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Skippp · 13/05/2026 06:04

I work in finance and this country is on the brink of collapse. It’s spending too much, it’s not growing the economy and needs someone to come in and make good decisions quickly if we are to survive. It’s in a really serious state now and action must be taken. I’vote Labour, and did so hoping Keir would be brave enough to take the hard decisions needed but he’s been a pathetic wet blanket. We need a government who:

  1. get rid of the triple lock. It’s laughably unaffordable.
  2. reassess the whole benefits system and get rid of disability payments for anything but the most severe conditions, increasing the amounts to those who have these conditions.
  3. restrict benefit payments to those born outwith the UK to those that have been in full time work for a large proportion of their adult lives here.
  4. Reduce the minimum wage to help companies hire again.
  5. Reduce housing benefit. People will have to move to somewhere cheaper or landlords will have to drop prices to what people can afford.
  6. Go to an insurance backed healthcare system like they enjoy in Europe.
  7. Ditch 95% of planning regulation and get Britain building again.
  8. ditch net zero. No one is going to run a successful business in a country with the highest energy costs on the planet.
  9. Reopen Scotland oil and gas production (inc refineries) and explore for more areas.
  10. Simplify income taxes. Roll income tax into NICs. Give everyone child care hours, child benefit, personal allowance and increase tax rates to pay for this. Stop artificially restricting people from earning more.
  11. Simplify VAT. Drop the threshold to £20k to ensure no one has a ceiling on earnings.
  12. Simplify IHT. 5% on everything. No nil rates or exemptions.
  13. rejoin the single market and customs union.
  14. Explain policies better! Tell people how unaffordable the triple lock etc is. Tell them what the single market and customs union non is and why you’re rejoining. Tell people what the ‘bond markets’ are and why they’re important. Tell people why paying for rich people’s child care is much better for the economy than forcing high earners to drop their hours.
  15. Probably ought to start deporting economic migrants with no right to stay quickler to throw some red meat to reform voters.

We need a party to take on ALL of these policies and move AT PACE on them. Who’s the party that will do this? I thought it was Labour but BOY was I wrong on that!

What are people adding to the list?

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 13/05/2026 21:29

Skippp · 13/05/2026 12:50

There is no other discernible reason why to vote for the SNP. They have taken income of over £2k a head more than that of England and somehow managed to produce WORSE public services.

So you genuinely believe that about 35% of the voting public in Scotland are English-hating bigots?

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 21:36

Skippp · 13/05/2026 21:26

Disability Benefits are a huge outlier in the UKthough. In the tax year 2019-20 we spent £14bn on PIP. The equivalent now is £25bn and it’s forecast to rise to £32bn in 2029-30 (all real terms rates). That’s just not at all feasible. In other EU countries similar disability benefits rose during covid and have now dropped back to pre Covid rates. That drop hasn’t happened here. Instead disability rates have soared. What is going on? Have we got 2.5 x sicker than any other EU country? I think you’ll find it’s worth taking a look at.

UC is not enough to live on, so it makes sense people will be applying for more benefits.
Even more so now, with LCWRA being cut in half for new claimants, and also anyone under 22 not being able to get it at all.

harrassedmum · 13/05/2026 21:42

You vote labour but sound suspiciously like the stuff Farage comes out with?

SomeOtherUser · 13/05/2026 21:44

Rejoin the EU.

I'm baffled at those that want to "ditch net zero" and the like. If you're worried about the economy, come back to this question in 20 years when millions of people will be packed in the few places in the world (which, if the AMOC collapses, may not include the UK) that are still comfortably liveable. I envy those that are not lying sleepless at night worrying about these things!

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:48

Skippp · 13/05/2026 06:25

Oh and things that are not relevant to a country in a crisis:

  1. Men pretending to be women and wanting you to go along with it. You’re a man. Get over it and piss off.
  2. Gaza. That’s not a country we live in and so isn’t our problem.

