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AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my MIL's behaviour around food?

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illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 13:06

Sorry, this ended up being quite a long post.

I don’t know what advice I am looking for and simply wanted to share this with other people to see if anybody else has ever experienced anything like this?

MIL, who is past retirement age, has a not so healthy relationship with weight and food. There are reasons I say this which I won’t go into, but let’s just say it is off topic for this thread.

I put on weight recently, but my BMI is in the green, right in the middle. This comes after years of being underweight, at times dangerously so, and struggling to put weight on, for reasons that are also off topic here.

MIL is now constantly asking me how the weight loss is going, measuring me up with her eyes, essentially fat-checking me… she does try to be discrete about this but I’ve seen it happen. She will ask whether I have managed to lose any weight since the last time she saw me. She then confirms “but the weight is going down right?”

She herself is not underweight for her age but is on the thin side.

In her fridge and cupboard, she keeps lots of out of date, expired food. Often mouldy. She will tell anybody who listens how she doesn’t gain weight and how proud she is of it, then going into details about how she manages to do that. For example, if she has eaten a lot one day she will try to not to eat very much for several days thereafter.

Unless she eats out, she’d does not eat “real” food, instead snacking on things like tomatoes or biscuits or nuts, or if she decides to have a meal, it will be something like canned soup. My understanding is she doesn’t really know how to cook, but that isn’t something you can judge her for because not everybody does.

She will often go out of her way to make sure her son (my husband) gets food when we are there, but will essentially do the opposite with me. This used to happen even when I was very thin. If we would go out for a meal she would order something “healthy” then try to eat my food and actually verbalise that she won’t take any from her son’s plate because he needs it. She would encourage her son to get the most expensive and substantial option on a menu, and although it has never explicitly been said I always feel that I am supposed to pick something cheap, sometimes based on suggestions she makes but mostly it’s based on experience from eating out with her and the sort of obvious conclusion you can draw from the behaviour when I do get something that isn’t the very cheapest option (she tries to eat my food). Of course it is possible this is all in my head but I am fairly sure it is not.

I feel like there’s an aspect to this which comes from a need to hoard food because food costs money. Or making sure you get your money’s worth (since she paid for the meal). So her son eating is getting your moneys worth, me eating is not. This behaviour extends to other situations but again it’s a bit off topic.

She does offer me what is in her cupboard and fridge but as I say it’s all expired and mouldy. In the same breath she will talk about how to ensure you don’t get hungry by snacking on small amounts of food like sweets and nuts.

On our most recent visit she made her son some food (tinned soup). She did not offer me the same. She then told me to join her while she ran some errands, in what felt like an attempt to distract me from eating. At this point it was late afternoon and I had not had anything to eat all day. She later offered me tomatoes and crackers.

I don’t think I will ever try to “set a boundary” because to some degree it is a lost cause and I don’t want to make her cross, I mostly try to eat before and after seeing her, but sometimes there isn’t time to do that.

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Woodfiresareamazing2 · 21/05/2026 12:36

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:09

Thank you for this specifically @NotTheMrMenAgain

And thank you to all of you for your messages and input. As a result of this thread I have done two things. I've spoken to DH and to my parents.

@CraftyYankee mentioned the point about "your family isn't here and so you don't have a support network." and this is very true and has been a challenge the entire time I've lived in the UK. Sometimes it has made things easier, but a lot of times it makes things harder.

@NotTheMrMenAgain you say you would be fuming if you knew this had happened to your DD and I can understand that. I think this is why I don't always tell my parents about some of the bad things that happen/have happened in my life because I love them very much and I know they love me, so I don't want to protect them from the knowledge of something that I know would hurt them.

Told my parents some of these stories last night, but I had to do it in a very humorous way to not hurt them, and I could see that it particularly hurt my father to hear that I had been going hungry all day. They bough laughed about the absurdity of some of the stories and especially of her eating my/other people's food, and were of course appalled to know she keeps mouldy and out of date food in her fridge. They suggested similar things to what everyone has suggested here, which is to just tell her I'm going to go and get myself some food, or I will not be eating that thank you very much. Underlining that I should not be going hungry.

