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Skippp · 13/05/2026 06:04

I work in finance and this country is on the brink of collapse. It’s spending too much, it’s not growing the economy and needs someone to come in and make good decisions quickly if we are to survive. It’s in a really serious state now and action must be taken. I’vote Labour, and did so hoping Keir would be brave enough to take the hard decisions needed but he’s been a pathetic wet blanket. We need a government who:

  1. get rid of the triple lock. It’s laughably unaffordable.
  2. reassess the whole benefits system and get rid of disability payments for anything but the most severe conditions, increasing the amounts to those who have these conditions.
  3. restrict benefit payments to those born outwith the UK to those that have been in full time work for a large proportion of their adult lives here.
  4. Reduce the minimum wage to help companies hire again.
  5. Reduce housing benefit. People will have to move to somewhere cheaper or landlords will have to drop prices to what people can afford.
  6. Go to an insurance backed healthcare system like they enjoy in Europe.
  7. Ditch 95% of planning regulation and get Britain building again.
  8. ditch net zero. No one is going to run a successful business in a country with the highest energy costs on the planet.
  9. Reopen Scotland oil and gas production (inc refineries) and explore for more areas.
  10. Simplify income taxes. Roll income tax into NICs. Give everyone child care hours, child benefit, personal allowance and increase tax rates to pay for this. Stop artificially restricting people from earning more.
  11. Simplify VAT. Drop the threshold to £20k to ensure no one has a ceiling on earnings.
  12. Simplify IHT. 5% on everything. No nil rates or exemptions.
  13. rejoin the single market and customs union.
  14. Explain policies better! Tell people how unaffordable the triple lock etc is. Tell them what the single market and customs union non is and why you’re rejoining. Tell people what the ‘bond markets’ are and why they’re important. Tell people why paying for rich people’s child care is much better for the economy than forcing high earners to drop their hours.
  15. Probably ought to start deporting economic migrants with no right to stay quickler to throw some red meat to reform voters.

We need a party to take on ALL of these policies and move AT PACE on them. Who’s the party that will do this? I thought it was Labour but BOY was I wrong on that!

What are people adding to the list?

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Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:43

Skippp · 13/05/2026 08:48

I am. Previously the council ran children’s homes. Council budgets were cut to the extent that they flogged off all of their assets to get by in the short term. They closed children’s homes and sold the buildings, outsourced the service that they had to supply to private equity companies who now charge a small fortune. Far more expensive than what went before.

see also care homes and special schools.

This too

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:44

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:24

Things like DLA/PIP/ADP are what keep some disabled people in work... and yes even very severely disabled ones. Some people need to let go of thinking you are only severely disabled if you are hooked up to tubes in bed 24/7.
Also, no benefit is awarded based on a condition.

Reducing NMW makes no sense when people working full time on NMW are still getting UC to live. What that will achieve is more being paid out in UC. How does that make sense?

Reducing housing benefit also makes no sense. Do you know about the difference between LHA and market rents anyway? Where I live, it is about £150pm. A single adult on £400pm UC would have to pay that. How would they afford to live?
Also, the problem of moving all the "poor" people to areas that are cheap. It seems a bit snobby to me.. NIMBY even.

if someone is earning, a 3rd party other than the government is paying them money. The government then needs to pay them less money than they did when the person wasn’t working. Thats why it benefits the state to get people into people work. Reduce minimum wage, make it more viable for employers to recruit, get more people into work, if they’re paid too little to live off give them top ups but it’s still better that than the government paying then while they are economically inactive.

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XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:47

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:44

if someone is earning, a 3rd party other than the government is paying them money. The government then needs to pay them less money than they did when the person wasn’t working. Thats why it benefits the state to get people into people work. Reduce minimum wage, make it more viable for employers to recruit, get more people into work, if they’re paid too little to live off give them top ups but it’s still better that than the government paying then while they are economically inactive.

You do realise that people work in public sector jobs (so are paid by the government) and still need UC top ups.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:48

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:44

if someone is earning, a 3rd party other than the government is paying them money. The government then needs to pay them less money than they did when the person wasn’t working. Thats why it benefits the state to get people into people work. Reduce minimum wage, make it more viable for employers to recruit, get more people into work, if they’re paid too little to live off give them top ups but it’s still better that than the government paying then while they are economically inactive.

Yes...it's difficult as one has to balance the imperative for people to be paid a humane wage with inflation and the crisis for small businesses..
I think your suggested solution might be the best. In the Great Depression Roosevelt was criticised for creating jobs to keep people in work but he argued it kept people in the habit of work. I would argue similar probably applies here.

