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Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour

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hollyandtheivy26 · 08/05/2026 23:37

Aplogies for the typo in the title. If you think this makes me look stupid, you are proving that you are a bigoted bully, flailing around in desperation. It's just a typo, entirely down to a slightly sub par keyboard.

Restore took all ten council seats. Anywhere it stood, it won. Many Reform voters have indicated they'd have voted Restore but since they were unavailable they voted Reform as next best. Starmer still refusing to leave, in line totalitarian dictators of old, Starmer's response being, basically "People didn't vote for us because we didn't do all the things they didn't want and didn't vote for even faster".

Farage's Reform UK Party currently standing at 1237 Seats - having won 1235 seats. Starmer's Labour Party has lost 1,108 Seats and retains only 801. And literally 10/10 for Restore :)

So the question is - do the excessively far left radicals (who are highly active on mumsnet but have never represented the majority in real life) still believe that repeatedly using the slur of racist and calling the majority of British people stupid for having absolutely standard uncontroversial reviews, was the right thing to do? Will you continue to use that failed tactic in an attempt to silence your opponents?

Further to that, are you aware that calling me racist, stupid and the others slurs you are itching to type is an obvious and ignorant own goal and only proves the point I am making?

Or do you find shouting slurs at the majority of UK citizens cathartic, so you will still attempt to use these slurs, despite them no longer having any meaning or power?

YABU

Or have you finally understood that the majority of the UK are standard, average people hold uncontroversial views and that they have perfectly valid reasons to vote Reform and Restore? Are you able to understand that people you have been trying to silence with the slurs of Nazi, racist and "far right" are in fact perfectly centrist, commonplace and average voters? Can you learn from your mistakes moving forward?

YANBU

To assist you with critical thinking, here's a quick recap of Starmer's failures:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.
Raised the minimum wage and National Insurance contributions, leading to thousands of job losses and businesses folding.
Continuing to pursue the politics of envy, introduced VAT to private school fees leading to many excellent seats of learning closing their doors.
Removed winter fuel payments to pensioners, despite his own party claiming a couple of years earlier that this would result in pensioner deaths.
Consistently refused to answer questions during the session in the parliamentary week set aside for this specific purpose.
Unilaterally gave away billions of pounds of taxpayers money with no accountability required from the recipient.
Failed to control mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
Introduced legislation that will destroy the private rental market and create hundreds of thousands of homeless families.
Promised to build 1.5 million homes in five years despite everyone telling him it would be impossible.
Failed to address muslim rape gangs.
Increased welfare payments to a point where benefits now cost more than the entire income tax take.
Allowed weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches on UK streets.
Completly ignored the massive rise of anti semitism, attempted to gaslight the UK on the subject.
Consistently referred to people with concerns about the proliferation of migrant violence as "Far Right".
Promoted a friend to high office while knowing he was chums with one of the most prolific paedophiles on the planet.
Consistently worked to reverse the result of the biggest democratic vote in British history by stealth.
Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts.
Invited a known islamist terrorist to No.10 while simultaneously banning foreign commentators from the UK for merely reporting on the border fiasco.
Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked.
Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran.
Continues to allow Ed Milliband to wreck the UK's energy industry with his unworkable and deeply unpopular Net Zero policies.
Consistently failed to accept responsibility for any wrong doing.
Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side.

Well, Britain is going to bed refreshed and energised, a new day has dawned, the British are delighted to see the first step taken towards celebrating and reinstating the British way of life (insert obvious and boring comment from radical far leftist as British people are not allowed to have the same rights as other countries to enjoy and be enthusiastic about, or celebrate their thousands of years of heritage).

Well done Reform, you'll do for now until Restore has the time to swoop in and win across the board :)

And well done Restore, an amazing start - figuratively and literally ten out of ten :)

What a huge relief 😍

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OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 07:52

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/05/2026 00:02

Just gonna leave this here...

I’m not sure this is the flex you think it is.

There a word for voting this way. Cognitive dissonance. Greens hate women.

Women voting for a party that doesn’t believe in women, and thinks that a man can be a woman.

A party that wants legalized class A drugs and prostitution.

A party that wants open borders and mass immigration. And says that all illegal immigrants should be brought in.

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 07:53

JacknDiane · 09/05/2026 07:45

Cos someone on fb says

Reform don’t like the word “how” in any discussion.

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 07:54

connie26 · 09/05/2026 07:52

No, people didn't think this was a GE. Stop being so arrogant. It's a clear message that people have had enough of seeing the country going down the pan and want change.

It's not arrogance. See the image I posted above. You also only have to look at the number of people on Mumsnet alone who seem to think that this would be the end of the Labour government, let alone Kier Starmer.

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 07:56

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 07:18

And here's me thinking councils done bins,roads etc.
Didn't realise a council could deploy the Royal Navy🤣🤣🤣.
Thanks for highlighting the stupidity

Quite. I'm unclear as to how landlocked Newcastle-under-Lyme council launch the Navy. But there we are.