I said earlier in this thread in response to @BuckChuckets that I would find some way of weaving this into a planning session about future kids. Well I sort of did this... but instead of discretely weaving into a structured conversation I just brought the subject up, and asked why do you think she didn't offer me any food? He said I really don't know. He also said since he had was focused on his work call he didn't realise exactly what was going on which I do think is fair in this particular instance. I also have some faith that I may be able to steer him towards being a bit more aware of this in the future, and to speak up if and when he notices that it is happening.

However, where this gets sticky is when I asked whether he would be happy leaving future kids with her, he got very, very upset and said of course he would "she is my MUM!!!" (he said this a number of times) and then talked about how his nieces and nephews have been left with her when they were children and how they are absolutely fine. I asked him well if we had a daughter would you be okay with your mum asking her about her weight and things like that and he said of course not. Very confusing!!

He then also did a fair bit of mental gymnastics to effectively claim his mother makes the same elaborate meals he does (she really doesn't). This is a bit like comparing boiled pasta with a side of cheese to a lasagna. I don't want to get dragged into whether or not children should be fed boiled pasta with bits of cheese, because it's besides the point. What he did was go into denial.

I won't bore you with the details of the entire conversation but when I pointed out that his mother told me she has recently been teaching her one of her grandchildren, who is pre-school age, methods for ensuring you can keep hunger at bay (spoiler: the answer is NOT eat a meal) he said well thats what you teach kids so they don't get fat. And then he said when he got fat when he was in his teens it was an upsetting experience for him.

So I think there's a very extreme disfunction in their family around food, where they don't eat healthy and nutritious meals as a baseline and instead rely on snacks to keep hunger at bay. There are all sorts of rationalisations around why they don't eat good food, like being individuals and therefore choosing what to eat for themselves or saving money or working a lot: "my protestant work ethic means I don't have time to eat".

When they were children and teenagers, it appears as if this then led to significant weight gain for some of the children and distorted their body image, compounded by their mother pointing out that they were getting fat, which then reinforced the idea that weight loss is something to strive for. This of course doesn't address the, for me, more concerning part around expired and mouldy food.

I'm not now sure how to progress this issue around how to be on the same page regarding future kids. He feels very attacked when I suggest we can't leave our future kids with his DM. He is expecting sleepovers. I think for now perhaps if I focus on ensuring I get the food I need that might create a foundation for establishing rules around any future children.

Thoughts and comments on this are welcome! Thanks again to you all.

Edited

Wow @illtellyouwhat this is serious stuff.

Your DH is completely in denial about how damaging his DM's attitude to food is.
Even though he suffered the effects of it himself as a teenager.

The scariest thing for me is that he does not see anything concerning about her teaching a very young child how to keep hunger at bay, ie that eating normally is wrong.
That to me is a form of child abuse.

Please don't have children with him.

Unless and until he clearly recognises how damaged she is, and what harm she causes to everyone around her.

If you ended up divorced, he could allow her access to your DC all the time when they're with him. Imagine how traumatising that would be for them, and you.

You have a lot of thinking to do ...

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:37

ButterYellowFlowers · 21/05/2026 12:30

Would getting a book about childhood nutrition and reading out ‘interesting’ (relevant) excerpts perhaps slowly show him that his mother is not correct about what is healthy or normal? She isn’t a dietitian I assume.

This is a very good idea!

Your post also made me look up the exact idiom she has been teaching her GD (since apparently this is what you should teach children so they learn how to manage food).

The phrase she was going on about was learning how to keep the wolf at the door: "to earn just enough money to buy food and survive, narrowly avoiding extreme poverty or starvation".

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ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:39

There's a theme in both the conversation with your parents and the conversation with your husband... You put their feelings ahead of your own. To your own disadvantage. I asked you once before and I'll ask you again. Why do you think that you don't matter?

I'm very happy that you had a more honest conversation with your parents, even though you used humour to minimise the abusive behaviour. Whatever you choose to do now going forwards, you'll be able to talk more honestly and openly with your parents and have their support

You've made a start with your DH. But if you think that you alone are able to undo the years of abuse done to him, you're mistaken. He needs therapy. You need therapy. Both separately. You both have your own issues that are individual to you. That is what should happen next. Do not have children until you have both had therapy. Tell him that you are on to completely different planets about raising children. And you are not willing to have children with him until you can agree on how you will keep them safe. Tell him your mind will not be changed on the point that they will not be spending time alone with his mother, because she is a harmful person to children and she is the reason why he needs therapy. Be direct. Do not minimise. Be calm. Don't get drawn into an arguement. This is not a debate. These are your boundaries.

