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Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour

134 replies

hollyandtheivy26 · 08/05/2026 23:37

Aplogies for the typo in the title. If you think this makes me look stupid, you are proving that you are a bigoted bully, flailing around in desperation. It's just a typo, entirely down to a slightly sub par keyboard.

Restore took all ten council seats. Anywhere it stood, it won. Many Reform voters have indicated they'd have voted Restore but since they were unavailable they voted Reform as next best. Starmer still refusing to leave, in line totalitarian dictators of old, Starmer's response being, basically "People didn't vote for us because we didn't do all the things they didn't want and didn't vote for even faster".

Farage's Reform UK Party currently standing at 1237 Seats - having won 1235 seats. Starmer's Labour Party has lost 1,108 Seats and retains only 801. And literally 10/10 for Restore :)

So the question is - do the excessively far left radicals (who are highly active on mumsnet but have never represented the majority in real life) still believe that repeatedly using the slur of racist and calling the majority of British people stupid for having absolutely standard uncontroversial reviews, was the right thing to do? Will you continue to use that failed tactic in an attempt to silence your opponents?

Further to that, are you aware that calling me racist, stupid and the others slurs you are itching to type is an obvious and ignorant own goal and only proves the point I am making?

Or do you find shouting slurs at the majority of UK citizens cathartic, so you will still attempt to use these slurs, despite them no longer having any meaning or power?

YABU

Or have you finally understood that the majority of the UK are standard, average people hold uncontroversial views and that they have perfectly valid reasons to vote Reform and Restore? Are you able to understand that people you have been trying to silence with the slurs of Nazi, racist and "far right" are in fact perfectly centrist, commonplace and average voters? Can you learn from your mistakes moving forward?

YANBU

To assist you with critical thinking, here's a quick recap of Starmer's failures:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.
Raised the minimum wage and National Insurance contributions, leading to thousands of job losses and businesses folding.
Continuing to pursue the politics of envy, introduced VAT to private school fees leading to many excellent seats of learning closing their doors.
Removed winter fuel payments to pensioners, despite his own party claiming a couple of years earlier that this would result in pensioner deaths.
Consistently refused to answer questions during the session in the parliamentary week set aside for this specific purpose.
Unilaterally gave away billions of pounds of taxpayers money with no accountability required from the recipient.
Failed to control mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
Introduced legislation that will destroy the private rental market and create hundreds of thousands of homeless families.
Promised to build 1.5 million homes in five years despite everyone telling him it would be impossible.
Failed to address muslim rape gangs.
Increased welfare payments to a point where benefits now cost more than the entire income tax take.
Allowed weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches on UK streets.
Completly ignored the massive rise of anti semitism, attempted to gaslight the UK on the subject.
Consistently referred to people with concerns about the proliferation of migrant violence as "Far Right".
Promoted a friend to high office while knowing he was chums with one of the most prolific paedophiles on the planet.
Consistently worked to reverse the result of the biggest democratic vote in British history by stealth.
Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts.
Invited a known islamist terrorist to No.10 while simultaneously banning foreign commentators from the UK for merely reporting on the border fiasco.
Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked.
Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran.
Continues to allow Ed Milliband to wreck the UK's energy industry with his unworkable and deeply unpopular Net Zero policies.
Consistently failed to accept responsibility for any wrong doing.
Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side.

Well, Britain is going to bed refreshed and energised, a new day has dawned, the British are delighted to see the first step taken towards celebrating and reinstating the British way of life (insert obvious and boring comment from radical far leftist as British people are not allowed to have the same rights as other countries to enjoy and be enthusiastic about, or celebrate their thousands of years of heritage).

Well done Reform, you'll do for now until Restore has the time to swoop in and win across the board :)

And well done Restore, an amazing start - figuratively and literally ten out of ten :)

What a huge relief 😍

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Tinychihuahua · 09/05/2026 09:35

Winteriscoming80 · 09/05/2026 08:44

I agree with you op,only the middle class/rich or the elites won’t agree with you,
they don’t see what goes on day to day,
people need to realise that calling us far right or neo whatever carries no weight with us anymore.

That’s cool, I look forward to watching a Reform government in action.
It is precisely what you deserve, and it will be delicious to see.

It will be like watching the Walking Dead in real life. Highly entertaining.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/05/2026 09:36

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 09:10

I’ve not said who I support.

Your anti Green rhetoric is telling, however you have a shed load of anti feminist Reform bile to defend. So crack on.

