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AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my MIL's behaviour around food?

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illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 13:06

Sorry, this ended up being quite a long post.

I don’t know what advice I am looking for and simply wanted to share this with other people to see if anybody else has ever experienced anything like this?

MIL, who is past retirement age, has a not so healthy relationship with weight and food. There are reasons I say this which I won’t go into, but let’s just say it is off topic for this thread.

I put on weight recently, but my BMI is in the green, right in the middle. This comes after years of being underweight, at times dangerously so, and struggling to put weight on, for reasons that are also off topic here.

MIL is now constantly asking me how the weight loss is going, measuring me up with her eyes, essentially fat-checking me… she does try to be discrete about this but I’ve seen it happen. She will ask whether I have managed to lose any weight since the last time she saw me. She then confirms “but the weight is going down right?”

She herself is not underweight for her age but is on the thin side.

In her fridge and cupboard, she keeps lots of out of date, expired food. Often mouldy. She will tell anybody who listens how she doesn’t gain weight and how proud she is of it, then going into details about how she manages to do that. For example, if she has eaten a lot one day she will try to not to eat very much for several days thereafter.

Unless she eats out, she’d does not eat “real” food, instead snacking on things like tomatoes or biscuits or nuts, or if she decides to have a meal, it will be something like canned soup. My understanding is she doesn’t really know how to cook, but that isn’t something you can judge her for because not everybody does.

She will often go out of her way to make sure her son (my husband) gets food when we are there, but will essentially do the opposite with me. This used to happen even when I was very thin. If we would go out for a meal she would order something “healthy” then try to eat my food and actually verbalise that she won’t take any from her son’s plate because he needs it. She would encourage her son to get the most expensive and substantial option on a menu, and although it has never explicitly been said I always feel that I am supposed to pick something cheap, sometimes based on suggestions she makes but mostly it’s based on experience from eating out with her and the sort of obvious conclusion you can draw from the behaviour when I do get something that isn’t the very cheapest option (she tries to eat my food). Of course it is possible this is all in my head but I am fairly sure it is not.

I feel like there’s an aspect to this which comes from a need to hoard food because food costs money. Or making sure you get your money’s worth (since she paid for the meal). So her son eating is getting your moneys worth, me eating is not. This behaviour extends to other situations but again it’s a bit off topic.

She does offer me what is in her cupboard and fridge but as I say it’s all expired and mouldy. In the same breath she will talk about how to ensure you don’t get hungry by snacking on small amounts of food like sweets and nuts.

On our most recent visit she made her son some food (tinned soup). She did not offer me the same. She then told me to join her while she ran some errands, in what felt like an attempt to distract me from eating. At this point it was late afternoon and I had not had anything to eat all day. She later offered me tomatoes and crackers.

I don’t think I will ever try to “set a boundary” because to some degree it is a lost cause and I don’t want to make her cross, I mostly try to eat before and after seeing her, but sometimes there isn’t time to do that.

OP posts:
WaryGoldSeal · 20/05/2026 09:40

Hi OP- I am a mumsnet lurker but felt compelled to post, I really feel for you as I recognise a lot of myself in how youre rationalising/thinking about this (therapy is seriously one of the best things Ive ever done for myself, apropos of nothing).

PPs telling you to leave or seriously consider the relationship probably feels overwhelming or extreme. You obviously love your partner and youve been together a long time but it seems like a very conflict avoidant dynamic and youve been desensitized to this so this is your 'normal'. I get that. But from your posts, I am gathering that this absolutely bonkers stuff around food is just one example of your MIL's batshit behaviour and is probably the tip of the iceberg.

I appreciate we're only getting a snapshot here. But your partner appears to be more upset that you have brought up his mothers' behaviour to him, than this mothers' actual behaviour to you, that is not ok. He seems to be so downtrodden by her/the dynamic, it might not be an easy road to get him to see this is an issue. The question is do you think with some (limited) time and perhaps an outside POV (couples counselling?) he would be open to change and boundaries?

Please don't wait until you have kids to address this, or do this 'just' because you are thinking about kids. You and your feelings alone are more than enough reason for you and him to set boundaries (and surely he's not enjoying eating mouldy food??). You are deserving of respect and care. Yes its his family but you are his chosen family and partner. You are a team.