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:44

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:37

This is a very good idea!

Your post also made me look up the exact idiom she has been teaching her GD (since apparently this is what you should teach children so they learn how to manage food).

The phrase she was going on about was learning how to keep the wolf at the door: "to earn just enough money to buy food and survive, narrowly avoiding extreme poverty or starvation".

A logical approach isn't going to work on your DH. He doesn't need education. He's he's been through school. He's done biology. He knows what healthy eating is on paper. He will see other people in the world either in real life or on TV and film treating food in a normal way. He knows logically what is normal.

His problem is he has no idea emotionally what is normal. He needs help emotionally. He's a victim of childhood abuse himself.

HellyR · 21/05/2026 12:49

I pointed out that his mother told me she has recently been teaching her one of her grandchildren, who is pre-school age, methods for ensuring you can keep hunger at bay (spoiler: the answer is NOT eat a meal) he said well thats what you teach kids so they don't get fat.

WOW

This is absolutely awful.
No kid of mine would be hearing that. I have friends with primary-school age daughters who are already upset about the prospect of being called fat. Itxs insidious and should absolutely be a red line.

Your DH as well sounds like he'd be a crap parent. He seems oblivious and unable to see what's important.

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:58

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:44

A logical approach isn't going to work on your DH. He doesn't need education. He's he's been through school. He's done biology. He knows what healthy eating is on paper. He will see other people in the world either in real life or on TV and film treating food in a normal way. He knows logically what is normal.

His problem is he has no idea emotionally what is normal. He needs help emotionally. He's a victim of childhood abuse himself.

His brain disconnects logic/knowledge from the emotional feeling of what is "right" and "true". And what is "right"and "true" has been fed to him alongside the mouldy food all his life.
If his mother had told him the sky was purple, he'd argue that as a fact. You can't educate this out of him. There are no magic words that you can say to get him to be normal. If you follow that path, you're going to end up arguing and resenting each other. There will be years of unhappiness followed by divorce. You can't change how he thinks. If you want a future with him he needs professional help. I already think you need professional help too. But if you don't feel like you have the strength to assert yourself on this, then pause all these conversations with him for now, pause having kids. Have a year of therapy yourself and come back to this point then

godmum56 · 21/05/2026 13:28

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:58

His brain disconnects logic/knowledge from the emotional feeling of what is "right" and "true". And what is "right"and "true" has been fed to him alongside the mouldy food all his life.
If his mother had told him the sky was purple, he'd argue that as a fact. You can't educate this out of him. There are no magic words that you can say to get him to be normal. If you follow that path, you're going to end up arguing and resenting each other. There will be years of unhappiness followed by divorce. You can't change how he thinks. If you want a future with him he needs professional help. I already think you need professional help too. But if you don't feel like you have the strength to assert yourself on this, then pause all these conversations with him for now, pause having kids. Have a year of therapy yourself and come back to this point then

This. Honestly I'd be honest with him too and be up front that you will not be having children with him until these issues are sorted and by that I do not mean your giving way. Honestly the only person who can change him is him and to me it doesn't sound like he is up for it right now. I agree with the suggestion that you should think about therapy for yourself

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 13:47

Based on current poll numbers, there are roughly 40 people who think I'm being unreasonable.

If we assume some people have voted that way with the logic of "you're being unreasonable because you're allowing this" - which is a fair point and it did make me laugh to read that when someone said that here - it still leaves a fair number of people who we haven't heard from.

I do really appreciate all the responses so far and I would be really interested to hear from someone who genuinely thinks I'm being unreasonable. Why do you think that? Do your recognise yourself in MILs behaviour? Insight into this thinking might help with how to frame things with DH and/or MIL.

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CruCru · 21/05/2026 13:59

Honestly? I've read through your posts and they have gone to a darker place than the OP suggested.