Reporting the Greens ridiculous policies and anti women stance is not ‘anti-Green rhetoric’.

They proudly deny the existence of women as a sex distinct from men and seek to deny women our sex based rights (plus a load of other policies that are hurting women), they can’t get any more anti women than that but you need to accept that they are responsible for their views.

shed load of anti feminist Reform bile

Do you have any Reform policies or direct quotes that reflect your rather sweeping claim against them? Interestingly no one else with your views has been able to produce anything of substance. Maybe you can?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/05/2026 09:40

Tinychihuahua · 09/05/2026 09:35

That’s cool, I look forward to watching a Reform government in action.
It is precisely what you deserve, and it will be delicious to see.

It will be like watching the Walking Dead in real life. Highly entertaining.

What a very bizarre and quite ludicrous comment. Are you feeling quite alright?

I see you are keen to prove @Winteriscoming80 s point though.

ProudCat · 09/05/2026 09:41

hollyandtheivy26 · 08/05/2026 23:37

Aplogies for the typo in the title. If you think this makes me look stupid, you are proving that you are a bigoted bully, flailing around in desperation. It's just a typo, entirely down to a slightly sub par keyboard.

Restore took all ten council seats. Anywhere it stood, it won. Many Reform voters have indicated they'd have voted Restore but since they were unavailable they voted Reform as next best. Starmer still refusing to leave, in line totalitarian dictators of old, Starmer's response being, basically "People didn't vote for us because we didn't do all the things they didn't want and didn't vote for even faster".

Farage's Reform UK Party currently standing at 1237 Seats - having won 1235 seats. Starmer's Labour Party has lost 1,108 Seats and retains only 801. And literally 10/10 for Restore :)

So the question is - do the excessively far left radicals (who are highly active on mumsnet but have never represented the majority in real life) still believe that repeatedly using the slur of racist and calling the majority of British people stupid for having absolutely standard uncontroversial reviews, was the right thing to do? Will you continue to use that failed tactic in an attempt to silence your opponents?

Further to that, are you aware that calling me racist, stupid and the others slurs you are itching to type is an obvious and ignorant own goal and only proves the point I am making?

Or do you find shouting slurs at the majority of UK citizens cathartic, so you will still attempt to use these slurs, despite them no longer having any meaning or power?

YABU

Or have you finally understood that the majority of the UK are standard, average people hold uncontroversial views and that they have perfectly valid reasons to vote Reform and Restore? Are you able to understand that people you have been trying to silence with the slurs of Nazi, racist and "far right" are in fact perfectly centrist, commonplace and average voters? Can you learn from your mistakes moving forward?

YANBU

To assist you with critical thinking, here's a quick recap of Starmer's failures:

Pursued a hard line, far left globalist agenda at the expense of UK citizens, against their wishes.
Raised the minimum wage and National Insurance contributions, leading to thousands of job losses and businesses folding.
Continuing to pursue the politics of envy, introduced VAT to private school fees leading to many excellent seats of learning closing their doors.
Removed winter fuel payments to pensioners, despite his own party claiming a couple of years earlier that this would result in pensioner deaths.
Consistently refused to answer questions during the session in the parliamentary week set aside for this specific purpose.
Unilaterally gave away billions of pounds of taxpayers money with no accountability required from the recipient.
Failed to control mass immigration, both legal and illegal.
Introduced legislation that will destroy the private rental market and create hundreds of thousands of homeless families.
Promised to build 1.5 million homes in five years despite everyone telling him it would be impossible.
Failed to address muslim rape gangs.
Increased welfare payments to a point where benefits now cost more than the entire income tax take.
Allowed weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches on UK streets.
Completly ignored the massive rise of anti semitism, attempted to gaslight the UK on the subject.
Consistently referred to people with concerns about the proliferation of migrant violence as "Far Right".
Promoted a friend to high office while knowing he was chums with one of the most prolific paedophiles on the planet.
Consistently worked to reverse the result of the biggest democratic vote in British history by stealth.
Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts.
Invited a known islamist terrorist to No.10 while simultaneously banning foreign commentators from the UK for merely reporting on the border fiasco.
Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked.
Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran.
Continues to allow Ed Milliband to wreck the UK's energy industry with his unworkable and deeply unpopular Net Zero policies.
Consistently failed to accept responsibility for any wrong doing.
Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side.

