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Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/05/2026 21:44

Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

Guido Fawkes (@GuidoFawkes) on X

Matt Bishop according to Sam Coates. 75. https://t.co/qC4H6KwkEZ

https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

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Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:39

TemperanceWest · 14/05/2026 13:37

This para of his letter is being taken to mean he doesn't have enough names, at least not yet:

It is now clear that you will not lead the Labour party into the next general election and that Labour MPs and Labour unions want the debate about what comes next to be a battle of ideas, not of personalities or petty factionalism. It needs to be broad, and it needs the best possible field of candidates. I support that approach and I hope that you will facilitate this.

So there's no rumour then. Where's the rush? Starmer knows it's all over now. He had his chance to take control of his departure and chose not to.

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:40

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:33

But Ed Miliband said days ago that if Streeting did this he'd enter the contest so that claim makes no sense.

Streeting was trying to do what Gordon Brown did to succeed Blair. Drive him out and take the succession. Blair resigned. Starmer refused.

At the time, people indicated that they wanted to oppose Brown but in the end, no contest. If Ed Miliband said he would stand off the record, well, it wouldn’t mean much.

This is the only coronation the Labour Party have ever done. Streeting wanted the same

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:41

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:40

Streeting was trying to do what Gordon Brown did to succeed Blair. Drive him out and take the succession. Blair resigned. Starmer refused.

At the time, people indicated that they wanted to oppose Brown but in the end, no contest. If Ed Miliband said he would stand off the record, well, it wouldn’t mean much.

This is the only coronation the Labour Party have ever done. Streeting wanted the same

Another catastrophic error of judgement from Starmer.

TemperanceWest · 14/05/2026 13:41

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:39

So there's no rumour then. Where's the rush? Starmer knows it's all over now. He had his chance to take control of his departure and chose not to.

Edited

See also what MNLurker1345 just posted.

We will see soon enough.

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:43

TemperanceWest · 14/05/2026 13:41

See also what MNLurker1345 just posted.

We will see soon enough.

Ultimately, this isn't about Streeting though. The end goal is to get rid of Starmer.

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2026 13:44

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:28

then he would not have quit

This whole thread might as well be renamed

"Tell me you don't know about politics without telling me you don't know about politics"

You've said in this thread that

the new Labour leader (if Keir resigns, still an IF) would have to call a GE for a mandate.

This isn't true at all. They don't have to do anything of the sort.

See :

Gordon Brown replacing Tony Blair, Theresa May replacing David Cameron, Boris Johnson replacing Theresa May, Rishi replacing Liz etc...

None of those leaders immediately went to the polls. Why would the Starmer replacement be different? What is your agenda here?

It's only if the government lost a confidence vote, or Labour MPs could no longer command a Commons majority (come on,how likely is THAT?!) ..

I just don't get the constant "mandate" shouts on here. We never heard it that much in Tory times did we?

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:44

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:41

Another catastrophic error of judgement from Starmer.

Tbh it makes a fair bit of sense. Haven’t you ever had something that you’ve fought hard for and don’t want to give up? Politicians accept losing elections. They don’t, typically, handover the job they’ve always wanted just because someone tells them they should. They typically fight until the numbers tell them they cannot win.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 13:45

God I’m getting tired of this phoney leadership contest. They’re all just a bunch of snakes obsessed with taking power. And Starmer is a rubbish leader. Before anyone accuses me of being a right wing bot, I’m a Labour/Lib Dem voter. I’m just tired of all the political psychodrama we had with the last government, which has resumed with this one.

TemperanceWest · 14/05/2026 13:45

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:43

Ultimately, this isn't about Streeting though. The end goal is to get rid of Starmer.

It is about Streeting for Streeting. He thinks he is going to be PM.

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:47

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2026 13:44

This whole thread might as well be renamed

"Tell me you don't know about politics without telling me you don't know about politics"

You've said in this thread that

the new Labour leader (if Keir resigns, still an IF) would have to call a GE for a mandate.

This isn't true at all. They don't have to do anything of the sort.

See :

Gordon Brown replacing Tony Blair, Theresa May replacing David Cameron, Boris Johnson replacing Theresa May, Rishi replacing Liz etc...

None of those leaders immediately went to the polls. Why would the Starmer replacement be different? What is your agenda here?

It's only if the government lost a confidence vote, or Labour MPs could no longer command a Commons majority (come on,how likely is THAT?!) ..

I just don't get the constant "mandate" shouts on here. We never heard it that much in Tory times did we?

This was called “suicide” by John Curtice this morning regarding a mandate election and everyone in SW1 knows it too. This kind of chat is done to support political betting and making money from idiots

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:48

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:32

He was trying. Fruitlessly. The moment Starmer said he would not resign then the coronation was not going to happen. It explains the letters, the waiting, the briefing, and the coffee less 16 minute meeting. Streeting wanted a coronation, not a contest.

There can’t be a combination that’s not how labour leadership works

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Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:48

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:44

Tbh it makes a fair bit of sense. Haven’t you ever had something that you’ve fought hard for and don’t want to give up? Politicians accept losing elections. They don’t, typically, handover the job they’ve always wanted just because someone tells them they should. They typically fight until the numbers tell them they cannot win.