Foreign policy is never something that can be fully ignored but I think the central fact is that the Gaza war thankfully seems to be over. People have no need to protest the war since it's over.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:50

Skippp · 13/05/2026 06:04

I work in finance and this country is on the brink of collapse. It’s spending too much, it’s not growing the economy and needs someone to come in and make good decisions quickly if we are to survive. It’s in a really serious state now and action must be taken. I’vote Labour, and did so hoping Keir would be brave enough to take the hard decisions needed but he’s been a pathetic wet blanket. We need a government who:

  1. get rid of the triple lock. It’s laughably unaffordable.
  2. reassess the whole benefits system and get rid of disability payments for anything but the most severe conditions, increasing the amounts to those who have these conditions.
  3. restrict benefit payments to those born outwith the UK to those that have been in full time work for a large proportion of their adult lives here.
  4. Reduce the minimum wage to help companies hire again.
  5. Reduce housing benefit. People will have to move to somewhere cheaper or landlords will have to drop prices to what people can afford.
  6. Go to an insurance backed healthcare system like they enjoy in Europe.
  7. Ditch 95% of planning regulation and get Britain building again.
  8. ditch net zero. No one is going to run a successful business in a country with the highest energy costs on the planet.
  9. Reopen Scotland oil and gas production (inc refineries) and explore for more areas.
  10. Simplify income taxes. Roll income tax into NICs. Give everyone child care hours, child benefit, personal allowance and increase tax rates to pay for this. Stop artificially restricting people from earning more.
  11. Simplify VAT. Drop the threshold to £20k to ensure no one has a ceiling on earnings.
  12. Simplify IHT. 5% on everything. No nil rates or exemptions.
  13. rejoin the single market and customs union.
  14. Explain policies better! Tell people how unaffordable the triple lock etc is. Tell them what the single market and customs union non is and why you’re rejoining. Tell people what the ‘bond markets’ are and why they’re important. Tell people why paying for rich people’s child care is much better for the economy than forcing high earners to drop their hours.
  15. Probably ought to start deporting economic migrants with no right to stay quickler to throw some red meat to reform voters.

We need a party to take on ALL of these policies and move AT PACE on them. Who’s the party that will do this? I thought it was Labour but BOY was I wrong on that!

What are people adding to the list?

reassess the whole benefits system and get rid of disability payments for anything but the most severe conditions, increasing the amounts to those who have these conditions.

  • what do you view as the most severe conditions? Apologies if this has already been asked.

restrict benefit payments to those born outwith the UK to those that have been in full time work for a large proportion of their adult lives here.

  • what if they have become disabled/ill? I agree mainly but not as a blanket rule.

Reduce the minimum wage to help companies hire again.- reduce it to what?

Reduce housing benefit. People will have to move to somewhere cheaper or landlords will have to drop prices to what people can afford.

  • Landlords definitely need to drop prices.
Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:53

Skippp · 13/05/2026 07:37

Our NMW was below oECD average, then we increased it and now it hugely exceeds OECD average. It’s so high because HOUSING is so expensive in this country. Successive governments have propped up housing as they don’t want pensioners to think they’re getting poorer by their house price falling. But high house prices are crippling this country. We need to look at reducing house prices. That’s not going to happen when house building is plummeting - which is undoubtedly is:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy099qv9qjlo#:~:text=House%2Dbuilding%20in%20London%20falls%20by%2084%25%20in%20a%20decade&text=New%20research%20from%20consultants%20Molior%20found%20construction%20work%20began%20on,compared%20with%2033%2C782%20in%202015.

Agree with this!

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:55

Skippp · 13/05/2026 07:25

The NHS has had real terms funding increase of 3.5% on average every year for the past 10 years. It is consuming an ever larger amount of the national income but services are getting no better. Does anyone question where the money goes?

This too- it's infuriating!

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:57

Skippp · 13/05/2026 17:02

But does anyone REALLY believe these stats? 1/3rd will be carers full time and it will be an incredibly tough, underpaid job. They could do with more money. 1/3rd will be carers needs occasionally throughout the day. And 1/3rd will be carers for their ASD child who goes to school all day then after school club (like the ‘carer’ I know) and could easily work around it.

You think the person isn't a proper carer if the child has school and after school clubs?

