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Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/05/2026 21:44

Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

Guido Fawkes (@GuidoFawkes) on X

Matt Bishop according to Sam Coates. 75. https://t.co/qC4H6KwkEZ

https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:46

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 15:43

I happen to work on a computer....

So you’re often on MN during your working day?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 15:48

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:46

So you’re often on MN during your working day?

Is this some sort of trap you are laying?

Like Streetings? :D

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Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 15:50

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 14:41

Streeting is on the right of the Labour Party and a Blairite. That makes him a minority in Labour and ironically more aligned with Starmer (and he has just burned his bridges permanently there). The numbers for him as a leader with the Labour membership are not good (see poll above).

Thus the letter says, I accept that I will have to revise my beliefs after the broad conversation and fit in with the next leader (likely more the left than me). It’s a well written letter, but makes a silks purse out of a sows ear. He did not have the numbers. He could not get his coronation. He was humiliated by his PM yesterday. He is saying he is still prepared to contribute his skills after Starmer is gone.

Anyway, my take, there will be others. His gambit has failed.

Too early to say his gambit has failed.
He only resigned today!

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:52

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 15:48

Is this some sort of trap you are laying?

Like Streetings? :D

No, but I’m really surprised you have the time to be on MN during your working day. I’m on leave right now, but when I’m working, I don’t have time for MN!

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:53

It’s pretty outrageous to use social media whilst your employer is paying you to be working.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 15:54

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:52

No, but I’m really surprised you have the time to be on MN during your working day. I’m on leave right now, but when I’m working, I don’t have time for MN!

I'll tell the boss.

long wait to speak to him

I said I don't care.

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 16:00

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 15:54

I'll tell the boss.

long wait to speak to him

I said I don't care.

I’m just surprised is all.

igelkott2026 · 14/05/2026 16:05

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:52

I am still predicting Keir to either actually resign, Gove a specific date to resign in the future or somethign else, by the end of the day,

It's looking a lot more likely than it did when I started this thread....

It's so annoying - they just need to get on with the job!

FinchiePink · 14/05/2026 16:06

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

I never said had to I said will be forced to by the strength of public opinion. Labour are sunk they cannot last three years it will not happen.

Given that a week ago you said Keir wouldn't last 24 hours, you'll forgive us if absolutely no-one on this thread listens to this gumpf.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 16:07

FinchiePink · 14/05/2026 16:06

Given that a week ago you said Keir wouldn't last 24 hours, you'll forgive us if absolutely no-one on this thread listens to this gumpf.

Maybe you are new to political punditry.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 16:08

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 16:00

I’m just surprised is all.

That I successfully run my own business and get to make my own decisions?

I cannot imagine having to have a boss, you do you though.

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HRTQueen · 14/05/2026 16:15

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

I never said had to I said will be forced to by the strength of public opinion. Labour are sunk they cannot last three years it will not happen.

The public does not decide when there shall be a GE

They decide who wins by their vote

That is how it works. There have been many times PM's and the goverment have been extremely unpopular (Starmer is not disliked in the way Thatcher or Blair was), they are more likely to keep hold of power and try and change things to regain support than call an election

Labour have a huge majority they know they are not going to get this again

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 16:17

HRTQueen · 14/05/2026 16:15

The public does not decide when there shall be a GE

They decide who wins by their vote

That is how it works. There have been many times PM's and the goverment have been extremely unpopular (Starmer is not disliked in the way Thatcher or Blair was), they are more likely to keep hold of power and try and change things to regain support than call an election

Labour have a huge majority they know they are not going to get this again

I am so, so very bored of typing out the same rebuttal to this every 2 pages.

Nobody is saying the public directly decides the date of a general election. Of course they don’t. The Prime Minister requests dissolution, and the government chooses the timing within the five-year limit. That is literally the point.

The argument is not “the public can force one tomorrow”. The argument is that a new PM, installed after a catastrophic collapse in public support, has a legitimacy problem. They may be legally entitled to govern, but legality and political legitimacy are not the same thing.

Yes, Labour has a huge majority. But a huge majority won in 2024 by Keir Starmer, on Keir Starmer’s pitch, does not automatically give some replacement leader a moral blank cheque to run a different government for years without asking the country.

And “they know they won’t get this majority again” is exactly why it looks so grubby. That is not a principled democratic argument. That is just “we know the public no longer wants us, so we should cling on as long as possible.”

There is plenty of precedent for going early to get authority: Eden in 1955, Wilson in 1966, Heath in February 1974, Wilson again in October 1974, May in 2017, Johnson in 2019. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, but the reason is obvious: a Prime Minister often wants a mandate for their own leadership and programme.

