of both the supermarket and other customer service jobs where people have been banned for their rudeness and racist/sexist comments too

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muppahuppapuppa · 20/05/2026 20:33

Nogimachi · 20/05/2026 16:59

People used to be brought up
to be obedient, respectful and even deferential. A society where the church/ Scouts/Guide still played a role meant people learned to think of others before themselves.
Now children are brought up that they are the centre of the universe, are indulged, gratified and learn no respect. In addition, life is fast-paced and stressful. This combination leads to impatience and rudeness.

My daughter works in a coffee shop at a castle. The majority of visitors are older (retirement age).

Most folk are lovely but many are not!

She is 21, her brother 18, both are polite.

It is NOT age it is personality. Some people are just RUDE 🤷‍♀️

uihd · 20/05/2026 20:38

muppahuppapuppa · 20/05/2026 20:33

My daughter works in a coffee shop at a castle. The majority of visitors are older (retirement age).

Most folk are lovely but many are not!

She is 21, her brother 18, both are polite.

It is NOT age it is personality. Some people are just RUDE 🤷‍♀️

I believe this could be because some elder people think as they are old, they feel they need superior treatment.

Also noticed a correlation between rudeness and reluctance to adopt new technology

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youalright · 20/05/2026 20:39

uihd · 20/05/2026 20:28

I can think of many instances of both the supermarket and other customer service jobs where people have been banned for their rudeness and racist/sexist comments too

Absolutely where i work there has been customers banned for behaviour. People need to remember this when shopping dont think nothing will happen

Datgal · 20/05/2026 20:41

RampantIvy · 20/05/2026 08:34

I agree. I had a Saturday job when I was at school then spent many yeara as a sales rep. Having been on the "other side" I get it.

Most definitely. I can actually tell if people have worked in retail/hospitality. They tend to be more patient and understanding about stuff. I genuinely think that it teaches people a lot.

muppahuppapuppa · 20/05/2026 20:45

It feels that since the pandemic people are a little less patient and kind. I have noticed this in driving too.

Unfortunately, it also feels that the ‘cost of living’ crisis is also making individuals less pleasant to each other.

I have worked in retail, social care and now online. Sadly, some people are unpleasant. I ‘love bomb’ people and won’t get drawn into THEIR miserable/bad treatment of others 😉

uihd · 20/05/2026 20:47

youalright · 20/05/2026 20:39

Absolutely where i work there has been customers banned for behaviour. People need to remember this when shopping dont think nothing will happen

Especially if you don't drive. Plus if buses are not good for reliability, taking you to other places with supermarkets.

Also if you banned from stores, you are banned from doing online shopping - delivery and click n collect.

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Oaktree99 · 20/05/2026 20:49

General public behaviour has really declined over the last few years, it's really depressing.

TheyGrewUp · 20/05/2026 20:56

Oaktree99 · 20/05/2026 20:49

General public behaviour has really declined over the last few years, it's really depressing.

Yes, and it's inexcusable. However, so.too has service. So many retail/bank staff have forgotyen the words please and thank you or a smile. Teachers sometimes speak to.parents as though they are 8 and the tone of some NHS staff is awful.

It works both ways.

Datgal · 20/05/2026 21:00

I work in a public facing role. I have noticed a decline in patience and kindness since COVID... coincidence with timing and was always going downhill? Not sure, but definitely noticed a difference since then. In fact during COVID it wa6si stressful at work. People being demanding and not understanding new protocols. I always thought it brought out either the best in people, or if they were already bastards, just made things worse! I find age no bearing either.
Bit off topic but same with entitlement, is driving and parking. Nobody gives a shit anymore!
Was talking to a blind client(with guide dog and 100% blind). We were having a chat, and I asked her opinion as she said someone in a car had actually ran into her, but she never found out who it was as they drove off (I mean wtf?!). People are constantly parking over the tactiles on pedestrian crossings making it harder.
Client says recently she came out of her gate where she usually crosses, with tactiles on the floor, and there was a car parked there. She said she was walking round the car placing her hands on the car to help her round, when a neighbour saw and asked if she was ok and should he ask the guy to move his car. An idiot was sat in this car and just letting her struggle round!! Bonkers.
She's definitely noticed an increase. So have I, and it's just wearing. We only notice if we've had nice clients in, as it makes your day so much nicer.

Macinae · 20/05/2026 21:44

Worked in both retail and a call centre when I was young, and people on the phone are far worse. I think it's because they feel anonymous over the phone. This was years and years ago so unfortunately seems to have always been the case.

OonaStubbs · 20/05/2026 21:46

I work in an insurance related field and people's insurance policies have been cancelled for being abusive (usually repeatedly) to call centre staff over the phone. So there are repercussions.

mumumental · 20/05/2026 22:24

They do it because they are a bit dim.

Sunshineonacloudyday111 · 20/05/2026 22:25

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 20/05/2026 08:03

Yes, I did work in retail when I was younger, so I do know what it's like. And I noticed even back then that a lot of my colleagues just didn't seem to know how to talk to people. I see it in shops all the time now, too. Customer service staff handling situations badly and then getting abused by the customer. It isn't desirable for the staff or the customer.

Customer service in this country is sometimes excellent but it is often very poor. Because employers leave it to chance instead of training staff properly.

I have managed numerous frontline functions over the course of my career, and effective training absolutely does make a huge difference to people's experience of the working environment. It doesn't eliminate abuse or rudeness from the public but it does absolutely reduce the frequency of such events if it is done well.

Nobody deserves to be on the receiving end of abuse at work, so employers need to do more to protect and support their staff. And that does involve better or more effective training.

You really have no clue do you

uihd · 20/05/2026 22:26

OonaStubbs · 20/05/2026 21:46

I work in an insurance related field and people's insurance policies have been cancelled for being abusive (usually repeatedly) to call centre staff over the phone. So there are repercussions.

Hopefully making it more difficult to buy any insurance

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 20/05/2026 22:52

Sunshineonacloudyday111 · 20/05/2026 22:25

You really have no clue do you

I get that some people want to dismiss comments about the need for more training. That doesn't mean that the comments are actually wrong, though.

jasflowers · 21/05/2026 06:41

Nogimachi · 20/05/2026 16:59

People used to be brought up
to be obedient, respectful and even deferential. A society where the church/ Scouts/Guide still played a role meant people learned to think of others before themselves.
Now children are brought up that they are the centre of the universe, are indulged, gratified and learn no respect. In addition, life is fast-paced and stressful. This combination leads to impatience and rudeness.

Every single person i ve seen being rude to shop staff has been older, 50 plus.

Usually, not always, male.

Same with road rage incidents, more often than not, men.

Life is no more fast paced or stressed than before, people just like to think it is, as it excuses how they act.

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