Feeling devastated after seeing this news about Afghanistan

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I stumbled across this on BBC — https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0q25dwj807o

I can’t stop crying. I feel so incredibly devastated that we live in such an unequal world. I cannot believe in 2026 people have to starve and children die — and girls be sold??? because of hunger. Goodness sake. That’s not right, it’s so inhumane. Seeing the tears on those tiny girls’ eyes and how fearful they are just breaks my heart so much, oh Gosh.

I just really feel sorry for these people who have to live under Taliban and suffer immensely. It’s so heartbreaking. And I know these people are not the only ones unfortunately…I just feel like we all have so much, more than we all need to and I wish we could just help the poor more as a whole world. But that doesn’t bring any profits does it???!

I wish I could do something to help, whatever that may be. Does anyone have a clue about what to do? I’d appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Oh yes, the western world is the reason that girls are being 'married off' (read: forced into sexual slavery) as children or young teenagers, and the sexual exploitation of prepubescent boys is normalised and embedded in society. That never happened before the evil western world got involved

So it’s okay for Afghan men to sell their daughters then? Whats your fucking point

It’s OK folks - Afghani women and girls will all be dead soon enough. iIf starvation doesn’t get them first, the Taliban banning women training as medics and women not being allowed to be treated by men (meaning no access to medical treatment) will.

I’m not religious (just look at what’s done in the name of religion) - but if there was such thing as evil, it comes in the shape of the Taliban.

When I think of the hopelessness and abandonment the women of Afghanistan must feel it makes me weep. And the fear and suffering of those children.

Yes I would rather starve my 5yr old than sell her for sex so that her brothers could eat. I’m the monster.

People cannot understand this was the human default. It took centuries of work for the West to get to this point where we respect the rights of women and girls.

Afghanistan depicts how life was for girls for most of human history, if that depresses you, then you should do everything you can to protect your culture from people like that (the human default)

Actually in the West marriage was always relatively late: mid 20s for girls and late 20s for boys.

So it irritates me when naive Westerners assume that everyone, free of religious or political influence, would choose to live like we do. It is a huge failure, our inability to model the minds of other groups of people. In fact they are happy to trade their daughters to get some sort of advantage. If the West disappeared, the world would get so much worse it would look like hell.

This doesn’t even happen in countries with literal famines going on

Like I never heard about Ethiopians selling their daughters during famine times …

It used to happen IN the Western world so there is no point in claiming any moral high ground for one group over another.

Yeah we don’t do that anymore.

So we can definitely claim the moral high ground over people that sell their daughters to be raped by relatives.

I'm not sure what this has to do with my response to pp. There's literally no connection to what I said at all??

It wasn’t an altruistic gesture, the west spent billions trying to install a puppet government and create a vassal state, it failed

Why do these men go around impregnating women and having lots of children when they know that their children will lead a life of misery and suffering? I would rather starve and end my own life than bring a child into that way of life.
The news is sickening and upsetting to see. Chucking money at the atrocities is not the answer and would probably end up in the wrong hands anyway.
People talk about broken Britain but it’s nowhere near as bad as Afghanistan. Let’s hope it never will be.

Well. Only after the previous regime had been used as a safe base from which to launch a massive terror attack on America. You make it sound like the Russians invading Ukraine just because they want a compliant neighbour.

I agree it wasn’t altruistic though. If it had been they’d have done it years before. It was a better situation for women and children than the Taliban though. Just a shame that not enough Afghan men cared to oppose the Taliban’s return to power.

Because they do not care.
Females are nothing to them.
If men really cared then they wouldn’t keep breeding.
They just don’t care.
It’s so ingrained in everything they do that females are just well- scum? Irrelevant? animals? Low life?
They might like their daughters, a bit, but they really don’t value them. Rather like owning a dog. You might like the dog but it is beneath you. It always comes second.
Also culture and religion. It is seen as masculine to keep breeding.

Not everyone who has a dog thinks “it’s beneath them”. In the western world, dogs are often very much loved and an important part of a family.

Absolutely this!

This! Westerners assume all other people fundamentally have the same values as us but are being oppressed by evil people. Maybe they don’t have or want our values.
Maybe they think their way is better and more virtuous.

Yet they arrive in the Great Britain and bring trauma to British girls - our authorities have access to Danish Statistics on immigrants and rape (easily accessed as they record crime well rather than trying to convince the public all is okay by not recording stats).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74x9ln0y4qo

This young woman raped by Afghan asylum seekers no longer feels safe to go out.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-12423583/Afghan-asylum-seeker-jailed-twice-raping-vulnerable-12-year-old-Albanian-refugee-girl-taxpayer-funded-hotel.html

this shitbag had sympathy as ‘he may not be able to perceive age’.