Of course Labour might try to hang on. Parties often do. But if they dump Starmer after a terrible local election result and install a new leader, I think they will be under enormous pressure to go to the country. Not because the public sets the date, but because a government that is clearly unwanted cannot just hide behind parliamentary arithmetic forever without damaging itself even more.

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MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:18

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 16:00

I’m just surprised is all.

Maybe @SingleSexSpacesInSchools, is like me, at the computer, trying to work but being totally consumed by MN right now and works for themselves.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 16:23

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:18

Maybe @SingleSexSpacesInSchools, is like me, at the computer, trying to work but being totally consumed by MN right now and works for themselves.

Basically

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HRTQueen · 14/05/2026 16:32

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 16:17

I am so, so very bored of typing out the same rebuttal to this every 2 pages.

Nobody is saying the public directly decides the date of a general election. Of course they don’t. The Prime Minister requests dissolution, and the government chooses the timing within the five-year limit. That is literally the point.

The argument is not “the public can force one tomorrow”. The argument is that a new PM, installed after a catastrophic collapse in public support, has a legitimacy problem. They may be legally entitled to govern, but legality and political legitimacy are not the same thing.

Yes, Labour has a huge majority. But a huge majority won in 2024 by Keir Starmer, on Keir Starmer’s pitch, does not automatically give some replacement leader a moral blank cheque to run a different government for years without asking the country.

And “they know they won’t get this majority again” is exactly why it looks so grubby. That is not a principled democratic argument. That is just “we know the public no longer wants us, so we should cling on as long as possible.”

There is plenty of precedent for going early to get authority: Eden in 1955, Wilson in 1966, Heath in February 1974, Wilson again in October 1974, May in 2017, Johnson in 2019. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, but the reason is obvious: a Prime Minister often wants a mandate for their own leadership and programme.

Of course Labour might try to hang on. Parties often do. But if they dump Starmer after a terrible local election result and install a new leader, I think they will be under enormous pressure to go to the country. Not because the public sets the date, but because a government that is clearly unwanted cannot just hide behind parliamentary arithmetic forever without damaging itself even more.

They are damaging themselves. Labour often do

But they have potentially three years with a very large majority, the larger the majority the more infighting a leader will have to deal with. But give up that large majority unless they pull right back in the polls it just won't happen

That was not the case with those you mention they needed to win more seats to have an overall majority

Locutus2000 · 14/05/2026 16:42

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:18

Maybe @SingleSexSpacesInSchools, is like me, at the computer, trying to work but being totally consumed by MN right now and works for themselves.

There's a more obvious conclusion.

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 16:54

@Locutus2000, whatever could that be?

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 16:55

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 15:53

It’s pretty outrageous to use social media whilst your employer is paying you to be working.

Why would you assume the poster has an employer?

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 17:01

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 16:55

Why would you assume the poster has an employer?

Exactly!

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2026 17:16

The latest of your examples of going to the country early, May and Johnson, were in COMPLETELY different circumstances.
May totally miscalculated the mood of the nation and was desperately trying to get herself out of a Brexit stalemate.
Johnson knew he had support for his Brexit ‘let’s get it done’ message and rather than try to manage the precarious position May left the Tories in, he had nothing to lose by going back to the people, and (as it turned out) a huge amount to gain.

Any new Labour leader now will know that it will be impossible to improve on their current huge majority. Thursday’s results suggest they’d get an absolute kicking. Any leadership candidate even considering an early GE to soothe/salve their conscience will lose the leadership race. Labour MPs want to keep their jobs.

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2026 17:17

And now Burnham has been given an ‘in’ by the Macclesfield MP!
It’s all kicking off.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 17:23

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2026 17:17

And now Burnham has been given an ‘in’ by the Macclesfield MP!
It’s all kicking off.

Wowza. Bloody hell, this is getting more dramatic by the day.

cardibach · 14/05/2026 17:26

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2026 17:17

And now Burnham has been given an ‘in’ by the Macclesfield MP!
It’s all kicking off.

It’s not a foregone conclusion he wins the seat. It shows him as deeply personally ambitious and caring more for his career than his commitment to the people of Manchester if he even stands. Labour membership have rejected him twice…
He’s not the Messiah, he’s an arrogant little boy (to paraphrase).

Swiftie1878 · 14/05/2026 17:28

cardibach · 14/05/2026 17:26

It’s not a foregone conclusion he wins the seat. It shows him as deeply personally ambitious and caring more for his career than his commitment to the people of Manchester if he even stands. Labour membership have rejected him twice…
He’s not the Messiah, he’s an arrogant little boy (to paraphrase).

There’s an MP on Sky now saying if he’s blocked again there will be civil war within the Labour Party.

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