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:59

Skippp · 13/05/2026 08:21

Yup. Agreed. BUT the cost of housing comes into play here again. Inheritance is the only chance many have of owning their own home (yes I know, not great for social mobility) which is why so many people are so fiercely protecting the money they have to pass on. Drop the price of housing and this will ease the inheritance issue a bit. Also rebuilding council housing would help here in giving people homes they KNOW they won’t get kicked out of (unless they misbehave. I have no sympathy for nuisance neighbours).

Yes, we need more council housing

Re building regulations: why do we have so many? I've heard of similar issues in some US states. I don't want unsafe buildings to be built: what regulations can be safely removed, I wonder?

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:02

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:57

You think the person isn't a proper carer if the child has school and after school clubs?

They probably think the child is not actually disabled if they go to school.

A friend of mine is a carer for her ADHD/ASD boy. She gets no money for that as she in on LCWRA, and it will just get deducted £1 for £1 anyway (which the benefit bashers do not seem to realise).
She is absolutely wiped out looking after him when he is at home, and regularly has to go in and get him from school when he becomes dysregulated.

I do not have a link to hand, but there is a very depressing figure about how many parents of disabled children have contemplated suicide.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:04

Skippp · 13/05/2026 11:45

I live in Scotland. I loath the SNP and all of their copious waste.

If we look at the regions of the UK, SE, SW, London, EMids, WMids, Wales. Scotland, N Ireland, NE, NW the only regions taking more in income than they spend is London and the SE. And these regions earn LOADS more than they spend. The money going to Wales, N Ireland and Scotland is a redistribution of that wealth. Scotland gets a little more as it has more remote areas that are harder to provide services to.

Income tax is A LOT higher here than in rUK. It would cost £1.8bn a year to bring income tax back down into line with England. Thats like increasing rUKs tax take by £18bn. Stamp duty is double what it is in England (such a terrible, destructive policy). The extra council tax rates are due to start at £1m here when it’s £2m in England. Our household earns well but we pay £700-800 extra in tax every month for living in Scotland. If you earn below average I think you are maybe £40 a year better off tax wise. Free tuition fees cost about £1bn. Things that Scotland spends more on are mainly far higher benefits than England and they are easier to get.

Scotland is a pretty place to live which is why we stay here, despite the tax. The government wastes a lot of money but I don’t think the Barnett formula is that out of line considering SE and London wealth is redistributed throughout the other regions too.

That sounds very difficult...I've been reading up on the SNP recently and the Scotnet threads on violence in schools alone make me question why anyone is voting for them..

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:06

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:02

They probably think the child is not actually disabled if they go to school.

A friend of mine is a carer for her ADHD/ASD boy. She gets no money for that as she in on LCWRA, and it will just get deducted £1 for £1 anyway (which the benefit bashers do not seem to realise).
She is absolutely wiped out looking after him when he is at home, and regularly has to go in and get him from school when he becomes dysregulated.

I do not have a link to hand, but there is a very depressing figure about how many parents of disabled children have contemplated suicide.

That's awful ...my DM is a carer (for a parent not a child) and I can't see how anyone can argue someone isn't a carer if the person they care for goes to school etc..Helping disabled children & their parents needs to be a priority.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:08

Skippp · 13/05/2026 11:54

You see this is the issue. Politicians are too scared of the electorate to make the hard decisions that need to be made to save ourselves from the current debt spiral. So we’ll end up in the debt spiral and we’ll get Farage in. And instead of policies like reforming NHS funding to reflect European healthcare we’ll get an American model? So we want that? No. But if we shy away from hard decisions that’s what we’ll get!

We need to grow up, stop whining, take hard decisions or we’ll definitely end up with Reform, and nobody wants that.

This!

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:11

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:59

Yes, we need more council housing

Re building regulations: why do we have so many? I've heard of similar issues in some US states. I don't want unsafe buildings to be built: what regulations can be safely removed, I wonder?

New flats in London have to have views in two different direction I believe. And they need two stairs / lift shafts is over a certain height, not just one.

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Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:15

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:04

That sounds very difficult...I've been reading up on the SNP recently and the Scotnet threads on violence in schools alone make me question why anyone is voting for them..