On the kids point though, it is a very valid one - this is not just about her food behaviour (although that alone is more than enough!). Will his mother respect you or be caring to you during pregnancy/ postpartum/as a parent? Or will she disrespect you and your partner, do/say whatever she wants, be generally unsafe and toxic and will your husband let her to keep the peace? I can guess the answer and you deserve more than living your life like that.

Ragruggers · 20/05/2026 09:57

My only suggestion is move a very very long way away.Completely nuts and also mentally dangerous for you to be around these people.Never allow your children near them. This will never change your life will be damaged by this behaviour.

illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 10:14

AliCatWalk · 19/05/2026 21:34

@illtellyouwhat What would she do if, in the pineapple fruit salad example, you poked around for a few seconds in your fruit salad, said aloud "oh no, what a shame, mine has that off pineapple in it, that's too bad, seems such a waste" and promptly dumped your portion in the bin? 🙈 So she'll see it will get wasted either way (although it's probably more about some weird power/control thing than the issue of the food quality)?

That being said, if I were you I'd always make sure to eat before going over there and bring your own food to hold you over so that you can pull moves like this without inconveniencing yourself in the process 😇

To answer your question, if I did this, I would be stopped before reaching the bin, told that it's perfectly fine, and my food would be given to someone else in the family who would happily eat it. I usually bypass this by just handing it over to DH. If everyone is all already stuffed, the food would end up in the fridge. Of course there are times after a meal when there are leftovers on people's plates, usually kids' plates, and that sometimes does go in the bin (other times a lovely leftover plate of half eaten boiled carrots and pasta, garnished with saliva, is made) but the idea of throwing away a full plate is just completely off the cards. I could theoretically try but it wouldn't actually happen, if that makes sense? Therefore not worth the hassle/friction (or so I have thought in the past, at least).

Yes on the power/control comment. There are many levels and shades to all this which would be impossible to cover in this thread. I think it all stems from a need for control/power/affirmation of authority and also to some degree a need to be elevated above others. Bu the food stuff seems to be combined with eating disorder.

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illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 10:44

CraftyYankee · 20/05/2026 00:06

OP, I strongly recommend you look into therapy to unpick why you are allowing yourself to be treated like this. The entire dynamic sounds completely unhealthy.

Your DH can't/won't stand up for you to his mother, and is either completely oblivious to how bizarre it is, or is just relieved you are getting the brunt of her weirdness, not him (I'm not sure which of these options are worse).

You are seemingly so desperate to be welcomed and approved of by your DH's family that you aren't saying boo to anyone about these bizarre behaviors by his mother. I understand reading between the lines that you're American, you moved here for him, your family isn't here and so you don't have a support network. Well your DH's family ain't that support network, and it doesn't sound like your DH is doing a sterling job either.

You say it's 80/20 how good the relationship is? You know the shit food saying - if someone offered you a delicious meal that had just five percent shit in it, would you overlook that and be grateful for the delicious 95 percent? This doesn't even rise to that level, and it's making you lose all sense of reality. (There's a bad joke in there about moldy food as well but I don't have the energy to find it)😏

I'm an American, if you couldn't tell, and my MIL is British. Things are different, but there's still a basic level of behaving with respect and kindness. It sounds like you're not getting either of those. From anyone in your DH's family. This is not a British thing, this is a batshit crazy thing. Is this really what you want the rest of your life to look like?

Think about the sunk cost fallacy. Just because you've invested time and energy into this relationship doesn't mean that continuing on the same path is the answer. Think hard about this dynamic before you bring kids into it. Because it is messed up. And you're not talking about protecting your future kids from it, but how it's expected that you'll leave the kids with this batshit Nan on her own.

And remember, once you have those kids, there's no leaving the country without your husband's permission if you do realize how dysfunctional it all is. And you WILL NOT get that permission, so you'll be here navigating the crazy family situation and watching your kids get messed up right along with it.

So yeah, investigate therapy to figure out why you're going along with this insanity. Even if you don't want to get away from it, you need to learn how to say no, set boundaries and protect your future kids. Good luck.

Thank you for this. I do agree that I need therapy, and not just for the issues covered in this thread.