Yes, I can totally understand Starmer's position and even empathise. I'm sure he never envisaged this happening in under two years but I don't see how he can move forward with such a fractured party. 250 of his own MPs have refused to support him at such a critical time - those numbers are huge.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:44

Tbh it makes a fair bit of sense. Haven’t you ever had something that you’ve fought hard for and don’t want to give up? Politicians accept losing elections. They don’t, typically, handover the job they’ve always wanted just because someone tells them they should. They typically fight until the numbers tell them they cannot win.

Maybe he should’ve taken some note of the numbers that came out of last Thursday’s local elections then

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2026 13:44

This whole thread might as well be renamed

"Tell me you don't know about politics without telling me you don't know about politics"

You've said in this thread that

the new Labour leader (if Keir resigns, still an IF) would have to call a GE for a mandate.

This isn't true at all. They don't have to do anything of the sort.

See :

Gordon Brown replacing Tony Blair, Theresa May replacing David Cameron, Boris Johnson replacing Theresa May, Rishi replacing Liz etc...

None of those leaders immediately went to the polls. Why would the Starmer replacement be different? What is your agenda here?

It's only if the government lost a confidence vote, or Labour MPs could no longer command a Commons majority (come on,how likely is THAT?!) ..

I just don't get the constant "mandate" shouts on here. We never heard it that much in Tory times did we?

I never said had to I said will be forced to by the strength of public opinion. Labour are sunk they cannot last three years it will not happen.

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 13:50

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:48

Yes, I can totally understand Starmer's position and even empathise. I'm sure he never envisaged this happening in under two years but I don't see how he can move forward with such a fractured party. 250 of his own MPs have refused to support him at such a critical time - those numbers are huge.

Where did you get the info from about 250 of KS’s MPs not supporting him?

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:51

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 13:50

Where did you get the info from about 250 of KS’s MPs not supporting him?

The number who are on the fence.

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:53

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:48

Yes, I can totally understand Starmer's position and even empathise. I'm sure he never envisaged this happening in under two years but I don't see how he can move forward with such a fractured party. 250 of his own MPs have refused to support him at such a critical time - those numbers are huge.

No you cannot claim 250 MPs don’t support him. You don’t know. He’s not going without a fight. Streeting faces a competition now which, even if he’s put in a letter, is going to be gamed against him. The MP numbers matter to start the game. That’s all.

On current projections Starmer would win against Streeting in a leadership contest. He would struggle against someone more left wing. It will be really interesting to see who that candidate is

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:56

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

Maybe he should’ve taken some note of the numbers that came out of last Thursday’s local elections then

Don’t be silly. You don’t just hand over your job just because someone tells you do you? You hang on.

JacquesHarlow · 14/05/2026 13:56

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 13:49

I never said had to I said will be forced to by the strength of public opinion. Labour are sunk they cannot last three years it will not happen.

How does public opinion "force" a mandate? @SingleSexSpacesInSchools

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:56

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:53

No you cannot claim 250 MPs don’t support him. You don’t know. He’s not going without a fight. Streeting faces a competition now which, even if he’s put in a letter, is going to be gamed against him. The MP numbers matter to start the game. That’s all.

On current projections Starmer would win against Streeting in a leadership contest. He would struggle against someone more left wing. It will be really interesting to see who that candidate is

If they haven't added their name to the letter of support then they've refused to support him.

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:58

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:56

If they haven't added their name to the letter of support then they've refused to support him.

If that were true, Starmer would be out on his ear now. What you mean is, they haven’t said anything

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:59

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:58

If that were true, Starmer would be out on his ear now. What you mean is, they haven’t said anything

Yes - they've refused to publicly support the Prime Minister.

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 14:03

Or factually, they didn’t say anything at all. You are drawing an inference, but it doesn’t mean what you claim

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 14:04

ByGraptharsHammer · 14/05/2026 13:56

Don’t be silly. You don’t just hand over your job just because someone tells you do you? You hang on.

If I had been told that clearly by my boss, how shit I was doing a job I’d probably leave in shame at night without telling anybody

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 14:05

Dragonscaledaisy · 14/05/2026 13:51

The number who are on the fence.

I don’t think that’s right.

Out of 403 Labour MPs, 95 have publicly called for Starmer’s resignation (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OBYlmRwHPlRa9Lsk6nTGlgX7Ixn1C3oX6v-f6ogZDEI/htmlview?gid=0&pru=AAABnjy6xPo*awhWrj_x8obo-CQvlRS9xQ#gid=0).

102 MPs have signed a letter in support of Starmer (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/12/labour-mps-sign-statement-against-starmer-leadership-challenge) if we discount Rupa Huq, who says she didn’t sign it.

That’s 197 out of 403 MPs. That means 206 - not 250 - haven’t publicly spoken out for or against KS. Perhaps that’s a pedantic point, but I think it’s an important one.

GUIDO FAWKES: Starmer Resignation Calls

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OBYlmRwHPlRa9Lsk6nTGlgX7Ixn1C3oX6v-f6ogZDEI/htmlview?gid=0&pru=AAABnjy6xPo*awhWrj_x8obo-CQvlRS9xQ#gid=0)

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