I don’t think anyone would mind the high taxes if they were wisely spent, but the money is frittered away. Scotland proudly boasted about having no Doctors strikes, but this was because the SNP didn’t negotiate with the doctors just gave them what they asked for. All increases in funding for the Scottish nhs next year is entirely eaten up by pay rises, so services get no better.

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Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:17

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:57

You think the person isn't a proper carer if the child has school and after school clubs?

I’m saying they don’t need to have the entire day off. Their child will sleep at night at some point every night. I have an ASD child. I get that it’s hard. But I still work because I have to pay the bills.

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Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:18

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 21:48

Foreign policy is never something that can be fully ignored but I think the central fact is that the Gaza war thankfully seems to be over. People have no need to protest the war since it's over.

Gaza has absolutely zero effect on the current UK economic crisis. Iran does which is why we should concentrate on this, but Gaza is totally irrelevant.

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XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:24

Things like DLA/PIP/ADP are what keep some disabled people in work... and yes even very severely disabled ones. Some people need to let go of thinking you are only severely disabled if you are hooked up to tubes in bed 24/7.
Also, no benefit is awarded based on a condition.

Reducing NMW makes no sense when people working full time on NMW are still getting UC to live. What that will achieve is more being paid out in UC. How does that make sense?

Reducing housing benefit also makes no sense. Do you know about the difference between LHA and market rents anyway? Where I live, it is about £150pm. A single adult on £400pm UC would have to pay that. How would they afford to live?
Also, the problem of moving all the "poor" people to areas that are cheap. It seems a bit snobby to me.. NIMBY even.

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:28

I also notice you dragged up the thread where a single mum was working 16 hours to "keep her benefits".

You could have mentioned that her child is 2, and at that age, you are not expected to to work at all under UC rules. So the people telling her she was doing nothing wrong were doing nothing wrong. She is doing more than she is expected to, and she did say she would be upping her hours once her small child turns 3... and that she would get the same in UC whatever she did anyway.

But people put the boot in, called her selfish and entitled... a single mum that left an abusive relationship. Only on MN, eh.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:35

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:18

Gaza has absolutely zero effect on the current UK economic crisis. Iran does which is why we should concentrate on this, but Gaza is totally irrelevant.

Yes, agree on that. The Iran situation is unfortunately ongoing of course...even once it's over, the repercussions will probably last for quite a while...

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:37

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:28

I also notice you dragged up the thread where a single mum was working 16 hours to "keep her benefits".

You could have mentioned that her child is 2, and at that age, you are not expected to to work at all under UC rules. So the people telling her she was doing nothing wrong were doing nothing wrong. She is doing more than she is expected to, and she did say she would be upping her hours once her small child turns 3... and that she would get the same in UC whatever she did anyway.

But people put the boot in, called her selfish and entitled... a single mum that left an abusive relationship. Only on MN, eh.

Yes , this. I mean, I'd argue that it's important for a mother to be able to spend care for children that young and so it shouldn't be seen as a 'handout' for her to be supported to do that to some extent,anymore than a SAHM with a husband supporting her should be admonished for not working.

XenoBitch · 13/05/2026 22:39

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:37

Yes , this. I mean, I'd argue that it's important for a mother to be able to spend care for children that young and so it shouldn't be seen as a 'handout' for her to be supported to do that to some extent,anymore than a SAHM with a husband supporting her should be admonished for not working.

Yep. And she was working when she was not expected to anyway. But that was not enough for the vipers on here.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:39

Skippp · 13/05/2026 22:11

New flats in London have to have views in two different direction I believe. And they need two stairs / lift shafts is over a certain height, not just one.

Thank you, I want to look into this. Is the lift shaft and staircase rule due to fire safety, I wonder? Or something else?

The rule about 2 views definitely seems over stringent.

Jane379 · 13/05/2026 22:42

Skippp · 13/05/2026 08:37

You should get all of the aids free though. This is what the NHS should be doing. It should be providing physio. People shouldn’t be buying their own wheelchairs out of the £400 a month when some are also claiming the same when they have no real expenses.

This.

Somewhat related, I think there is case for maybe putting inhalers as something people can get for free. Maybe not...but when the list was drawn up, asthma medication wasn't as effective and easily available as it is now.

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