Well, Britain is going to bed refreshed and energised, a new day has dawned, the British are delighted to see the first step taken towards celebrating and reinstating the British way of life (insert obvious and boring comment from radical far leftist as British people are not allowed to have the same rights as other countries to enjoy and be enthusiastic about, or celebrate their thousands of years of heritage).

Well done Reform, you'll do for now until Restore has the time to swoop in and win across the board :)

And well done Restore, an amazing start - figuratively and literally ten out of ten :)

What a huge relief 😍

I'm not sure who you think the 'excessively far left radicals' are??? Most normal people would consider referring to Sunak as an 'effing P*' to be a racial slur - Reform UK canvasser.

In terms of whether we, as a democratic nation who've respected the rule of law since 1215, will be 'powerless' in the face of this Trump inspired onslaught, unlikely. There's no provision whatsoever in our 'constitution' for executive orders and so the Equalities Act and a multitude of other laws will stand. Somewhat famously, we also have the separation of powers that keeps government entirely apart from our courts (again, this stretches back to medieval times) and so there won't be any crony appointments to the benches. For the 'patriotic' Reform party to change this, they would literally have to destroy nearly 1,000 years of English history. As someone who loves my country, I would oppose allowing people to do this. I believe the vast majority of British people, who value our distinct culture, would stand with me.

So to take some of your points:

Pretty sure the average worker doesn't want to see the minimum wage scrapped and zero hour contracts reintroduced. Maybe a bunch of people over the age of 55 don't care so much.

The introduction of VAT on school fees hasn't led to 'many excellent seats of learning closing their doors'. There's no evidence for this. Sure, several schools who were already struggling, and a contributory factor to this has been the massive rise in utilities (and of course the cost of living crisis has impacted the fee paying parents as well), did close but it wasn't due to this single factor. Very disturbing that people want to dumb down their analysis as if the British public can be spoken to like simpletons who can't understand that more than one thing can be true at the same time.

The winter fuel payments haven't been removed, it's just that they're now means tested for those with an income of over £35,000. Are people with more than £35,000 likely to be freezing to death? Sounds like you're making this up.

Didn't answer questions in parliament, have away £millions ... This is so vague as to be meaningless. Are you talking about Johnson refusing to come to parliament and the PPE scandal?

Failed to control mass immigration: it's gone down under Starmer. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact based on evidence. It actually went up under the Tories, some of whom are now in Reform. In other words, a vote for Reform is a vote to allow uncontrolled mass immigration.

The renters rights legislation won't destroy the private rental market. Good landlords won't be affected. Again, you make another claim with absolutely no evidence. If the private rental market was about to collapse, for the past year we'd have seen a housing crash as a glut of properties appeared for sale. This isn't what's happened.

Every government in the past few decades has promised to build new homes and failed to live up to that promise. Are Reform promising to build new homes? What's their exact policy announcement on this?

Failed to address Muslim rape gangs: what are you on about? Starmer is literally the only PM to address this with the Statutory Independent Inquiry into Grooming Gangs launched last month (April 2026). The real issue here is why people who were sitting in the Tory government from 2010, and who have since defected to Reform, did absolutely nothing. I'm other words, if you don't want any action taken on grooming gangs, vote Reform.

Benefits: Ah yes, the strivers and skivers argument. Probably needs a separate thread.

Actually, didn't allow Palestinian marches, moved to stop them resulting in 1,000s of arrests, is married to a Jew and bringing up his children as Jewish. Not sure how you can possibly claim he's anti Semitic.

Not sure about the Epstein thing. Trump is also up to his neck in it. The reason Mandelson was chosen was because he would get on with Trump, like Farage does, they're really good mates.

In terms of reversing BREXIT, he hasn't though has he? Despite a massive parliamentary majority, he's respected the will of the people. It's just another one of your dog whistles.

Placed tax dodgers, fraudsters and CV fantasists in Ministerial posts: very vague, are you talking about Johnson again and the bevvy of Tories who've now joined Reform?

Took two weeks to find a Royal Navy ship that actually worked: an issue he inherited from the people now in Reform who ran the MOD for 14 years.

Failed to help motorists and hauliers after the rise in the price of fuel caused by the war in Iran: caused by Trump. Let's be clear. Issues that we now have are because of Trump's policies. Farage loves Trump. He respects those policies.

Green energy isn't what's wrecking our economy. The financial crash of 2008 did that. I believe Farage was a trader at this time. Poor Reform voters don't even realise that they're literally electing the people responsible for this whole mess. Of course they're blaming green energy because they don't want people to find out it was them really. For example, Yusuf was right in the thick of it. He worked at both Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs before the crash.

