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Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour

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hollyandtheivy26 · 08/05/2026 23:37

Aplogies for the typo in the title. If you think this makes me look stupid, you are proving that you are a bigoted bully, flailing around in desperation. It's just a typo, entirely down to a slightly sub par keyboard.

Restore took all ten council seats. Anywhere it stood, it won. Many Reform voters have indicated they'd have voted Restore but since they were unavailable they voted Reform as next best. Starmer still refusing to leave, in line totalitarian dictators of old, Starmer's response being, basically "People didn't vote for us because we didn't do all the things they didn't want and didn't vote for even faster".

Farage's Reform UK Party currently standing at 1237 Seats - having won 1235 seats. Starmer's Labour Party has lost 1,108 Seats and retains only 801. And literally 10/10 for Restore :)

So the question is - do the excessively far left radicals (who are highly active on mumsnet but have never represented the majority in real life) still believe that repeatedly using the slur of racist and calling the majority of British people stupid for having absolutely standard uncontroversial reviews, was the right thing to do? Will you continue to use that failed tactic in an attempt to silence your opponents?

Further to that, are you aware that calling me racist, stupid and the others slurs you are itching to type is an obvious and ignorant own goal and only proves the point I am making?

Or do you find shouting slurs at the majority of UK citizens cathartic, so you will still attempt to use these slurs, despite them no longer having any meaning or power?

YABU

Or have you finally understood that the majority of the UK are standard, average people hold uncontroversial views and that they have perfectly valid reasons to vote Reform and Restore? Are you able to understand that people you have been trying to silence with the slurs of Nazi, racist and "far right" are in fact perfectly centrist, commonplace and average voters? Can you learn from your mistakes moving forward?

YANBU

To assist you with critical thinking, here's a quick recap of Starmer's failures:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.
Raised the minimum wage and National Insurance contributions, leading to thousands of job losses and businesses folding.
Continuing to pursue the politics of envy, introduced VAT to private school fees leading to many excellent seats of learning closing their doors.
Removed winter fuel payments to pensioners, despite his own party claiming a couple of years earlier that this would result in pensioner deaths.
Consistently refused to answer questions during the session in the parliamentary week set aside for this specific purpose.
Unilaterally gave away billions of pounds of taxpayers money with no accountability required from the recipient.
Failed to control mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
Introduced legislation that will destroy the private rental market and create hundreds of thousands of homeless families.
Promised to build 1.5 million homes in five years despite everyone telling him it would be impossible.
Failed to address muslim rape gangs.
Increased welfare payments to a point where benefits now cost more than the entire income tax take.
Allowed weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches on UK streets.
Completly ignored the massive rise of anti semitism, attempted to gaslight the UK on the subject.
Consistently referred to people with concerns about the proliferation of migrant violence as "Far Right".
Promoted a friend to high office while knowing he was chums with one of the most prolific paedophiles on the planet.
Consistently worked to reverse the result of the biggest democratic vote in British history by stealth.
Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts.
Invited a known islamist terrorist to No.10 while simultaneously banning foreign commentators from the UK for merely reporting on the border fiasco.
Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked.
Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran.
Continues to allow Ed Milliband to wreck the UK's energy industry with his unworkable and deeply unpopular Net Zero policies.
Consistently failed to accept responsibility for any wrong doing.
Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side.

Well, Britain is going to bed refreshed and energised, a new day has dawned, the British are delighted to see the first step taken towards celebrating and reinstating the British way of life (insert obvious and boring comment from radical far leftist as British people are not allowed to have the same rights as other countries to enjoy and be enthusiastic about, or celebrate their thousands of years of heritage).

Well done Reform, you'll do for now until Restore has the time to swoop in and win across the board :)

And well done Restore, an amazing start - figuratively and literally ten out of ten :)

What a huge relief 😍

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ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 13:20

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:20

Read your post again I correct myself yes Restore won all seats they stood for .I thought you meant Reform won every seat initially.

Don't like any of them to be fair

Yes that’s what I said Restore won all the seats they stood in….which is no mean feat I’d imagine.

they only started up a few months ago too…

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 13:22

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/05/2026 09:25

One random undated fb post isn’t evidence of your claim.

If you constantly dismiss anyone who disagrees with your views as stupid, you’re going to keep being surprised.

I haven't called anyone stupid in this thread or anywhere else. I've merely pointed out that there are voters who appear to believe that voting for Reform in a local election will usher in Reform-led changes at national level.

ElenOfTheWays · 09/05/2026 13:51

Labour are unpopular and are definitely failing at a lot of what they should be doing. Many of them ate not just incompetent but actually seem to be actual imbeciles. I personally loathe Starmer and consider him a vacuous moral coward.

They also appear to hate women - but show me a party currently that does not. Greens, Reform, Lib Dems.. they are all misogynists in their own way.
Arguing about that is pointless.

There is a lot that needs fixing in the country. A lot wrong with the current government but Reform is NOT the answer.

I'm actually terrified that Reform might win a GE. I can't imagine anything worse.
I wish Labour (as the current incumbents) would get a bloody grip and turn things around before it's too late. They are handing this country over to Nigel Farage. And if that happens, we will not be safe.

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 14:05

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 12:08

Enjoy what? Reform has won control of 14 out of 131 councils so far. I think there are 5 more results to come in.

That is impressive for a new party, but they have not exactly taken over the whole of local government in England. And they have won no power nationally in Wales and Scotland.

Yet.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 14:24

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 14:05

Yet.

I suspect this might be Reform's peak. There are three years to go, plenty of time for them to be exposed. But Labour and the Tories need need up their games.

But time will tell.

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 14:44

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 11:49

I'm pretty sure NF being linked to AT will not put off anyone considering a Reform vote. In fact, I would genuinely be more surprised if I heard someone say they voted Reform but they didn't agree with AT!

Strange that women would feel that way though surely.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 14:53

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 14:44

Strange that women would feel that way though surely.

A lot of teenagers/ young men who think AT is great have girlfriends. I can only imagine they somehow believe the misogyny is not directed towards them. The whole 'you're not like other girls' thing...

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 15:23

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics. Two years ago Labour won a landslide, now this mess.

As Restore politicians take up office and realise delivering is more difficult than sniping, the picture could change rapidly. They’re also about to be put under far mor scrutiny; it’s easy to be popular when you don’t have to implement anything.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 15:33

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 15:23

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics. Two years ago Labour won a landslide, now this mess.

As Restore politicians take up office and realise delivering is more difficult than sniping, the picture could change rapidly. They’re also about to be put under far mor scrutiny; it’s easy to be popular when you don’t have to implement anything.

A lot of people on this chat forget three years is a long time in politics

That is very true. Three years ago the Tories were polling at 25% Labour at 43% Reform at 7%. Plenty of time for current polling to be upended in the same way the polls from three years ago have been.

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