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DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:16

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 15:00

Sorry. We're done as you reported me.

???

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:18

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 14:55

You'll forgive me for not replying in any constructive way I hope. Considering my last one was deleted.

What did you write in it? Was it constructive? Looking back the deleted post appears to be the one in which you stated that you think I’m “psychotic” so I’m not surprised that Mumsnet decided to delete it. Are you?

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2026 15:21

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DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:23

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If you do grasp these things then your comments on this thread are inexplicable.

And yet again just another personal attack rather than any engagement with the economic facts.

Where’s your data to support your claim yesterday that the data from the ONS and Goverment accounts that I provided “feels wrong” and therefore in your opinion is not correct?

Where’s your response to my proposals about how to fix the economy? Where are your counter-proposals with alternative suggestions?

Or would you just rather continue to make personal insults to other people on the internet and their grandmothers if they don’t agree with you?

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 15:24

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:18

What did you write in it? Was it constructive? Looking back the deleted post appears to be the one in which you stated that you think I’m “psychotic” so I’m not surprised that Mumsnet decided to delete it. Are you?

Mumsnet is reactive, not proactive. The moderators don't just delete posts because they feel like it. They react to reports. So "mumsnet" didn't "decide" to delete it. They responded to a report. As it should be.

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 15:25

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:23

If you do grasp these things then your comments on this thread are inexplicable.

And yet again just another personal attack rather than any engagement with the economic facts.

Where’s your data to support your claim yesterday that the data from the ONS and Goverment accounts that I provided “feels wrong” and therefore in your opinion is not correct?

Where’s your response to my proposals about how to fix the economy? Where are your counter-proposals with alternative suggestions?

Or would you just rather continue to make personal insults to other people on the internet and their grandmothers if they don’t agree with you?

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I rest my case.

CarolineMumsnet · 24/05/2026 15:27

Popping on with a gentle reminder that robust debate is fine but please steer clear of personal attack or posts that otherwise break talk guidelines. To keep the thread on track, if any posts are crossing a line please report them to us and we'll take a look.

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2026 15:27

What the hell? Why was my post deleted? You’re going to be talking to yourself now @DrRylandGrace. I’m out.

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:28

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 15:24

Mumsnet is reactive, not proactive. The moderators don't just delete posts because they feel like it. They react to reports. So "mumsnet" didn't "decide" to delete it. They responded to a report. As it should be.

Ok, so somebody clearly reported you for breaking the Talk Guidelines. What’s your point? Is it relevant to the thread or just about your personal dislike or me and your pseudo-medical diagnoses of strangers on the internet with whose opinions you disagree?

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 15:28

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2026 15:27

What the hell? Why was my post deleted? You’re going to be talking to yourself now @DrRylandGrace. I’m out.

Same!

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:28

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2026 15:27

What the hell? Why was my post deleted? You’re going to be talking to yourself now @DrRylandGrace. I’m out.

I’ve no idea. I’ve not reported any of your posts. You can check that with Mumsnet if you wish.

Donsyb · 24/05/2026 17:42

Backedoffhackedoff · 19/05/2026 17:28

Does this change anything though? Is it a worsening trend?
Plenty of people have never had private pensions, they weren’t even available until relatively recently. None of my parents (early retirement age) , in laws or close family friends have private pensions, with the exception of ex teachers and police officers.

the triple lock is completely unsustainable though

Lots of people had company pensions though before private pensions. Stakeholder pensions started to come in as companies began phasing out company pensions because they were too expensive. Both my parents (now in their 80s) had relatively low paid, working class jobs, but will probably be better off than me because in their day, companies gave you a pension plus they still have the state pension.

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 18:01

DrRylandGrace · 24/05/2026 15:28

Ok, so somebody clearly reported you for breaking the Talk Guidelines. What’s your point? Is it relevant to the thread or just about your personal dislike or me and your pseudo-medical diagnoses of strangers on the internet with whose opinions you disagree?

I don’t know you. I have no feelings towards you. 🧐

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 24/05/2026 18:26

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 12:13

You can claim 6 months of the Job Seeker element as it's contributions based rather than means tested.