My initial advice is to pretend to be an English speaking German or Dutch person. Be entirely unemotional and matter of fact. Don't make a joke out of it. Say that the food is mouldy and out of date. You are going to eat your dinner in the restaurant and you are not planning to share it. Your body is fine, there is no need to comment on it.

BUT I'm now going to suggest that you consider leaving him. Having peculiar in laws will make your life so much harder. You don't have children and you are still young. You are not trapped.

CruCru · 21/05/2026 14:01

I will also say that this sort of attitude to food - that there is food that is "naughty" and that women should be on a diet - is now very aging. Young women have their issues (God knows) but they tend to be too polite to sit chuntering on about how a slice of cake looks "too rich".

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 14:07

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 13:47

Based on current poll numbers, there are roughly 40 people who think I'm being unreasonable.

If we assume some people have voted that way with the logic of "you're being unreasonable because you're allowing this" - which is a fair point and it did make me laugh to read that when someone said that here - it still leaves a fair number of people who we haven't heard from.

I do really appreciate all the responses so far and I would be really interested to hear from someone who genuinely thinks I'm being unreasonable. Why do you think that? Do your recognise yourself in MILs behaviour? Insight into this thinking might help with how to frame things with DH and/or MIL.

Edited

See this is you being crazy again (or non of this is real and you're just trying to keep the thread going for the kicks)
Why do you want to understand it from your MILs point of view? She's very unwell. None of this is normal. I though we'd established that. Stop sliding backwards. You can't reason with her batshit in her or your dh. Anyone on here who agrees with her is an abuser. Why do you want an abuser's opinion?

Why do you want to frame anything to anyone? You don't have to approach this with understanding and insight. Stop trying to make everyone else feel comfortable. Would it help you to think of your MILs abusive behaviour towards her children/grandchildren in a hyperbolic way? She harming them through food. What if she hit them instead and your DH thought that was fine because " corporal punishment is how kids learn to behave". Would you want to understand that point of view too, so you could frame your objections? Or would you just say " dh we're not having children until you promise me we're not going to hit them and neither is your mother"

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 14:07

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 12:39

There's a theme in both the conversation with your parents and the conversation with your husband... You put their feelings ahead of your own. To your own disadvantage. I asked you once before and I'll ask you again. Why do you think that you don't matter?

I'm very happy that you had a more honest conversation with your parents, even though you used humour to minimise the abusive behaviour. Whatever you choose to do now going forwards, you'll be able to talk more honestly and openly with your parents and have their support

You've made a start with your DH. But if you think that you alone are able to undo the years of abuse done to him, you're mistaken. He needs therapy. You need therapy. Both separately. You both have your own issues that are individual to you. That is what should happen next. Do not have children until you have both had therapy. Tell him that you are on to completely different planets about raising children. And you are not willing to have children with him until you can agree on how you will keep them safe. Tell him your mind will not be changed on the point that they will not be spending time alone with his mother, because she is a harmful person to children and she is the reason why he needs therapy. Be direct. Do not minimise. Be calm. Don't get drawn into an arguement. This is not a debate. These are your boundaries.

Lots to unpack in that question... and I agree about the therapy. I think I find it tiring to have to explain and justify my decisions, which are not always right to be fair, to other people because it's emotionally exhausting. So it's easier to avoid it. And to some degree easier to not really deal with people at all, which I suppose is why I don't have a support network for this type of stuff and why I ended up asking about this here, instead of with friends.

I can choose to stop looking at this thread but if I talk about this with people IRL then they'll bring it up again in the future (holding me accountable). Which I find stressful.

I had a subpar experience with therapy a couple of year ago (the therapist was not right for me personally) and actually had to go into debt to do those sessions. Since I'm out of work currently I can't really afford it. Don't want to take us off topic again but since he isn't too keen on having therapy, it's hard to justify the spend. He also thinks I'm his therapist, even though I've said many times that is not my role and I am not qualified to be your therapist.

You said "she is the reason why he needs therapy" and actually he knows from previous therapy he himself had.

Sorry, not trying to come up with excuses. But I have taken onboard the need for therapy and I will see how I can make that happen.

