To think that the next election will be Reform v Greens and we need hard hats to survive?

[Noras]

I just want a stable country and would take any political party with middle of the ground policies. I wish that KS had been left to get on with things. I did not like some policies eg NI increases and additional taxes on rental income but so be it. As long as the economy could be stable and grow we can overcome that. Instead we have a party that had a large majority now in Civil War. KS can only give away but not reduce spending and as a consequence, taxes have risen hugely eg via fiscal drag or on non working (investment) income tax .

I want to see a government with a clear plan to increase productivity and make us more successful as a country.

instead Reform and Greens offer none of that but this is our future, shudder!

Next election is most likely to go Conservative with a coalition - so no.

There will be notable votes for Labour, Greens, Reform, Lib Dems sure but it's always a Labour/ Conservative flip flop in the end.

People will vote who they need to to ensure it isn't Reform overall and they will win.

A coalition with who though? Not the Lib Dems again, so Farage?

Why not with the Liberal Democrats again?

Just can’t see Ed Davey doing it.

No, I don't. I might be wrong but, at the moment, although the greens are polling well in terms of the % people prepared to vote for them, that the distribution of those votes represents being very well liked in small pockets of the country, so the MRP polls demonstrates that, unless they enjoy broader appeal over the coming years, then they won't return enough seats to be a front runner in the next general election.

Sorry but Greens won’t be part of the contest at all. I hate Reform they are so toxic and Greens are toxic but on the far left! The cracks in Green Party are starting to show - they are a show pony party that has pandered to Pro Palestine movement to get votes.

Which is why they are colloquially known as the Gaza party.

In our Local Authority Council election, all the seats previously held by the Green Party were taken by Lib Dems. We have no Green Party councillors now.

YABU - the next General Election will not be Reform v Greens.

Yes they did well in the local elections, more so Reform than Green party candidates, but that won't necessarily translate to a GE. People are more likely to give "protest" votes against the establishment at local elections.

Labour aren't helping themselves with their current infighting but I still think the next government will be either Conservative or Labour - possibly with a Lib Dem coalition.

@TwinklyGoldPeeryep! Will never get behind a party or MP who pretends to all for human rights but never calls out HAMAS or the depraved sexual violence that happened on 7th October. As a woman and a mother of a daughter they will never have my vote - bunch of hypocrites

Ĺabour will be getting nowhere near power again. This is the end of the party as we know it.

I have a hunch that a lot of people who voted in the recent elections just wanted a change, any change, so voted for whoever wasn't in power. My London borough, which has been Labour since the dawn of time, now has a Green Mayor and a vast majority of Green councillors. In other places it was Reform who benefited. Interesting that in your council it was the sitting Greens who were chucked out.

If I'm being optimistic, I think that by the time of the next General Election, which is over three years off still, people will have had time to see how these protest votes have worked out. People who voted Reform in some misguided belief that their local council could somehow stop the boats when in fact they should have been voting for whoever would best sort out potholes and bin collections might perhaps find that the inexperienced councillors have not done a great job locally, so why trust them to try to sort out the country?

If I'm being pessimistic, maybe people will continue to vote on soundbites and in response to fact-free campaigns on social media.

In your opinion.

In my opinion Labour haven't been as bad as the Tories were when they were in power and they were allowed by the electorate to continue well past their sell by date.

Though I do think the Conservatives are probably more likely to get in at the next General Election than Labour (horrific as they were last time they were in power). I think Kemi is a good leader for them and Labour seem to be struggling on the leadership front.

It won’t happen because the average person doesn’t understand basic economics and has no concept of the problems or what’s needed to fix it. The rot set in when people voted for George Osbourn Tory austerity. There was no investment in infrastructure, only harm done to the UK’s long term prospects.

Exactly. It's quite puzzling when people say they detest Reform because of its misogyny and racism yet will give their support to a party who holds both those traits and more. Putting a gay Jewish bloke right up on their platform was a genius move which only the deluded can't see through.

I actually think it's far too early to write off Labour or even the Tories, although it does look likely neither of them will get a majority so the possible outcomes are Reform minority government; Reform-Tory coalition; Labour-Green-LibDem coalition.

The Greens will likely increase considerably from their current 5 MPs but they are nowhere near a majority or even being the major party in coalition.

Reform are flavour of the month but their poll ratings have dropped considerably over the last year, and there's three years to go.

As an aside, one possible silver lining of all this instability is that we may get PR if Labour under Burnham sign up to it to get the Greens onside. And then have actual representative democracy rather than the farce we have currently.

I'm not sure why you're so worried about Labour. They're not in civil war they're just about to have a leadership contest. And Burnham is hardly a radical; they'll likely proceed in much the same way afterwards but with a bit more decisiveness and different branding.

Reform have peaked. The corruption and racism will put off the more centrist voters they still need. The Tories seem to be coming back to split the vote for them.

Some people don't see antisemitism as the sort of racism that is really concerning - because of who it mostly affects.

Like Diane Abbott?

Yep agree with that which is why hiding behind 'anti' zionism is allowed to continue. The hypocrites would throw the book at any other form of blatant racism.

I agree and think that both Reform and the Greens success probably peaked at the recent local elections. All sorts of things are coming out now about both parties as the media has scented blood.

It's still at least a couple of years until the GE, plenty of time for more analysis of the more extremist element/policies of both Reform and the Green party. In the end, the British public always seem to prefer their PMs to revert to the centre and be not too left wing, not too right wing.

Can you be more specific as to what you are referring to?

Probably when she said that antisemitism wasn't as bad as racism per se because Jews aren't visibly Jewish. She quite rightly received a backlash for it.

Time to get an Irish passport and go live in the EU?

She lost the whip a few years ago for an article she wrote in the Observer that claimed that Jews don't experience racism.