Re this point you made: [DH] is just relieved you are getting the brunt of her weirdness.
Yes. If I say can you please talk to your DM about x (or: if you don't, I will), he will 100% of the time go for the option where I need to raise it with her. Which is fucking weird because sometimes it feels like actually I'm becoming a middleman between them or that you know, the more natural way of things would be for him to just deal with it. So I have to work out how to speak to her about something when you'd think it would be easier if he did it since it's his mum...

On the odd occasion where he does raise something with her himself, he usually significantly waters down the brief. Which then defeats the purpose and invariably leads to some other weird outcome/doesn't solve the problem just messes everything up further so there's more to untangle.

Re the point about leaving future kids with their nan. He is very defensive about her, and will not see any problem with this, referencing how it was the way he or her other grandkids grew up (eating her food) - "and we're all fine" - then pointing to academic or athletic success as evidence.

He could bring something up organically one day [problematic MIL behaviour from childhood], but if I bring that up another day he will say what not true. You could call this gaslighting, which I sometimes do to his face, but I think defensiveness of mother is more accurate in this context.

OP posts:
BuckChuckets · 20/05/2026 11:00

And you still want to bring children into this? It doesn't sound like he's ever going to change, do you genuinely think he can?

ButterYellowFlowers · 20/05/2026 11:12

illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 10:14

To answer your question, if I did this, I would be stopped before reaching the bin, told that it's perfectly fine, and my food would be given to someone else in the family who would happily eat it. I usually bypass this by just handing it over to DH. If everyone is all already stuffed, the food would end up in the fridge. Of course there are times after a meal when there are leftovers on people's plates, usually kids' plates, and that sometimes does go in the bin (other times a lovely leftover plate of half eaten boiled carrots and pasta, garnished with saliva, is made) but the idea of throwing away a full plate is just completely off the cards. I could theoretically try but it wouldn't actually happen, if that makes sense? Therefore not worth the hassle/friction (or so I have thought in the past, at least).

Yes on the power/control comment. There are many levels and shades to all this which would be impossible to cover in this thread. I think it all stems from a need for control/power/affirmation of authority and also to some degree a need to be elevated above others. Bu the food stuff seems to be combined with eating disorder.

Edited

None of this is a British thing btw. My mother would literally throw up if someone tried to serve her gone off food or spitty plate leftovers.

Personally I wouldn’t care what they thought I’d be saying ‘sorry I can’t eat this, it’s expired’ and take my own food. If they get the hump just say different families do things differently but you don’t have their constitution and you’re not going to suffer for it.’

My husband does have an aunt who likes to serve us mouldy jam etc and scrapes the mould off. I just say I don’t do mould.

MsPavlichenko · 20/05/2026 11:17

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 15:41

There are a couple of comments about this. First of all, sometimes he does seem a bit clueless. I think he reverts to a sort of child state around her, which a lot of people do when they are with their parents, me included.

We have been together for quite a long time. I've tried to talk to him about setting boundaries with his mother. I don't think he knows how to do that - with her or with anyone else. It also makes him feel stuck in the middle, which he expresses to me. So whether I have to appease her quirks or tell him to set boundaries, and then try to explain how boundaries are set or what a boundary even is, it's still me doing the leg (and brain) work.

It comes down to: how do you teach a grown man to set boundaries, with his mother no less, without creating friction in their relationship?

If he sets up the appropriate boundaries it might well create friction. That’s entirely due too his DM’s behaviour. Not challenging her is not good for you, or him. Nor your relationship longer term.

Better to tackle this now.

Sparksauty · 20/05/2026 11:44

I beg you: if you go round starving and she won't offer you food. Question it. Ask where your meal is. Say you are hungry so have no option but to either leave to buy yourself some lunch or order in a takeaway. Re. the gone off food, call it out!! Say "oh dear there are so many cans in here that went off years ago, shall I throw away" start addressing things back. Highlight things. Force yourself to- even though yes may be awkward to- but it won't ever change. Its a crazy situation and needs calling out.

godmum56 · 20/05/2026 11:51

"Am quite stressed about the prospect of having kids and having to leave them with their grandparents given these and other issues around food. And I know it will be expected of me that I will agree to do that so that we can go out to dinner/holiday and so on. Not sure how to navigate that at all"

Oh that is easy. Do not have children with this man.