It's a great example, actually. A person may love their dog, and yet dogs are not considered equal to humans, in intelligence, power, or rights. A dog owner may breed it, sterilise it, lock it up all day, control its behaviour, and train it to behave, and the dog has no say. They are not equal partners – one is the owner, and the other is property. Just like women in Afghanistan.

Except dogs in the UK still have more rights than women in Afghanistan, and are less abused. So not a perfect example!

And the same men know that they could go on to sell their child. If that doesn’t kill their libido or choice to procreate then nothing ever will.

This

what kind of society supports or ignores child rape? It’s literally the most horrific crime to most people, yet here it’s the norm? (and in other countries I know).

The men in power with money there are absolutely disgusting. They let this happen and the silent healthy men who do nothing let it continue.

How many fit and able men fought their way walking days and days to get to the UK and Europe, risked their lives crossing the sea, and now do what? While this is happening to their children and sisters. The lack of fight to save their country is shameful, vs the fight to save their own skin. They’re here in huge numbers, with mobile phones, they can network and plan a resistance. They live safely as refugees in a free society where everyone has a voice and a vote and equality is legally enshrined - and what do they do to help their country? They could band together and return to oust the Taliban - instead they make it easy for them by clearing the way for them and living off UK taxpayers when we can’t afford it. It’s entirely reasonable to be annoyed about it - our public services are crumbling, roads dangerously undriveable and we still host hundreds of thousands of guests seemingly forever?

How odd, did you not feel sympathy towards Jewish male victims of Hitler?
Not all Afghani men are Taliban supporters. I know they're villified in the right wing press here, but yours is a very simplistic argument.

Most of the people didn't even read the article and take in the devastating circumstances this family is facing.... You should be angry to that rather than the family who are facing this terrible choices.

And here is my reply to those who jumped in to blame them ...Are you really concerned about women and children in Afghanistan ..... Are you really? Because if you do your research, you will know once a peaceful and prosperous county is turned into a battle field, armed and ultimately handed over to this terrible regime by USA and the Western countries because they want to have one up on Russians. We have some responsibility in this tragedy and social collapse of this society .... This is not a normal situation at all.

Don't you remember the day USA left Afghanistan, people handing over their babies through the fence so the soldiers can take those kids with them.

Do you remember the person who try to cling to the plane as it was taking off and fallen off the sky... We all left them to this. Where was your concern then?

And there is someone who said why "Muslims all over the world not protesting this or try to help those women and children" ... Don't they see what happens when anyone wants to stand up for injustices like this". Perhaps you forgotten the whole peace marches in support of Palestinians .... Not only those marches are branded as hate marches, banded, people are taken by the police and they blamed them anti Semitic which is a total BS".

Where are you on the GeN0cide in Palestine? Because it is easy to blame the "Dad". Let's see how far your concern goes?

I am not making any excuse for any human rights violence and this is one, kids are not for sale....and noone should be going through something like this in 21st century anywhere in the world. However, I am sick of people saying "I would never do this or that" without thinking what push people to those specific circumstances and our part in those tragedies.

They are trying to find work... They are doomed if they stay and fight for stale bread and jobs that doesn't pay enough ... They are doomed if they try to leave and find work outside of Afghanistan... They are doomed if they join to the resistance and fight for their freedom, they are doomed if they don't... You look down on them for accepting aid, or needing the aid ....

Some of you probably think foreign aid is bad ... Some of you want to shoot the boats ..... Full of people who are trying to escape this ? So what are we really offering them, is there hope?

I wish you what you wish for those people, "the mum, the dad, the children" ....because you can't pick and choose your victim when society collapsed and pushed to the poverty and hopelessness like this.

How is that situation at all similar?

A more equivalent comparison would be that one has no sympathy to spare for the suffering of ordinary Germans who weren't targeted by Hitler, during the Holocaust and war.

Because all relatives are equally poor or dead? I condemn what Afghanistan’s fanatics have brought in to their own country but this comment really falls in line with Mary Antoniette asking why France couldn’t eat cake when its people didn’t have bread to eat.

But back to the original post… I also condemn people who “cannot stop crying” about horrible things happening abroad when they don’t lift a finger to change things there or here. Girls are being sold/trafficked in every city of the world, I bet people who really care are not sitting on their arses claiming they are not being able to stop crying, they are out there finding ways to change the status quo.

Where was your concern then?

I remember that happening, and being horrified and disgusted at the US and other western forces for pulling out. I remember ranting to my DH, asking why the hell the world was allowing this to happen - that it was the biggest crime against humanity in decades, to sentence millions of women to being treated like cattle, and no one seemed to give a shit. I'm still so fucking angry about the sheer callous, misogynistic injustice of it.

But do you know who is responsible for enacting the misogyny and horrors of Afghanistan? It's not the western world. It's Afghani men.

A relative bought the girl to marry to his son. So in this case, the relative did have the money.