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 08:01

JacknDiane · 09/05/2026 07:45

Cos someone on fb says

That settles it then if it was on FB..it must be trooo.😁
Taxi driver in Ne Scottish city,tells me he voted reform because
Stop the boats...mmm UK govt decides policy.
Too much health and safety in the Nsea..wait for it..compared to Nigeria who can produce oil cheaper.
Nsea drilling for more oil..That's decided by UK govt and besides that it gets sold on the international markets.
FB dweller and it showed.

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 08:01

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 07:52

I’m not sure this is the flex you think it is.

There a word for voting this way. Cognitive dissonance. Greens hate women.

Women voting for a party that doesn’t believe in women, and thinks that a man can be a woman.

A party that wants legalized class A drugs and prostitution.

A party that wants open borders and mass immigration. And says that all illegal immigrants should be brought in.

Edited

Reform is the anti feminist party if you truly care about women’s rights( pretty sure you don’t).

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-nigel-farage-equality-act-pregnant-women-maternity-b2967253.html

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/21/nigel-farage-women-problem-trump-style-provocation-prejudice

Look up newly elected Regorm councillor Stuart Prior

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/05/mps-demand-reform-suspend-candidate-over-claims-he-celebrated-of-sikh-women

Reform plans ‘threaten maternity leave and job security for 500,000 pregnant women’

Exclusive: As many as half a million pregnant women could be left without protection each year, new analysis shows

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-nigel-farage-equality-act-pregnant-women-maternity-b2967253.html

thepariscrimefiles · 09/05/2026 08:03

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You jumped the shark with this:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.

If Keir Starmer had moved to the left, particularly on Israel/Palestine, he wouldn't have lost so many voters to the Greens and Independent candidates.

Your suggestion that the 'never Reform' and 'never Restore' voters need to read more is an absolute joke. A poll on voting by education level says 42% of people whose top qualification is GCSE or lower would vote Reform. Only 13% of people educated to degree level would back Reform.

Maybe you can tell us about the successful things that Reform/Restore councillors have achieved in office rather than just spewing out insults in all directions.

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 08:04

I’m just glad the boats are finally going to stop now.

Praise be.

Gallowayan · 09/05/2026 08:07

I have honestly never heard of a political party called Restore??

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am not going to say you are thick, but I do believe they are making a monkey out of you.

What have they actually done so far to make you any better off apart from criticise and blame others for the state of the country. They have succeded very well at lining their own pockets. Actually being in power is harder than being an armchair pundit.
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What they think they could do, if voted in at a general election, has not been tested. And what you think they could do, does not mean that much to me, in the face of the evidence so far.

Locally they have not reduced council tax bills as they said they would or even shown up, in many cases, to represent thei voters at council meetings.

justinhawkinsnavalfluff · 09/05/2026 08:14

Gallowayan · 09/05/2026 08:07

I have honestly never heard of a political party called Restore??

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am not going to say you are thick, but I do believe they are making a monkey out of you.

What have they actually done so far to make you any better off apart from criticise and blame others for the state of the country. They have succeded very well at lining their own pockets. Actually being in power is harder than being an armchair pundit.
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What they think they could do, if voted in at a general election, has not been tested. And what you think they could do, does not mean that much to me, in the face of the evidence so far.

Locally they have not reduced council tax bills as they said they would or even shown up, in many cases, to represent thei voters at council meetings.

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Have a look at Warwickshire. Reform have given them lots of.....flags....

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 08:17

@thepariscrimefiles They bought some flags.🤣

FudgeFudy · 09/05/2026 08:29

Here we go again. 'If you say I'm stupid I'll punch myself in the face'. Well, you're stupid then. Have fun.

Winteriscoming80 · 09/05/2026 08:44

I agree with you op,only the middle class/rich or the elites won’t agree with you,
they don’t see what goes on day to day,
people need to realise that calling us far right or neo whatever carries no weight with us anymore.

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 08:55

Copying pasting a load of random links doesn’t make the Greens pro women or any less dangerous.

Green supporters turn up to women’s right marches to assault women and shout TERF abuse at them.

Anyone who thinks that a woman can have a penis, basically hates women. If you want to support women hating parties, that’s on you.

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 08:57

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 08:55

Copying pasting a load of random links doesn’t make the Greens pro women or any less dangerous.

Green supporters turn up to women’s right marches to assault women and shout TERF abuse at them.

Anyone who thinks that a woman can have a penis, basically hates women. If you want to support women hating parties, that’s on you.

Wow so you ignore all the above and don’t wish to comment on it or even excuse it. Wow, just wow!

FernandoSor · 09/05/2026 08:57

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 07:54

It's not arrogance. See the image I posted above. You also only have to look at the number of people on Mumsnet alone who seem to think that this would be the end of the Labour government, let alone Kier Starmer.

