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Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/05/2026 21:44

Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

Guido Fawkes (@GuidoFawkes) on X

Matt Bishop according to Sam Coates. 75. https://t.co/qC4H6KwkEZ

https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:53

ButterYellowFlowers · 12/05/2026 14:52

You said civil unrest is why an election would be called. Do keep up with your own argument.

keep up with the reading.

I said a government lacking legitimacy will spend every single interview and question time dealing with people asking when the GE is, which undermines everything AND there will be increasing amounts of civil unrest as the people consider their government to be more legitimate by the day

thats why.

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TemperanceWest · 12/05/2026 14:54

myrtleWilson · 12/05/2026 14:51

👍

😂

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:54

myrtleWilson · 12/05/2026 14:53

“Something else” is covering a lot of bases there @SingleSexSpacesInSchools

fair assertion. I mean an unequivocal commitment, sign, something that he will not be PM and there will be a leadership election.

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Allisnotlost1 · 12/05/2026 14:54

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:46

I didn't;t say it was. I said "How about we make it economically viable and attractive to have children rather than something that people put off?" and - I stand by that. xx

Sure, and I’m asking you to consider whether that has been done. Here are some things the Labour government have done that fit with the evidence your AI found on making it ‘economically viable and attractive to have children’.

  • Delivered the expanded free childcare entitlement begun under previous government: 15 funded hours for eligible working parents from 9 months old, rollout toward 30 funded hours for eligible working families
  • Early rollout of free breakfast club programmes in primary schools
  • Strengthened protections for pregnant women and new mothers through employment legislation
  • Day-one right to request flexible working strengthened in practice and guidance
  • New employment rights legislation introduced, including:
  • stronger protections against unfair dismissal practices,
  • tighter rules on exploitative zero-hours arrangements,
  • stronger sick pay protections,
  • measures against “fire and rehire”
  • Expanded or strengthened carers’ rights and bereavement leave provisions within employment reforms
  • Launch of school-based nursery expansion programmes using spare primary school capacity

These are the things planned or underway

  • Expansion to around 3,000 school-based nurseries
  • Universal free breakfast clubs across all primary schools in England
  • Making flexible working the default where practical, with employers needing stronger justification to refuse
  • Day-one rights to:
  • paternity leave
  • unpaid parental leave
  • Wider overhaul/review of parental leave and pay systems, including:
  • maternity leave
  • paternity leave
  • shared parental leave
  • statutory pay levels
  • Further strengthening of protections for carers
  • More secure and predictable working-hours

But this isn’t enough for you, so can you tell us what an alternative government would offer?

DrBlackbird · 12/05/2026 14:56

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 09:43

And god help any one earning over £25k if Burnham gets in.

Why?

He’s further left on the party. Labour need to buy their way back into favour. Where will that money tree come from? More taxes. Raids on pensions, capital gains, etc. The truly wealthy can hire great accountants and invest off shore. Middle class are stuck.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 14:56

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:31

That felt like a smack in the face

But aren’t you a man? So presumably none of this matters to you?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:56

Allisnotlost1 · 12/05/2026 14:54

Sure, and I’m asking you to consider whether that has been done. Here are some things the Labour government have done that fit with the evidence your AI found on making it ‘economically viable and attractive to have children’.

  • Delivered the expanded free childcare entitlement begun under previous government: 15 funded hours for eligible working parents from 9 months old, rollout toward 30 funded hours for eligible working families
  • Early rollout of free breakfast club programmes in primary schools
  • Strengthened protections for pregnant women and new mothers through employment legislation
  • Day-one right to request flexible working strengthened in practice and guidance
  • New employment rights legislation introduced, including:
  • stronger protections against unfair dismissal practices,
  • tighter rules on exploitative zero-hours arrangements,
  • stronger sick pay protections,
  • measures against “fire and rehire”
  • Expanded or strengthened carers’ rights and bereavement leave provisions within employment reforms
  • Launch of school-based nursery expansion programmes using spare primary school capacity

These are the things planned or underway

  • Expansion to around 3,000 school-based nurseries
  • Universal free breakfast clubs across all primary schools in England
  • Making flexible working the default where practical, with employers needing stronger justification to refuse
  • Day-one rights to:
  • paternity leave
  • unpaid parental leave
  • Wider overhaul/review of parental leave and pay systems, including:
  • maternity leave
  • paternity leave
  • shared parental leave
  • statutory pay levels
  • Further strengthening of protections for carers
  • More secure and predictable working-hours

But this isn’t enough for you, so can you tell us what an alternative government would offer?

I'd want an alternative government to make it economically viable to have children. Childcare provision expanded to earlier in the Childs life, longer and more equal parental leave, significant tax breaks for having children - way more than the sound bites mentioned above.

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ButterYellowFlowers · 12/05/2026 14:57

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:53

keep up with the reading.

I said a government lacking legitimacy will spend every single interview and question time dealing with people asking when the GE is, which undermines everything AND there will be increasing amounts of civil unrest as the people consider their government to be more legitimate by the day

thats why.

So you’re saying that instead of letting the government get on with their term, reform voters are going to harass the government into not having the time to do any work or they will riot. Despite the fact that this will make people’s lives worse and isn’t in line with the democratic principles of the country which voted labour in fair and square?