Danascully2 · 20/05/2026 11:58

I think my relative with food/weight issues has got a bit worse if anything as she has got older so please put some strategies in place, this issue isn't going to go away.
I'm quite worried that you are here asking this after such a long time and have been putting up with all this for so long.

Examples off the top of my head of 'normal' conflicts with in laws/families doing things differently
Differing political views,
having TV on all the time vs putting it on for specific programmes/turning it off when visitors are there.
Opening presents first thing on Christmas Day vs later
Whether kids are allowed (non-mouldy!) sweets/cakes/chocolate/tv
Home cooking vs buying ready meals
Preferring handmade stuff vs preferring new stuff.

What you are describing is really really not normal.

HellyR · 20/05/2026 12:50

I don't say this lightly but if she is this dictatorial and your DH is so happy with it, having kids will be an absolute nightmare with her around. Not even for them but for you as well.

You will really need to draw some boundaries and get this sorted out first. And tbh you and DH need to be on the same page about parenting or you are going to have a huge struggle on your hands.

Please do think twice.

WaryGoldSeal · 20/05/2026 13:32

HellyR · 20/05/2026 12:50

I don't say this lightly but if she is this dictatorial and your DH is so happy with it, having kids will be an absolute nightmare with her around. Not even for them but for you as well.

You will really need to draw some boundaries and get this sorted out first. And tbh you and DH need to be on the same page about parenting or you are going to have a huge struggle on your hands.

Please do think twice.

100% this. If your MIL thinks its appropriate to take you to a restaurant and tell you to make babies. Imagine the level of ownership she will think she has over said babies.

You can analyse and try and understand her behaviour until the cows come home but the end result is the same. Her behaviour isnt ok and, I mean this with kindness, neither is your husbands.

illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 13:49

HellyR · 20/05/2026 09:24

What would your husband's reaction be if you showed him this thread?

Anyone tries to dictate what I eat, they're on my shit list for life. Luckily my MIL is an excellent cook and makes tons of lovely stuff for us all when we visit! And we all eat as much as we like! This is how life should be...

First off, I am really happy for you and at the same time very jealous of your MIL situation! 😍

If I showed him this I think he would be upset that I’ve complained about his mum online, that’s a given. Other than that, I don’t know. Maybe the reactions in here to the behaviour described would make him realise he should try to reflect and reevaluate his approach and view but there’s also a chance he goes into complete denial. Might say he’ll do a thread in retaliation about me and my problematic behaviour and issues we’ve had in our relationship, even if they have been overcome 😂

I think therapy for both of us would be good but he is resistant to this because he thinks therapy makes him feel worse. In other words, not comfortable with dealing with his own uncomfortable emotions. Prefers to compartmentalise and suppress.

I don’t know if it’s already been made clear by everything else I’ve said, but from my understanding of their childhood there was a bit of a gap when it comes to emotions/expressions of love (parent to child mainly, but also other way around). In many ways they seem to consider themselves to have been very loved, and he has many fond memories of his childhood. But my read on it is he associates actions with love which are not necessarily that (e.g. approval = love)

I have a different view of this as I received absolutely unconditional love from my parents (and still do).

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 20/05/2026 14:04
  1. This is very strange behaviour on her part;
  2. this is unacceptable behaviour on your DH’s part;
  3. and you need to speak up on your part!!
I have not dealt with anything as bad as this, but when MIL made comments about foodstuffs around my DC I directly contradicted her when they were nonsense. e.g. ‘MIL, strawberries are a healthy food and he can have a large bowlful’ - obviously said at our house in response to a worried comment about not letting him have more than four, as they allegedly make her ill if she has more.

So when she makes comments or asks questions about your weight you need to reply firmly - ‘I’m a healthy weight, MIL, don’t need to lose any more!’

If she pushes back, you go in again, firmly. ‘MIL, there is nothing wrong with my weight.’

Practise saying it with a smile, but a firm look.

I knew my MIL was going to comment on a sleeveless dress I was wearing for a family evening event years ago. Arms are her ‘thing’ as hers have never been slim. So I practised my response and delivered it with a smile, and nothing more was said.