I have another job. But it pays less than my old job and I now have travel costs.

Job Seekers was about £500 a month which is nowhere near enough, but I was fortunate to be offered a part-time temp position, and then asked to stay on at increased hours.

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 18:53

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 24/05/2026 18:26

I have another job. But it pays less than my old job and I now have travel costs.

Job Seekers was about £500 a month which is nowhere near enough, but I was fortunate to be offered a part-time temp position, and then asked to stay on at increased hours.

I'm glad to hear that but sorry it's less money. FWIW, I have never had UC either.

Papyrophile · 24/05/2026 19:08

This has been an interesting and intellectual discussion thread. I've read and learned quite a lot about how people make financial decisions for the long term (or don't). My contributions have been personal anecdata in general. And I'm not entirely typical.

My conclusion is that pension saving has to be made mandatory, from the first pound earned, at every age. The suggestion made somewhere on social media that every baby born should have £10K deposited in their name at birth, that cannot be touched until they are 60, no matter how disabled or deranged or needful they are, would be much cheaper all around.

There's another thread currently running, that I am only reading along because I don't have anything useful to contribute, about NEETs. No one is mentioning the increased cost of caring for babies born prematurely, to adulthood, or the toll exacted on the parents.

It is quite marvellous that the medics can save a 23 or 24 week foetus, but one also needs to accept the price of doing so. Your miracle baby is costing the NHS (and all of us) about £50k per year. Every year in school requires additional support, such as 1-2-1 TA help. Even at NMW that's £25,000 per annum. Yes it is really really distasteful and very unpleasant to write this, but the community cannot afford to let self-interest (your personal wishes for your child in need) dictate policy. I don't have a decent answer though. And you would not like the answer I'd have to make as an alternative.

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:13

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 18:01

I don’t know you. I have no feelings towards you. 🧐

Just me that you’ve diagnosed as being mentally unwell then 😂

AniahJeremiah · 24/05/2026 19:13

I'm not surprised. Young people have no money. What we have is being stolen into the intentionally unsustainable triple lock which is another boomer fraud mechanism of steal everything, fuck everyone else.

Retirees will go back to being penniless like they were a few decades ago, those who lived through the war

The state pension won't exist once the boomers are all dead

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:14

AniahJeremiah · 24/05/2026 19:13

I'm not surprised. Young people have no money. What we have is being stolen into the intentionally unsustainable triple lock which is another boomer fraud mechanism of steal everything, fuck everyone else.

Retirees will go back to being penniless like they were a few decades ago, those who lived through the war

The state pension won't exist once the boomers are all dead

They have literally ruined it for everybody

AniahJeremiah · 24/05/2026 19:15

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Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 19:16

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:13

Just me that you’ve diagnosed as being mentally unwell then 😂

Aye, sorry about that but you did post we should all work until we die!

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 19:17

AniahJeremiah · 24/05/2026 19:13

I'm not surprised. Young people have no money. What we have is being stolen into the intentionally unsustainable triple lock which is another boomer fraud mechanism of steal everything, fuck everyone else.

Retirees will go back to being penniless like they were a few decades ago, those who lived through the war

The state pension won't exist once the boomers are all dead

Why do you all keep going on about boomers?

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:17

Differentforgirls · 24/05/2026 19:16

Aye, sorry about that but you did post we should all work until we die!

You see I actually didn’t
I said that you need to make provision for yourself and if you fail to do so you need to work until you die. There are fates far worse than working till you die.
Like working your whole life and having fuck all to show for it which is what our children are facing

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:18

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My grandparents would be absolutely horrified to see what their children have done without an ounce of remorse in them.

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2026 19:20

Apprentice26 · 24/05/2026 19:17

You see I actually didn’t
I said that you need to make provision for yourself and if you fail to do so you need to work until you die. There are fates far worse than working till you die.
Like working your whole life and having fuck all to show for it which is what our children are facing

The next 20 years will see the biggest inter generational transfer of wealth ever. There are going to be some very wealthy younger people.

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