To think we don’t know how lucky we are under Starmer.

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Russia have a mad despot who is responsible for the deaths of Russians and Ukrainians and has caused untold damage on the world’s environment and economy. But he’s still in power.

The USA have a mad despot who’s causing deaths worldwide and has started a war he can’t win causing untold damage to the world’s economy and environment. But he’s still in power.

Israel have a mad despot who is committing genocide and putting Jewish people at risk across the world. But he’s still in power.

In the UK, we have a dull bloke who’s doing his best to stand up to the mad despots while not leading us into war. And we’re all trying to get rid of him.

Depressingly, you’re so right

Yep, that was a dick move. He needs more trustworthy advisors for sure.

This

and this.

In this "instant" age where people have got used to having answers at their fingertips, some seem to think it's like a magician or Genie in a bottle where things instantly can change when someone snaps their fingers. Of course real life isn't like that.

Unfortunately you get that oik Chris Mason given 50% of the news programme every night to make up his little fantasies, and when things get repeated often enough, people begin to presume they must be true. He chooses to continually look for issues with a man getting on with his job - which of course has been made FAR more complicated and challenging by Trump having been elected in USA - rather than presenting a fair, unbiased reflection of what is going on in Parliament. I just sit a squirm at so much of his questioning each night.

Are we actually being serious that 80 snakes can seriously overturn the democratic vote of 60 million people. Because I have had enough of this. I am starting to think this is actually what’s wrong with our country. We cannot chop and change PM like this!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26335569

But oddly, neither does The Graun ever approve of a Labour leader. Unless maybe if Corbyn was elected. Unfortunately its integrity was lost years ago.

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is among cabinet ministers calling for Starmer to set out a timetable for his resignation

Thats disappointing because i thought she had some capabilities, but now she’s just being another egotistical PM wannabe going by what serves her career rather than what’s best for the country.

For information, 60 million people did not vote for the Labour Party with Sir Keir Starmer as leader.

The Labour Party won with 33.7% of the total votes cast. Also remember that many of those eligible to vote did not do so.

So the country did not overwhelmingly support Starmer's Labour Party. Quite a lot of those votes were in protest at the Tories' record.

Starmer may not do so badly on the International stage but if he can't control his backbenchers and make the much needed welfare reform changes and bowed to them and ditched the 2 child UC benefit cap when it was very popular with the voting public who wished to keep it, why should he keep his position?

Then on top of that he appoints untrustworthy people like Mandelson, whilst ignoring all the warnings given to him. And then blames and fires others for his poor decisions.

Such inept behaviour from a former human rights lawyer! But then again he has forgotten his past career and now overlooks human rights and international law abuses and let's them go unchallenged when it suits him.

This is why he should be considering his position.

He has no backbone. The public sees that and his own backbenchers sees that.

So unless he has a total personality change and finds some charisma from somewhere he should be gone.

However, the Labour Party backbenchers seem to be very keen on self destructing if they think the public will vote for a more left leaning Party fronted by the likes of Ed Miliband or Angela Rayner! Even Andy Burnham will not change their fortunes if he won't take serious steps to reform welfare and align the numbers eligible to receive it with the European average, which is way, way lower than the in the UK.

So unless he has a total personality change and finds some charisma from somewhere he should be gone

So that's his problem. FFS.

She’s a twat.

Completely agree. I really like Ed Miliband and think he’d be a good successor, but the media will rip him to shreds. They mainly resent his left-of-centre beliefs, slight social awkwardness and Jewish heritage, saying stuff like he’s ’un-British’, ‘a citizen of nowhere’ etc. Awfully cruel common or garden antisemitism.

The Labour Party won with 33.7% of the total votes cast. Also remember that many of those eligible to vote did not do so.

Do you remember the alternative vote referendum in 2011/12? Did you vote in it? It’s because of that referendum that we still have first past the post.

I agree with this.

i do wonder if he needs to step down for the sake of the party. Otherwise in two years labour will be out.

This

This!

What is ‘blatant’ exactly? That there are people who think and feel differently to you? To be honest, it’s unusual and refreshing to see support for Starmer - there are many threads and posts that are exactly the opposite.

This! We had a ‘personality’ with Johnson and look how that turned out. Politics is broken. People want someone with ‘charisma’ and slogans. I despair - we’re on a fast-track to Trumpism with the cult of personality and unserious politics of Farage.

Totally agree, OP.
He reminds me of my boring but very sensible uncle and I trust him.

Had exactly the same conversation yesterday! This constant blame game is so tedious. I am losing all faith in labour, stopped being a card carrying member a while back, and now not even sure I’d vote for them with this witch hunt!

Intelligence doesn’t get voted for. People like Trump and Farage because they talk in simple soundbites

It’s like saying you’d sooner be punched than stabbed

Is that what it is then? In the reality show that is politics, he’s not charismatic enough?

Totally agree - Starmer needs a Campbell (or maybe even a Malcolm Tucker!).

Both Campbell and Paul Mason wrote great articles in The New World yesterday, about why this isn’t the right time for Starmer to go - well worth a read.