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ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 14:17

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 14:07

Lots to unpack in that question... and I agree about the therapy. I think I find it tiring to have to explain and justify my decisions, which are not always right to be fair, to other people because it's emotionally exhausting. So it's easier to avoid it. And to some degree easier to not really deal with people at all, which I suppose is why I don't have a support network for this type of stuff and why I ended up asking about this here, instead of with friends.

I can choose to stop looking at this thread but if I talk about this with people IRL then they'll bring it up again in the future (holding me accountable). Which I find stressful.

I had a subpar experience with therapy a couple of year ago (the therapist was not right for me personally) and actually had to go into debt to do those sessions. Since I'm out of work currently I can't really afford it. Don't want to take us off topic again but since he isn't too keen on having therapy, it's hard to justify the spend. He also thinks I'm his therapist, even though I've said many times that is not my role and I am not qualified to be your therapist.

You said "she is the reason why he needs therapy" and actually he knows from previous therapy he himself had.

Sorry, not trying to come up with excuses. But I have taken onboard the need for therapy and I will see how I can make that happen.

But I have taken onboard the need for therapy and I will see how I can make that happen.
Ask your parents to help you finance it. They love you and want the best for you. If you were my daughter and intent on staying married to this man I would eat beans on toast everyday, sell all my possessions, I would find the money to get you the help you need to keep you safe and any future grandkids safe too. Find someone accredited by the BPC or UKCP. Google their websites and use their find a therapist tool. Stay away from BACP (they accredit all sorts of nonsense trainings)

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 14:18

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 14:07

See this is you being crazy again (or non of this is real and you're just trying to keep the thread going for the kicks)
Why do you want to understand it from your MILs point of view? She's very unwell. None of this is normal. I though we'd established that. Stop sliding backwards. You can't reason with her batshit in her or your dh. Anyone on here who agrees with her is an abuser. Why do you want an abuser's opinion?

Why do you want to frame anything to anyone? You don't have to approach this with understanding and insight. Stop trying to make everyone else feel comfortable. Would it help you to think of your MILs abusive behaviour towards her children/grandchildren in a hyperbolic way? She harming them through food. What if she hit them instead and your DH thought that was fine because " corporal punishment is how kids learn to behave". Would you want to understand that point of view too, so you could frame your objections? Or would you just say " dh we're not having children until you promise me we're not going to hit them and neither is your mother"

I wish none of this were real and am truly sad I don't have a MIL that cooks and bakes and all the rest of it. I don't feel I can rely on her because I feel like she always has some kind of angle she's working (related to the control issues she has).

As someone else said disparagingly, even though it's true, I analyse a lot, so I am just looking for more information so I can make better decisions, and also to preempt what sort of arguments I might be up against so I can prepare an answer for them in advance.

I mean based on comments in this thread clearly this is related to not wanting to cause friction and upset people but you are of course right (and i'm not saying that just to be agreeable...) and I need to stop trying to make people like me.

I just fear the isolation.

But I take your point about how this would be non-negotiable if we were talking about corporal punishment.

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BingoJingo · 21/05/2026 14:27

I am finding this a very interesting topic and I hope you truly find a way to navigate this awful relationship. I do agree that the only way this will happen is if you and your husband are aligned on the key, underlying nature of her dysfunctional behaviour and how he has become conditioned to accept this.

This leads me onto something you mentioned before, that you were almost told that they 'accepted you' easily. Do you think that they registered you as being compliant, demure and malleable from the outset? This is not meant in a derogatory way but its akin to a predator knowing what is and isn't suitable 'prey'. This is what abusers do, they are adept at seeking out appropriate prey.

Please do not allow yourself to be treated in this way, you are undermining the fabric of your soul and your identity. I really hope you take on board the advice given to you in this thread. Do not worry or give any headspace to the 40 people who voted differently. Who cares what other dysfunctional people think?

Take care of yourself.

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 14:48

BingoJingo · 21/05/2026 14:27

I am finding this a very interesting topic and I hope you truly find a way to navigate this awful relationship. I do agree that the only way this will happen is if you and your husband are aligned on the key, underlying nature of her dysfunctional behaviour and how he has become conditioned to accept this.