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:49

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:37

Yes , this. I mean, I'd argue that it's important for a mother to be able to spend care for children that young and so it shouldn't be seen as a 'handout' for her to be supported to do that to some extent,anymore than a SAHM with a husband supporting her should be admonished for not working.

What about the single mother with a mortgage to pay. She goes out to work because she’s hot no option. Why on earth should we facilitate one single mother to stay at home with the kids when that’s not an option for other single mothers. Yes it’s legal for the woman to stay at home with the kids but it shouldn’t be!

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Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:50

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:47

You do realise that people work in public sector jobs (so are paid by the government) and still need UC top ups.

Yes. And that’s FAR better for the economy than them sitting at home all day. FAR BETTER!

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Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:51

Another factor with housing : my street has 3 houses where the owners own second homes and are not here most of the time. Plenty of central London houses are owner by overseas people. Netherlands I think have passed laws severely restricting overseas buyers of second homes. I think we need to do this.

MsAmerica · 13/05/2026 22:52

What I'll add to the list is that this belongs in the Politics forum.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:53

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:51

Another factor with housing : my street has 3 houses where the owners own second homes and are not here most of the time. Plenty of central London houses are owner by overseas people. Netherlands I think have passed laws severely restricting overseas buyers of second homes. I think we need to do this.

We have large numbers of empty homes too.

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:56

I don’t know why we allow overseas investors to buy uk property. Fine if people are working full time here. Otherwise we should ban it.

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ruethewhirl · 13/05/2026 23:20

WhitegreeNcandle · 13/05/2026 19:23

But it doesn’t work. When the NMW goes up the cost of your supermarket food goes up because all the farm workers, warehouse staff, packing staff and shop workers are on that and it just gets added to the cost of the goods.

And when that’s too high we just import it from places that don’t have the labour laws or welfare laws we have. Eg at the moment the UK allows Ukrainian egg to be imported without tariffs. Their costs are so much lower than ours because they are using the cage systems banned here that were sold over there.

So you’re happy for people to not be paid enough to live on?

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 23:22

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:49

What about the single mother with a mortgage to pay. She goes out to work because she’s hot no option. Why on earth should we facilitate one single mother to stay at home with the kids when that’s not an option for other single mothers. Yes it’s legal for the woman to stay at home with the kids but it shouldn’t be!

Actually, the single mum on that thread did not really say anything apart from the ages of her kids, the hours she was doing, her intentions on working more, and that her ex was an abusive asshole.
She said nothing about her housing situation.

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 23:23

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:50

Yes. And that’s FAR better for the economy than them sitting at home all day. FAR BETTER!

Um , you said that anyone earning is not earning from the gov. Make your mind up.

Pigeonpoodle · 13/05/2026 23:29

tramtracks · 13/05/2026 09:20

All of the above - brilliant list. Not rocket science. If all the parties stopped trying to satisfy their party members and mps rather than doing what would be good for the country we’d all be a lot better off.

I would add making coding/AI related knowledge compulsory in schools. Make it as essential as maths and English. Everyone needing to take a gcse in it.

I would add basic economics to the list. If we’re going to have a democracy, then those that vote should at least have an inkling of how the country’s finances work. Most people know nothing, or think they know a lot, but are actually completely ignorant…

Pigeonpoodle · 13/05/2026 23:37

SomeOtherUser · 13/05/2026 21:44

Rejoin the EU.

I'm baffled at those that want to "ditch net zero" and the like. If you're worried about the economy, come back to this question in 20 years when millions of people will be packed in the few places in the world (which, if the AMOC collapses, may not include the UK) that are still comfortably liveable. I envy those that are not lying sleepless at night worrying about these things!

I believe Climate Change is a risk, but to say that only pockets of the world will be liveable because it will be too hot is ridiculous. Just as some places on the extremes might get too hot, some colder places might become more bearable, Scotland for instance.

Needaglowup · 13/05/2026 23:40

Well I know what background you come for ,

youalright · 14/05/2026 06:10

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:44

if someone is earning, a 3rd party other than the government is paying them money. The government then needs to pay them less money than they did when the person wasn’t working. Thats why it benefits the state to get people into people work. Reduce minimum wage, make it more viable for employers to recruit, get more people into work, if they’re paid too little to live off give them top ups but it’s still better that than the government paying then while they are economically inactive.

Would you be OK with your wage being lowered?

