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AIBU?

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AIBU? Dinner dramas!

52 replies

SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 09:09

So for reasons I won't go into my ex husband is staying with us at the moment to help with my 2 teens.

I cook from scratch for us all every night and do all the cleaning up. No problem, it's my choice. He is paying half of the grocery bill.

Yesterday I took my youngest and her friend to London for some shopping and a fun activity as well as a meal. We would be gone all day returning about 9pm.

Normally, my eldest would sort themselves out re: food.

At 7pm my ex phoned to ask if he 'needed to feed' our eldest. I said it was up to him as she could feed herself perfectly well. But obviously as I wasn't there I wasn't cooking. He then went on to enquire exactly what we were doing about food, queuing if he should get a takeaway or if I had any suggestions. He didn't want to take anything from the fridge in case I needed it for a meal, (despite knowing I would be going shopping the next day) and then checking if I would be bringing food home for them. He didn't want to get a takeaway if I was planning to cook which he surely knows I'm going to start at 9pm+ after a long day.

AIBU that he should have just been able to get on with it without my input and I should be allowed 1 day off the mental load of organising everything. I was exhausted at this point by a long day out which obviously I had planned and executed without his help. He called me a stress head for wanting him to organise himself for once! I'm autistic too and have a lot of anxiety so the day out took a lot of my energy.

YANBU - no need for him to contact me, should make decisions independently
YABU - it is fair enough to try and plan around each other and warranted a phone call to micromanage every detail of what we were doing and discuss what they could do.

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Sunisgettinganewhaton · 15/05/2026 09:10

Presumably he is an ex for good reason so don't be surprised he hasn't morphed into a decent human being.

TheChosenTwo · 15/05/2026 09:11

Somewhere inbetween your options - a quick check to see if it was okay if he sorted dinner for dc (or for them to sort themself out) to make sure you didn’t come back with food for them.

Katemax82 · 15/05/2026 09:13

My husband would be the same...or simply starve to death if I wasn't there to cook for him

ChocolateApples · 15/05/2026 09:16

I can see wanting to check in with you to see if there was any plan he might be messing up. As an ex he's probably very aware that he's on your territory so there is potential for awkwardness. I would just answer the questions factually so he can make a sensible decision.

BarbiesDreamHome · 15/05/2026 09:19

Well, hes your ex, not your partner and, in your words, he's there to "help" with the teens so he was asking what needed doing for the teen with him.

Did you make clear you would both be out all day and night?

Even if I was sharing a holiday home with a friend I'd say what we were doing for the day and expected times home, so if you didn't do that then yabu. But if you did say you and dd would be out all day and evening then yanbu because he could have spoken to eldest.

I'd give the benefit of the doubt that he isn't trying to overstep, unless you know otherwise? In which case you need to revisit the living arrangement.

TheSmallAssassin · 15/05/2026 09:21

Bit of a loaded question there 😂

I think it's probably quite hard to navigate the situation, so would cut him some slack.

Pinribbons · 15/05/2026 09:22

Of course he should have been able to organise it, but it seems like he was very concerned about getting it wrong (not wanting to use stuff you had plans for). Is it possible, whatever he'd done would have been wrong?

Lomonald · 15/05/2026 09:24

I think if you are living like this with you doing everything for him then he is going to wonder what to do because you are not doing it, isn't it called weaponised incompetence or something?
Of course he should be able to cope but imo this set up is only working for him he doesn't have to think or make a decision.

PinkNailPolish2026 · 15/05/2026 09:24

He’s an adult and should have (a) cooked or (b) got a takeaway, your other child could easily have sorted themselves out if they didn’t want what he was cooking or having as a takeaway. There was no need to contact you, no wonder he’s an ex. To the poster who said upthread their husband would starve if they weren’t in if he was mine he’d be fading away to a shadow if that was the case.

DilemmaDelilah · 15/05/2026 09:25

You definitely should not have had to make any food for them or the thinking for them.... However you should have spoken to, or left a note for, either your ex or your eldest to let them know what to do. A simple - 'make yourselves supper, you can use anything in the fridge' would have done the job.

My adult daughter visits for a few days several times a year. If I'm not going to be in for a meal them that's what I do. I might suggest a couple of things, or ask her not to use anything I have specifically earmarked for use, but that's as far as I would go.

Lomonald · 15/05/2026 09:26

Next time just communicate to your child that they need to sort themselves out for dinner then he wont be phoning you.

Bestnottalkaboutit · 15/05/2026 09:28

As the chef/shopper/meal planner/fridge CEO in our house, when I am out late/not cooking, I make sure there is stuff in for a meal for whoever is home and let them know what/where it is.

Saves the calls about ‘can I use the pork/broccoli/garlic bread/leftovers’ - everyone well trained about not using potential ingredients for another meal…...

Bestnottalkaboutit · 15/05/2026 09:31

Depending on the dynamic, also remember that it is not really his house if he is only staying with you on a temporary basis?

As a ‘guest’, it is probably polite to ask rather than risk getting it wrong. I would ask too in this situation, purely out of respect for someone else’s fridge contents!

Heronwatcher · 15/05/2026 09:37

I’m torn. It sort of sounds like he was a bit worried about doing it wrong. Plus this is very much your territory in all senses.

I probably would just have responded “We’ll sort ourselves, yes please do do something for Ben, fine to use anything from the fridge or get takeaway.” And then ignored anything I thought was a stupid question!