This leads me onto something you mentioned before, that you were almost told that they 'accepted you' easily. Do you think that they registered you as being compliant, demure and malleable from the outset? This is not meant in a derogatory way but its akin to a predator knowing what is and isn't suitable 'prey'. This is what abusers do, they are adept at seeking out appropriate prey.

Please do not allow yourself to be treated in this way, you are undermining the fabric of your soul and your identity. I really hope you take on board the advice given to you in this thread. Do not worry or give any headspace to the 40 people who voted differently. Who cares what other dysfunctional people think?

Take care of yourself.

Thank you for this. Interesting point about the possible reasons for acceptance. I think I need to test a lot of the suggestions I've been given here to see the reaction. If true I would expect some retaliatory actions of withholding various things, she might even snap, as that would be consistent with your reading of this.

My parents raised me with certain values that include respect, politeness, and being helpful and charitable. As a teenager I rebelled against some of this (mainly respect, in particular towards authority) and was a bit of a nightmare for my parents. But even during that time, and still today, the first impression people get with me is that I am a very respectful, polite, happy and caring person. Which I think is true tbf.

But I can also be a bit spicy (I have a temper). Obviously I can regulate that a bit better now as an adult, but struggled with it a lot growing up. I think this leads to some isolation for me because I know (have been told?) I must keep the temper under wraps so my only outlet nowadays is at home where I can moan and get angry about things (things that have annoyed me during the day, people that I feel have been mean to me etc, which can sometimes put a strain on the relationship with DH because he has to hear these things on repeat). You could think of this as a type of public/private distinction where I try to not allow myself to react to things in the public sphere because I have learned that it is frowned upon or leads to negative outcomes.

Outside of that environment (the home) I know I need to not get into a situation where people might say I have a bad temper or I am difficult or not accommodating and things like that.

Very early on in our relationship my MIL would always praise me and say you are brilliant you can tell what needs doing before anybody tells you! and it's something that I took a lot of pride in and I really liked hearing this positive feedback. But now that you have framed it as you have, I wonder if that was a way of conditioning me to do what she wants without her asking?

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BingoJingo · 21/05/2026 15:13

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 14:48

Thank you for this. Interesting point about the possible reasons for acceptance. I think I need to test a lot of the suggestions I've been given here to see the reaction. If true I would expect some retaliatory actions of withholding various things, she might even snap, as that would be consistent with your reading of this.

My parents raised me with certain values that include respect, politeness, and being helpful and charitable. As a teenager I rebelled against some of this (mainly respect, in particular towards authority) and was a bit of a nightmare for my parents. But even during that time, and still today, the first impression people get with me is that I am a very respectful, polite, happy and caring person. Which I think is true tbf.

But I can also be a bit spicy (I have a temper). Obviously I can regulate that a bit better now as an adult, but struggled with it a lot growing up. I think this leads to some isolation for me because I know (have been told?) I must keep the temper under wraps so my only outlet nowadays is at home where I can moan and get angry about things (things that have annoyed me during the day, people that I feel have been mean to me etc, which can sometimes put a strain on the relationship with DH because he has to hear these things on repeat). You could think of this as a type of public/private distinction where I try to not allow myself to react to things in the public sphere because I have learned that it is frowned upon or leads to negative outcomes.

Outside of that environment (the home) I know I need to not get into a situation where people might say I have a bad temper or I am difficult or not accommodating and things like that.

Very early on in our relationship my MIL would always praise me and say you are brilliant you can tell what needs doing before anybody tells you! and it's something that I took a lot of pride in and I really liked hearing this positive feedback. But now that you have framed it as you have, I wonder if that was a way of conditioning me to do what she wants without her asking?

Hmmm, so this was not overt or aggressive in the beginning. She praised you a lot for being thoughtful, helpful, anticipating needs etc. Did you view her as being warm and accepting perhaps? Because I think that underneath, MIL clocked that you would be accommodating and easy for her to ‘manage’.

If you prioritised politeness and keeping the peace, and reserved your distress and anger for private moments, she saw that you could be maneuvered into a role that would please her. Ugh, I don’t know if she was consciously this calculating, but I certainly think that she has played out her life according to an agenda over which she must maintain control, and she uses the people in her life as chess pieces, allowing her to shape it in the way she wants.