LifesAPageTurner · 14/05/2026 06:17

There is absolutely no way you voted Labour with those views 😆

youalright · 14/05/2026 06:54

LifesAPageTurner · 14/05/2026 06:17

There is absolutely no way you voted Labour with those views 😆

Well if she did she clearly doesn't know anything about politics and doesn't grasp what labour stand for.

WhitegreeNcandle · 14/05/2026 06:55

ruethewhirl · 13/05/2026 23:20

So you’re happy for people to not be paid enough to live on?

Not at all. I’m not quite sure what the answer is. I just get frustrated when people say it’s all down the greedy employers. In many many cases that’s just not true.

despite the supermarkets running our costings so lean we try to save elsewhere and pay the staff more. Not much more but more.

What I do see is a huge explosion of people who just don’t want to work. We’ve been in business for over 20 years. People are so open about how they are just here for the interview for the job coach. So many people are happy to work part time and have UC top up when full time hours are available. So many people struggle with mild depression and think months off sick will help. Every second young person has got a diagnosis, many of whom claim PIP. Tell the older staff about it who, if we’re honest probably have similar conditions but have managed working full time for a lifetime and now have huge resentment to the younger generations. Lives are so complicated. Dad’s not paying is a huge issue I can’t believe we accept as a society.

Pigeonpoodle · 14/05/2026 07:01

LifesAPageTurner · 14/05/2026 06:17

There is absolutely no way you voted Labour with those views 😆

I voted Labour with similar views. It was a big mistake, and I apologise the everyone for my vote … Labour were effectively a blank canvas that many people voted for because they believed the Tories needed to go.

Labour were cowards before the election. They could have run on a platform of real change, and still won - in fact they’d likely have won more decisively if they had - but they put themselves a straight-jacket on taxes etc in an attempt to glide into power without upsetting anyone. Then they got into power, and unlike the early days of 1997 Labour, there was nothing of any substance; as though they didn’t know what to do now they had power.

Such a crushing disappointment. That’s on Starmer and Reeves.

youalright · 14/05/2026 07:04

WhitegreeNcandle · 14/05/2026 06:55

Not at all. I’m not quite sure what the answer is. I just get frustrated when people say it’s all down the greedy employers. In many many cases that’s just not true.

despite the supermarkets running our costings so lean we try to save elsewhere and pay the staff more. Not much more but more.

What I do see is a huge explosion of people who just don’t want to work. We’ve been in business for over 20 years. People are so open about how they are just here for the interview for the job coach. So many people are happy to work part time and have UC top up when full time hours are available. So many people struggle with mild depression and think months off sick will help. Every second young person has got a diagnosis, many of whom claim PIP. Tell the older staff about it who, if we’re honest probably have similar conditions but have managed working full time for a lifetime and now have huge resentment to the younger generations. Lives are so complicated. Dad’s not paying is a huge issue I can’t believe we accept as a society.

Pip isn't an out of work benefit i work and claim pip. And nobody is getting pip for mild depression

TeenagersAngst · 14/05/2026 07:10

WhitegreeNcandle · 14/05/2026 06:55

Not at all. I’m not quite sure what the answer is. I just get frustrated when people say it’s all down the greedy employers. In many many cases that’s just not true.

despite the supermarkets running our costings so lean we try to save elsewhere and pay the staff more. Not much more but more.

What I do see is a huge explosion of people who just don’t want to work. We’ve been in business for over 20 years. People are so open about how they are just here for the interview for the job coach. So many people are happy to work part time and have UC top up when full time hours are available. So many people struggle with mild depression and think months off sick will help. Every second young person has got a diagnosis, many of whom claim PIP. Tell the older staff about it who, if we’re honest probably have similar conditions but have managed working full time for a lifetime and now have huge resentment to the younger generations. Lives are so complicated. Dad’s not paying is a huge issue I can’t believe we accept as a society.

Your last sentence is spot on. Dads not paying should be illegal.

Pigeonpoodle · 14/05/2026 07:10

FairCat · 13/05/2026 12:45

In what way does the triple lock make pensions rise above economic growth? It is designed specifically to preserve the purchasing value of the state pension, no more.

If politicians want to renege on the state pension that's fine, so long as they return the NI payments with interest. I've had a long and relatively successful career and if even 50% of my NI had been invested I'd have many times more than the meagre state pension is worth. Bring it on.

You’ve clearly not taken any time to understand what the triple lock actually is to write that. @TeenagersAngst explained very concisely in an earlier post.

It’s no wonder we have a hopeless Government if people who vote for them are so ignorant whilst believing they nonsense.