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 14:57

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:56

I'd want an alternative government to make it economically viable to have children. Childcare provision expanded to earlier in the Childs life, longer and more equal parental leave, significant tax breaks for having children - way more than the sound bites mentioned above.

And where will that money come from?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:58

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 14:56

But aren’t you a man? So presumably none of this matters to you?

this is me https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-brighton-news-father-sue-school

it's pretty much my single policy voting position.

And I am here right now - because I LOVE TALKING POLITICS :D

Father threatens to sue daughter's school for allowing trans girls into female toilets

The row has rumbled on all year

https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-brighton-news-father-sue-school

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:59

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 14:57

And where will that money come from?

Dramatic reduction in welfare bill, mandatory work for benefit claimants, removal of 20% of the civil service.

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TemperanceWest · 12/05/2026 14:59

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:51

when did I say 82.2% of people were about to take to the streets?

You will definitely find quite a lot of them on the streets this Saturday, post local election results.

Ah. Are you referring to the miniature fascist's March on Saturday?

That has been planned for ages, nothing to do with local elections.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:00

ButterYellowFlowers · 12/05/2026 14:57

So you’re saying that instead of letting the government get on with their term, reform voters are going to harass the government into not having the time to do any work or they will riot. Despite the fact that this will make people’s lives worse and isn’t in line with the democratic principles of the country which voted labour in fair and square?

82.2% of people in the UK are not voting Reform.

I am not voting Reform.

But there is very little chance of getting to the end of the year without a GE.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:00

TemperanceWest · 12/05/2026 14:59

Ah. Are you referring to the miniature fascist's March on Saturday?

That has been planned for ages, nothing to do with local elections.

I never said it was.

I am not going.

I am saying it will be much larger now, post local results.

Also quick check, what parts of it are Fascistic? Always fascinated to see what things people think re Fascist, generally, things they don't agree with,

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Allisnotlost1 · 12/05/2026 15:01

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:56

I'd want an alternative government to make it economically viable to have children. Childcare provision expanded to earlier in the Childs life, longer and more equal parental leave, significant tax breaks for having children - way more than the sound bites mentioned above.

They’re policies, not sound bites. Weird that you don’t know the difference.

Fair enough, but I think it’s a big ask to expect a government to also fund the first nine months of childcare when legally employers have to pay maternity leave for at least that long. It’s also difficult to see it’s in the best interests of the child in most cases (though of course parents can make the choice that suits them). I doubt being able to have a baby and immediately put it in childcare is that persuasive to most women.

Parental leave changes are on the list and tax breaks have been shown to never limited effect in most counties where tried. So you might want them, but governments should implement things that are evidence based imo, not things that pander to the rich only.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:02

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:58

this is me https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-brighton-news-father-sue-school

it's pretty much my single policy voting position.

And I am here right now - because I LOVE TALKING POLITICS :D

Well, that’s a bit lame

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:02

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:02

Well, that’s a bit lame

I'm OK with you thinking that. I am quite pleased with myself.

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:02

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:00

82.2% of people in the UK are not voting Reform.

I am not voting Reform.

But there is very little chance of getting to the end of the year without a GE.

Who are you voting for then?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:03

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:02

Who are you voting for then?

No point, in a very safe Green seat.

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Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:03

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:59

Dramatic reduction in welfare bill, mandatory work for benefit claimants, removal of 20% of the civil service.

How would all of that work? If you remove 20% of the CS, the rest of it will collapse. And what made you decide on that percentage specifically?

Allisnotlost1 · 12/05/2026 15:04

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 14:59

Dramatic reduction in welfare bill, mandatory work for benefit claimants, removal of 20% of the civil service.

Who will provide the ‘mandatory work for benefit claimants’ and which claimants will have to work? The ones who are already working? The pensioners? The people are not fit for work? The people who are looking for work? I mean, if there work, just give it to the people looking for work, great idea.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:04

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/05/2026 15:03

No point, in a very safe Green seat.

Ah. So you’re just here to cause chaos.

DrBlackbird · 12/05/2026 15:04

EasternStandard · 12/05/2026 10:24

They started reacting whilst the speech was happening. It was dire.

It sounds as though you’re close to the Westminster crowd. Are you? If so, do you see any alternatives to Starmer in the current crop of Labour MPs?

None have leapt out to me via reporting or news. I’m currently disappointed in Mahmoud, Streeting and Phillips. Always was in Lammy and Raynor.

And incredibly I’m in agreement with John McDonalds on not rushing into another bloody leadership challenge. Does Westminster not realise just how fed up voters are with their internal bickering and manoeuvring?

SapphOhNo · 12/05/2026 15:05

Thefastandthecurious5 · 12/05/2026 15:04

Ah. So you’re just here to cause chaos.

Hey - give him a break. He's also here to copy and paste AI generated responses and share weird and wonderful links from right wing sources...

Monty36 · 12/05/2026 15:08

I suspect a GE is some way off. The last thing the Government will do is make one happen. They have a majority. A change of leader does not press the button for a General Election. The new leader just takes over and becomes PM.
They want a change of leader which is a different thing entirely.
Streeting might want to fight it a leadership bout with Andy Burnham. Apparently there is an MP who will step down to give him a slot as an MP.
Andy Burnham will win by a country mile. He would also be the candidate I suspect Reform would fear the most. He is the only hope for Labour in all honesty.

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