But you need to stop playing ball, and you need to stop being a back seat passenger in your own life. When you have children they will be your priority, and your need to protect them from any kind of dysfunction or abuse will be so strong. If you don’t resolve this now with your husband you will find yourself navigating a very difficult, fraught and fractured set of circumstances. You will not agree and he will become defensive of his mother. You have already seen this start to play out when you raise her weird behaviour with him. I don't think he has any intention of upsetting the apple cart and this is not going to be easy for him to unravel. But you must try and this is why people are suggesting therapy for him.

Please sort this out before you commit to having children. It is really important.

JoeyJava · 21/05/2026 15:20

I've found that when it's a recurring thing, it can be best to calmly explain your situation one-on-one. I know when it's someone you rarely see, you can just brush it aside, but with close friends/family, nothing is going to improve unless you take the leap and say something. Yes, it's daunting, but it'll hopefully work out.

Best of luck 🤞

BuckChuckets · 21/05/2026 15:28

You cannot have children with someone who has such damaging views around food and who won't accept they're damaging. I agree it's not his fault, it's his mother's, but the point is you would be willingly damaging those children knowing they're likely to be raised in a similar way to the way that damaged him.

godmum56 · 21/05/2026 15:32

OP, I didn't vote but I DO think you are being unreasonable because you are staying with a man who doesn't have your back and putting up with his batshit mother.

Currycats · 21/05/2026 15:35

SnappyQuoter · 19/05/2026 13:22

Wow. You picked the wrong man then, with the wrong mum.

This exactly. Both your MIL and your husband are terrible. And yeah she clearly has disorders eating but that’s neither here nor there. It’s no excuse for trying to make you feel self conscious about what you eat and basically passing on her issues with food to you. I wouldn’t tolerate that all but I also wouldn’t get with a man who didn’t stand up to his mother when necessary.

Balloonhearts · 21/05/2026 15:38

As nicely as possible, you need to up your standards. Why the hell is your husband sitting there like a man child? He needs to stand up for you.

Secondly, stop being such a bloody doormat! Tell her no, you don't want to run errands for her and any attempt at stealing your food should be met with the sharp stab of a fork.

For God's sake don't bring children into this dynamic. They'll grow up with eating disorders and probably no respect for you because your husband and mil certainly aren't showing any.

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 15:58

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 21/05/2026 14:17

But I have taken onboard the need for therapy and I will see how I can make that happen.
Ask your parents to help you finance it. They love you and want the best for you. If you were my daughter and intent on staying married to this man I would eat beans on toast everyday, sell all my possessions, I would find the money to get you the help you need to keep you safe and any future grandkids safe too. Find someone accredited by the BPC or UKCP. Google their websites and use their find a therapist tool. Stay away from BACP (they accredit all sorts of nonsense trainings)

Thank you for these concrete suggestions. I had a google. On the search form on the UNCP website it asks what kind of help i’m looking for.

Wondering whether (for him) it would be “eating disorders”? I’m thinking that is the core thing he needs help which would most seriously impact any future children?

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BeenThereBackThen · 21/05/2026 16:11

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 13:15

Nothing really… He eats his food. Sometimes chuffed, if it’s at a restaurant, or something he likes. Sometimes in despair because it’s awful/gone off.

If it’s about the weight he just doesn’t say much, she does the same to him. Other times we both just appease her by essentially agreeing she’s very clever to have come up with such fabulous weight loss tricks…

Off topic but is she wealthy and your DH is due to inherit quite a bit one day?

Wondering as all this appeasing and treading on eggshells around her is hard to understand otherwise.

Danascully2 · 21/05/2026 16:22

I don't have any experience with therapy but I think it would be more something about family dynamics. You haven't mentioned that he's dangerously underweight or has very restricted eating eg will only eat four items of very specific brands, or will only eat green foods or something. If he eats relatively normally when he's not around his mum then I'm not sure that's really an eating disorder, it's more of an issue with boundaries and self confidence within a family setting.
It's not really about his own eating from what you've said (though perhaps that's a whole separate thread), it's more about his refusal to support you in the face of completely weird unacceptable behaviour from his mum.

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