To think Keir Starmer might resign tomorrow (Monday)

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I think he might. But who knows. He must know he can't possibly stay until the next General Election. It's very disrespectful to the electorate to not listen.

His speech is live on the radio now.
The first person speaking said ‘People don’t feel listed to’.
But she fails to say that it’s immigration that is the message, and Labour is ignoring.

Har har. Funny. Have you listened to the coverage about him this morning? He said; ‘To meet the challenges that our country faces, incremental change won't cut it.’

yes, i misread
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That’s your view and it’s subjective. Immigration is not the biggest view for most people. The cost of living is the main thing affecting us all.

i t hink immigration is more important to many many people, more so than the cost of living.
but i dont collect the data

in fact having checked the data it is ROADS which comes top!

What do Britons see as the top issues locally, ahead of 2026 local, mayoral and devolved elections

AIBU to think we don't need yet another flaming thread about this?

It's not "immigration ". It's seeing brown people out and about, living their lives.

Looks like we do.

someone should remind starmer about the Roads

This is like when Cameron, Boris, etc… we do not need an even major shitshow. He should listen and do a much better job. We can decide in the next elections when due.

That's easy ... with the candidates available things would be even worse, which is probably the reason they're shilly-shallying over removing him

With respect it is seen criminals ruling the streets. I appreciate the country good and talented immigration but as an inmigrants myself I am horrified to see the turn for worse. I would be considered brown as well. I suffered racism 30 years ago but this is unrelated to what is going on at the moment,

If he stays on then there is a much higher chance that Reform gets in come next general election. The Labour Party, as it is, is not popular.

No I think they just want to be able to control everything and everyone

I agree that whoever is in charge the media will rip them apart

I don't think he was ever likely to go.

I think there's a slim chance he could turn things round. I don't think he will though it will be a long slow death by a thousand cuts taking the Labour party with him.

Given Boris didn't even have to go when he illegally prorogued parliament I fail to see why people were expecting Kier to resign just because some of the population wish they had a fraudulent fascist in charge

He won’t choose to go but I think the two challenges could happen.

Catherine West backed down and while there are noises it's not actually that easy to get rid of a sitting labour leader - at least that what polticial people have said in past.

I never undertood how Boris got near PM job - but he was clearly a chancer with a dubious relationship with truth.

It keeps being trotted out that Stamer is a man of integrity - I wonder if it needs saying so much because his poltical skills are so weak he never comes across like that. Expecting him to be better than Boris - well what a fucking low bar.

I keep seeing two things being pushed - don't change leader need stablity and idea UK is ungovernable. I don't think we'll get poltical stablity I think it will be endless back stabbing and undermining and weak leadership till next GE and I don't think the UK in ungovernable - I think most would like clearer direction and more leadership.

Yep, people in real life are more pragmatic. The media is relentless.

CW is to the left of the party, she will want Burnham. That will take time.

If it happens now it’s Streeting, hence her switch to September.

I think she was hoping someone would step up - but the September deadline will be ignored. She needed 81 MP to support her but got 10.

Starmer is a man that will hang on to bitter end and there's no-one everyone else wants to crown - Burnham not even an MP - may not be able to get back to being one if Starmer continues to block and while he looks good and could possible make a difference not sure he'll have enough support to take out Starmer.

He’s not ‘hanging on’ apart from a few MPs causing trouble most of the party dont want him to go. The ‘hanging on’ line is pure media spin.
Also Starmer isn’t blocking Burnham. The rules say he needs to finish his mayoral term - and it’s also better for the party (and probably Manchester) if he does - and Starmer has already said that when his term ends he will be supported in finding a suitable seat if he wants to return to Parliament. Again, media spin at play suggesting otherwise.

I think it’ll be Streeting v Burnham and various MPs are building behind either. Eg Rayner is obviously backing AB today.

AB can of course resign but the NEC would need to not block him, plus he’d need to win a seat.