NotTheMrMenAgain · 20/05/2026 15:10

OP, where are your lovely parents, who shower you with love and would never treat you like shit? Do they know about this situation, have you told them? I’m a fair bit older than you and I would be fuming if any one treated my DD like this - the bloody audacity of the woman, to restrict your food for her disordered pleasure!

It’s all very well trying to look for reasons/excuses for this frankly barmy, controlling behaviour, and try to laugh it off - but the truth is that it’s simply not funny.

Yes, you clearly have a MIL problem. But the bigger issue here is your DH problem. You’ve acknowledged that he protects his DM at any cost, then next in priority is protecting himself. Nowhere is he protecting you and standing up for you. He minimises her clearly disordered, strange behaviour and defensively gaslights you when you raise it.

Now, imagine you have a baby. This baby will mean the absolute world to you and you will do anything to keep it safe and make it feel loved. Now, imagine your DH, who is completely spineless when it comes to his DM, acquiescing to every single demand she makes regarding your baby - access to the baby, alone time, sleepovers, etc. She is not going to become less weird and controlling once you’ve provided the grandchild she’s told you she expects/wants.

You know how weird your DH and his sister are about food and their messed up family dynamic? Well, that’s what your baby will be exposed to. That’s how they will possibly turn out, if you don't put a stop to this complete and utter bollocks.

I used to be married to a man who was a bit emotionally stunted and couldn’t discuss issues sensibly. Please note, these men don’t tend to make for great father material and often get worse/more entrenched with age.

I’m not saying leave him/run back home to your parents/don’t have a baby with him. Because that’s not helpful, apparently. So I’m definately NOT saying it.

illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 15:53

Dressfinder · 20/05/2026 09:31

OP do you have a job and your own source of income? If you do, you're the problem here for letting this nuts behaviour go on for so long.
Take control.
If you go out to eat with MIL you simply order what you want and as much of it as you want. If there's any objection, you simply pay for it yourself. If she tries to eat your food you say "Actually, Gertrude, I'm really hungry and want to eat all of my meal. If there's anything on my plate when I'm done I'll be happy for you to eat my leftovers."
When she brings up your weight the appropriate response is "That's very rude of you to say, Martha. As it happens, I'm happy with my weight and it's healthy. I am not trying to lose weight and I will not be in the future. Please don't mention my weight again."
When she offers your husband food and not you, intervene. "Sorry, Dorris, Dave and I are going out for dinner after visiting and don't want to fill up beforehand, but thank you."
And, as I said up-thread, go to visit with a prepared lunchbox for yourself. When she questions it be honest. "Well, Deirdre, you don't usually have enough food for me and I often leave here very hungry, so I've decided to bring my own. Would you like me to pack some extra for you next time?"
She's steamrolling you at every opportunity as a means of control - take control back without making a fuss. Simple statements and actions. No accusations or drama.

Unfortunately, not at the moment. I have been out of a job for a while. Don't want to out myself, or blow my own horn, but I am highly educated, just with a history of really bad luck (MIL is a great example of my bad luck 😂).

Tough climate to find a job right now for lots of reasons that are off topic. But in terms of how this links to MIL: it certainly doesn't help. The control issues now extend to my employment status, me getting a job, where I am looking, how I am looking, what kind of job I should be doing and so on. Is she empathetic about this? She does express pity, but in a way I could very much do without. She asks for updates about my job situation in the same way she asks for updates about my weight. It makes it stressful to prepare to see her, to see her and it takes days to decompress after seeing her.

To summarise: my employment situation makes this more difficult, because I am effectively a dependent. But even before this period of unemployment, we still had to go out for dinner with her, and she still paid for it.

Ps. If anybody knows of any jobs going in London, feel free to DM 😉

Pps. Enjoyed reading your post, @Dressfinder and the names you came up with!

OP posts:
Woodfiresareamazing2 · 20/05/2026 16:05

illtellyouwhat · 20/05/2026 15:53

Unfortunately, not at the moment. I have been out of a job for a while. Don't want to out myself, or blow my own horn, but I am highly educated, just with a history of really bad luck (MIL is a great example of my bad luck 😂).