The image you posted above was from a social media bot account, likely a foreign provocateur. No one in real life thinks thinks this was a general election.

NaranjaSilla · 09/05/2026 08:59

Winteriscoming80 · 09/05/2026 08:44

I agree with you op,only the middle class/rich or the elites won’t agree with you,
they don’t see what goes on day to day,
people need to realise that calling us far right or neo whatever carries no weight with us anymore.

I’m not rich or elite. I’m of a working class background. I fundamentally disagree with them and all they stand for.

As a woman, a working mother and someone with an ‘immigrant’ parent, what could these people do for me and my family? Let alone the country.

They do a good job of pretending to be ‘just like you’. They do a good job of weaponising people’s anger at the hardships they face and that their local services have been consistently underfunded and mismanaged. They also lean into the fact that people just don’t like certain groups of people. And all while pointing a few vulnerable people on a boat as if they’re the ones to blame, no one will question what they’re getting out of it. I don’t believe it’s you or me who will benefit from them holding any sort of power. They’re telling us how they’re willing to treat people, if they did manage to do anything about immigration there’ll be another group in firing line next.

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 09:07

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 08:57

Wow so you ignore all the above and don’t wish to comment on it or even excuse it. Wow, just wow!

Why do you support disgusting misogynists like the Greens? What is your problem with women?

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 09:07

Lucyjuicy · 09/05/2026 07:37

Bot/ troll/ racist/ lacking in critical thinking etc etc. You're all certainly taking the bait. It's how easily you're played every time Reform is mentioned. Obsessed. Bye 👋 👋 got VE celebrations to prepare for

The VE day where we celebrate victory over what kind of regime? Oh yes, one very similar to... Reform/Restore 🙄
And you hope NF gets to keep his mega EU pension whilst hoping other public servants lose theirs? Why begrudge them theirs? Even if they didn't do much for 40 years they still will have done a lot more than he did for his. Or is it just because you are presuming they have different politics to you?

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 09:08

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 09:07

Why do you support disgusting misogynists like the Greens? What is your problem with women?

Still nothing to say about Reforms strident anti feminist beliefs.

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 09:10

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 09:07

Why do you support disgusting misogynists like the Greens? What is your problem with women?

I’ve not said who I support.

Your anti Green rhetoric is telling, however you have a shed load of anti feminist Reform bile to defend. So crack on.

NorthXNorthWest · 09/05/2026 09:23

SidekickSylvia · 09/05/2026 06:53

I don't think it was suggesting that women over 51 can't vote (or men of any age), it was just demonstrating how women between 18 to 50 vote. And they are also the same demographic as many mumsnetters.

Why just that age range? What special properties does that group have? Or are you just trying to visually demonstrate lies, damn lies and statistics?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/05/2026 09:25

ByKindNavySwan · 09/05/2026 07:54

It's not arrogance. See the image I posted above. You also only have to look at the number of people on Mumsnet alone who seem to think that this would be the end of the Labour government, let alone Kier Starmer.

One random undated fb post isn’t evidence of your claim.

If you constantly dismiss anyone who disagrees with your views as stupid, you’re going to keep being surprised.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 09:26

Honestly, if you are a person with any chance of losing your job, a carer, a member of any group which currently has protected characteristics, have the future misfortune to become very sick or disabled etc, this party are not going to support you. If you ever need to claim benefits you'll become one of the people on the receiving end of the 'scrounger' rhetoric unless you can self fund a decent standard of living through the bad times, as long as they last. And there aren't actually many of us that could do that.
Obviously for now they are only able to influence decisions at a local level. But, I hope people will think a lot more about the potential for disaster in their own lives if this lot were elected to government.

Tableforjoan · 09/05/2026 09:32

thepariscrimefiles · 09/05/2026 08:03

You jumped the shark with this:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.

If Keir Starmer had moved to the left, particularly on Israel/Palestine, he wouldn't have lost so many voters to the Greens and Independent candidates.

Your suggestion that the 'never Reform' and 'never Restore' voters need to read more is an absolute joke. A poll on voting by education level says 42% of people whose top qualification is GCSE or lower would vote Reform. Only 13% of people educated to degree level would back Reform.

Maybe you can tell us about the successful things that Reform/Restore councillors have achieved in office rather than just spewing out insults in all directions.

Now I did not vote reform.

However lower levels of education meaning more likely to vote reform would explain more of the hatred towards immigration on the basis of the jobs the lower paid immigrants take are the very same jobs that are open to them. Also living in economically lower paid areas. Putting pressure on housing and such.

So to them it would make perfect sense because what they see to them is these people coming over and taking their jobs and pushing them out.

If you’re a nice high earner with a uni degree living in a leafy suburb those problems are unlikely to be impacting on your life or feel like they are.

So I can see why it makes sense to them.

Doesn’t mean reform will fix it but I guess it feels like the only option they have that might do something to help them.