Getmeacoffeenow · 15/05/2026 09:40

This sounds like a lot of hot air over nothing.

Walker1178 · 15/05/2026 10:12

Probably somewhere in between for me too. I meal plan for the week and usually cook most nights. If that’s not going to be the case I’ll give DP a heads up of what is there for him to make or whether he needs to grab a takeaway. It’s not that hard to let them know the deal and it saves him messing up future plans or food just going to waste

SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 10:42

BarbiesDreamHome · 15/05/2026 09:19

Well, hes your ex, not your partner and, in your words, he's there to "help" with the teens so he was asking what needed doing for the teen with him.

Did you make clear you would both be out all day and night?

Even if I was sharing a holiday home with a friend I'd say what we were doing for the day and expected times home, so if you didn't do that then yabu. But if you did say you and dd would be out all day and evening then yanbu because he could have spoken to eldest.

I'd give the benefit of the doubt that he isn't trying to overstep, unless you know otherwise? In which case you need to revisit the living arrangement.

Edited

Not here to help in that way.

Yes, he knew we would be out til late. And it was already late when he phoned!

Yes, you are probably right. Just all the micromanaging especially around food is getting to me!

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SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 10:46

Pinribbons · 15/05/2026 09:22

Of course he should have been able to organise it, but it seems like he was very concerned about getting it wrong (not wanting to use stuff you had plans for). Is it possible, whatever he'd done would have been wrong?

Perhaps he thinks that. But I really don't care what he does. There were lots of leftovers in the fridge, lots of easy things like eggs and bread and baked beans. Loads of fruit and snacks and I'm shopping today. Whenever he asks about food I just say help yourself - you're paying for half of it. I really can't think of what he could have done that was 'wrong'.

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SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 10:50

DilemmaDelilah · 15/05/2026 09:25

You definitely should not have had to make any food for them or the thinking for them.... However you should have spoken to, or left a note for, either your ex or your eldest to let them know what to do. A simple - 'make yourselves supper, you can use anything in the fridge' would have done the job.

My adult daughter visits for a few days several times a year. If I'm not going to be in for a meal them that's what I do. I might suggest a couple of things, or ask her not to use anything I have specifically earmarked for use, but that's as far as I would go.

My eldest wouldn't need a note, she can sort herself out. And I thought ex could manage too. The fact we weren't going to be home for dinner was a clue that he would need to make his own dinner. Nothing needs to be saved as I'm shopping today.

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WhatAMarvelousTune · 15/05/2026 10:52

If I was staying with someone who was sorting all the meals, I’d probably check with them before cooking, in case they either had plans for that night, or plans for the food that I’d be messing up by eating it.

But I can also see why you were irritated by it.

SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 10:54

Lomonald · 15/05/2026 09:26

Next time just communicate to your child that they need to sort themselves out for dinner then he wont be phoning you.

My child already knew that. I wasn't going to be home for dinner so she needed to make her own food. He also knew we wouldn't be home for dinner so seemed obvious I won't be cooking, Maybe I need to spell things out more. Seems like what you would do for a younger child, not an adult, though!

And believe me I'm sure there would have been something to ring me about!

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Lomonald · 15/05/2026 11:21

SummerBreeze1980 · 15/05/2026 10:54

My child already knew that. I wasn't going to be home for dinner so she needed to make her own food. He also knew we wouldn't be home for dinner so seemed obvious I won't be cooking, Maybe I need to spell things out more. Seems like what you would do for a younger child, not an adult, though!

And believe me I'm sure there would have been something to ring me about!

You need to block him or cut the conversation short , it is obviously none of my bussiness why he is still living with you, but he isn't your husband you don't owe him any of your personal time, the lines are blurred you need to find your line.

Aliceinmunsnetland · 15/05/2026 11:29

Lomonald · 15/05/2026 09:24

I think if you are living like this with you doing everything for him then he is going to wonder what to do because you are not doing it, isn't it called weaponised incompetence or something?
Of course he should be able to cope but imo this set up is only working for him he doesn't have to think or make a decision.

Sounds like he thinks as OP is his mum.
He's supposed to be an adult and presume he works, how do these hopeless men manage in the real world? I sometimes think it's because they are molly coddled so much into teens and possibly early 20's ususally by over indulgent mothers.

Lomonald · 15/05/2026 11:32

Aliceinmunsnetland · 15/05/2026 11:29

Sounds like he thinks as OP is his mum.
He's supposed to be an adult and presume he works, how do these hopeless men manage in the real world? I sometimes think it's because they are molly coddled so much into teens and possibly early 20's ususally by over indulgent mothers.

I have no idea, he sounds absolutely useless and unmotivated.

honeylulu · 15/05/2026 11:42

I'm usually very scathing about male strategic incompetence but here it doesn't seem too bad.

He wanted to check he wouldn't be annoying you by using stuff from fridge you needed for something else.
He wanted to check you aren't planning on cooking (yes 9pm is late but it's not unknown to knock up a quick meal at that time in our house).
He didn't want to waste spare food from the fridge by getting a takeaway.

The annoying thing is asking you to do the thinking. But he's also a guest and I can promise you it's really annoying to have guests who raid your supplies without asking and mess up your meal planning. We once told a babysitter to help herself to snacks (ie crisps, biscuits, fruit) and returned home to find she had cooked and eaten two chicken breasts and half a pack of bacon plus left the pans dumped in the sink for us to wash. Just a tad annoying!

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