Tough climate to find a job right now for lots of reasons that are off topic. But in terms of how this links to MIL: it certainly doesn't help. The control issues now extend to my employment status, me getting a job, where I am looking, how I am looking, what kind of job I should be doing and so on. Is she empathetic about this? She does express pity, but in a way I could very much do without. She asks for updates about my job situation in the same way she asks for updates about my weight. It makes it stressful to prepare to see her, to see her and it takes days to decompress after seeing her.

To summarise: my employment situation makes this more difficult, because I am effectively a dependent. But even before this period of unemployment, we still had to go out for dinner with her, and she still paid for it.

Ps. If anybody knows of any jobs going in London, feel free to DM 😉

Pps. Enjoyed reading your post, @Dressfinder and the names you came up with!

I'm sorry for your employment situation, @illtellyouwhat , it's a tough market right now.

But that still doesn't mean you have to go out with her for dinner ...

Just say no.

CraftyYankee · 20/05/2026 17:21

You're laughing and making jokes here, OP, but what are you going to do?!

I'm in London if you need some IRL chat btw, feel free to PM me 😊

Bossbear · 20/05/2026 22:00

Do you have to see her OP? I wouldn't set foot in her mouldy food ridden house.

TorroFerney · 21/05/2026 09:07

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 15:41

There are a couple of comments about this. First of all, sometimes he does seem a bit clueless. I think he reverts to a sort of child state around her, which a lot of people do when they are with their parents, me included.

We have been together for quite a long time. I've tried to talk to him about setting boundaries with his mother. I don't think he knows how to do that - with her or with anyone else. It also makes him feel stuck in the middle, which he expresses to me. So whether I have to appease her quirks or tell him to set boundaries, and then try to explain how boundaries are set or what a boundary even is, it's still me doing the leg (and brain) work.

It comes down to: how do you teach a grown man to set boundaries, with his mother no less, without creating friction in their relationship?

Why is everyone so scared of friction? You can’t have your cake and eat it pardon the pun, she gets told but you don’t get to police or control her reaction.

what about your boundary? Yours with your husband should be if you let your mum act like this towards me and don’t step in then I will not come with you to see her. You can’t make other people set a boundary. You are expecting your husband and mother in law to see the light so that you don’t have to feel uncomfortable. all of which is understandable but that’s not how it works.

OriginalSkang · 21/05/2026 09:13

You say you don't want to make her cross, but you are happy to let her treat you like this? Policing what you eat and your weight when neither is any slight bit of her business?

I know I'm at the other end of the people pleaser scale, so its probably not that relevant, but I couldn't let any of her comments pass without asking her why she is commenting on my weight

FaceIt · 21/05/2026 09:51

Take yourself a packed lunch when you visit. I’m being serious. What you eat is none of her business. She’s obviously got a problem about food but she’s also very rude and ignorant.

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:09

NotTheMrMenAgain · 20/05/2026 15:10

OP, where are your lovely parents, who shower you with love and would never treat you like shit? Do they know about this situation, have you told them? I’m a fair bit older than you and I would be fuming if any one treated my DD like this - the bloody audacity of the woman, to restrict your food for her disordered pleasure!

It’s all very well trying to look for reasons/excuses for this frankly barmy, controlling behaviour, and try to laugh it off - but the truth is that it’s simply not funny.

Yes, you clearly have a MIL problem. But the bigger issue here is your DH problem. You’ve acknowledged that he protects his DM at any cost, then next in priority is protecting himself. Nowhere is he protecting you and standing up for you. He minimises her clearly disordered, strange behaviour and defensively gaslights you when you raise it.

Now, imagine you have a baby. This baby will mean the absolute world to you and you will do anything to keep it safe and make it feel loved. Now, imagine your DH, who is completely spineless when it comes to his DM, acquiescing to every single demand she makes regarding your baby - access to the baby, alone time, sleepovers, etc. She is not going to become less weird and controlling once you’ve provided the grandchild she’s told you she expects/wants.

You know how weird your DH and his sister are about food and their messed up family dynamic? Well, that’s what your baby will be exposed to. That’s how they will possibly turn out, if you don't put a stop to this complete and utter bollocks.

I used to be married to a man who was a bit emotionally stunted and couldn’t discuss issues sensibly. Please note, these men don’t tend to make for great father material and often get worse/more entrenched with age.

I’m not saying leave him/run back home to your parents/don’t have a baby with him. Because that’s not helpful, apparently. So I’m definately NOT saying it.

Edited

Thank you for this specifically @NotTheMrMenAgain

And thank you to all of you for your messages and input. As a result of this thread I have done two things. I've spoken to DH and to my parents.

@CraftyYankee mentioned the point about "your family isn't here and so you don't have a support network." and this is very true and has been a challenge the entire time I've lived in the UK. Sometimes it has made things easier, but a lot of times it makes things harder.

@NotTheMrMenAgain you say you would be fuming if you knew this had happened to your DD and I can understand that. I think this is why I don't always tell my parents about some of the bad things that happen/have happened in my life because I love them very much and I know they love me, so I don't want to protect them from the knowledge of something that I know would hurt them.

Told my parents some of these stories last night, but I had to do it in a very humorous way to not hurt them, and I could see that it particularly hurt my father to hear that I had been going hungry all day. They bough laughed about the absurdity of some of the stories and especially of her eating my/other people's food, and were of course appalled to know she keeps mouldy and out of date food in her fridge. They suggested similar things to what everyone has suggested here, which is to just tell her I'm going to go and get myself some food, or I will not be eating that thank you very much. Underlining that I should not be going hungry.

I said earlier in this thread in response to @BuckChuckets that I would find some way of weaving this into a planning session about future kids. Well I sort of did this... but instead of discretely weaving into a structured conversation I just brought the subject up, and asked why do you think she didn't offer me any food? He said I really don't know. He also said since he had was focused on his work call he didn't realise exactly what was going on which I do think is fair in this particular instance. I also have some faith that I may be able to steer him towards being a bit more aware of this in the future, and to speak up if and when he notices that it is happening.

However, where this gets sticky is when I asked whether he would be happy leaving future kids with her, he got very, very upset and said of course he would "she is my MUM!!!" (he said this a number of times) and then talked about how his nieces and nephews have been left with her when they were children and how they are absolutely fine. I asked him well if we had a daughter would you be okay with your mum asking her about her weight and things like that and he said of course not. Very confusing!!

He then also did a fair bit of mental gymnastics to effectively claim his mother makes the same elaborate meals he does (she really doesn't). This is a bit like comparing boiled pasta with a side of cheese to a lasagna. I don't want to get dragged into whether or not children should be fed boiled pasta with bits of cheese, because it's besides the point. What he did was go into denial.

I won't bore you with the details of the entire conversation but when I pointed out that his mother told me she has recently been teaching her one of her grandchildren, who is pre-school age, methods for ensuring you can keep hunger at bay (spoiler: the answer is NOT eat a meal) he said well thats what you teach kids so they don't get fat. And then he said when he got fat when he was in his teens it was an upsetting experience for him.

So I think there's a very extreme disfunction in their family around food, where they don't eat healthy and nutritious meals as a baseline and instead rely on snacks to keep hunger at bay. There are all sorts of rationalisations around why they don't eat good food, like being individuals and therefore choosing what to eat for themselves or saving money or working a lot: "my protestant work ethic means I don't have time to eat".

When they were children and teenagers, it appears as if this then led to significant weight gain for some of the children and distorted their body image, compounded by their mother pointing out that they were getting fat, which then reinforced the idea that weight loss is something to strive for. This of course doesn't address the, for me, more concerning part around expired and mouldy food.

I'm not now sure how to progress this issue around how to be on the same page regarding future kids. He feels very attacked when I suggest we can't leave our future kids with his DM. He is expecting sleepovers. I think for now perhaps if I focus on ensuring I get the food I need that might create a foundation for establishing rules around any future children.

Thoughts and comments on this are welcome! Thanks again to you all.

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illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:16

FYI there's a typo above that I didn't see in time to edit:

so I don't want to protect them from the knowledge of something that I know would hurt them.

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ButterYellowFlowers · 21/05/2026 12:30

Would getting a book about childhood nutrition and reading out ‘interesting’ (relevant) excerpts perhaps slowly show him that his mother is not correct about what is healthy or normal? She isn’t a dietitian I assume.

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