Alienated "working people" while claiming to be on their side: presumably, these are the same working people who want to live in unregulated rentals and forgo the protection of a minimum / liveable wage? Median UK household income is about £37k.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/05/2026 09:53

Tableforjoan · 09/05/2026 09:32

Now I did not vote reform.

However lower levels of education meaning more likely to vote reform would explain more of the hatred towards immigration on the basis of the jobs the lower paid immigrants take are the very same jobs that are open to them. Also living in economically lower paid areas. Putting pressure on housing and such.

So to them it would make perfect sense because what they see to them is these people coming over and taking their jobs and pushing them out.

If you’re a nice high earner with a uni degree living in a leafy suburb those problems are unlikely to be impacting on your life or feel like they are.

So I can see why it makes sense to them.

Doesn’t mean reform will fix it but I guess it feels like the only option they have that might do something to help them.

Where I live in a major city, all the white working class areas with very few immigrants have voted for Reform, while the more diverse, multi-ethnic areas have voted Green and Independent.

My ward has gone to Reform. There are lots of elderly white people where I live who don't look in the best of health and Nigel Farage's proposal to get rid of the NHS and move to an insurance model if he wins a General Election would have a massive negative impact on their lives. But getting rid of foreigners is more important apparently.

Winteriscoming80 · 09/05/2026 10:12

Tinychihuahua · 09/05/2026 09:35

That’s cool, I look forward to watching a Reform government in action.
It is precisely what you deserve, and it will be delicious to see.

It will be like watching the Walking Dead in real life. Highly entertaining.

Where did I say I voted reform?

NorthXNorthWest · 09/05/2026 10:18

hollyandtheivy26 · 09/05/2026 00:10

Oh, I avoided bullet points so nobody would pretend they thought this was Chat GPT, just by the way :)

But it's an easily accessible post, easy to read with a simple list, so hopefully not too much for most of you.

If you find my post difficult to comprehend, please do get off the screens and read more books, that will help with concentration and critical thinking.

And I do apologise for this rather cheap keyboard, will replace asap as it's not helpful to have occasional typos, especially given how desperate some of you are to pretend you the average Reform/Restore voter is stupid 😂

Edited

Is that you Nige? The lack of self awareness kinda reminds me of all those times you were insulting all those MEPs to their faces. It's mighty ranty and self-righteous for someone with a Party that is only "halfway ready" to lead.

What was your backing music whist you were typing? Go by the Chemical Brothers? I can almost hear you shriek mid way through.

Gtfto2024 · 09/05/2026 10:24

Tableforjoan · 09/05/2026 09:32

Now I did not vote reform.

However lower levels of education meaning more likely to vote reform would explain more of the hatred towards immigration on the basis of the jobs the lower paid immigrants take are the very same jobs that are open to them. Also living in economically lower paid areas. Putting pressure on housing and such.

So to them it would make perfect sense because what they see to them is these people coming over and taking their jobs and pushing them out.

If you’re a nice high earner with a uni degree living in a leafy suburb those problems are unlikely to be impacting on your life or feel like they are.

So I can see why it makes sense to them.

Doesn’t mean reform will fix it but I guess it feels like the only option they have that might do something to help them.

Are you speaking from experience, that you have a low level of education, are unemployed on benefits (that reform want to scrap) and have a hatred of foreign people stealing your job?

Or, are you parroting this line, claiming to speak for a percentage of people when what you say is actually made up rubbish?

The foreigners that are simultaneously getting all the benefits and living in fancy hotels whilst not working, and stealing all the jobs.

Education is definitely the way forward.

NorthXNorthWest · 09/05/2026 10:30

SidekickSylvia · 09/05/2026 06:53

I don't think it was suggesting that women over 51 can't vote (or men of any age), it was just demonstrating how women between 18 to 50 vote. And they are also the same demographic as many mumsnetters.

According to Ai it is 25-44 yrs. 18-50 just seems to be an obscure group to select.

NorthXNorthWest · 09/05/2026 10:38

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 08:04

I’m just glad the boats are finally going to stop now.

Praise be.

Under his eye🤣

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 10:42

ClockClocCloClC · 09/05/2026 08:04

I’m just glad the boats are finally going to stop now.

Praise be.

Local councils do not decide UK immigration policy.
Unless your comment was sarcasm

SquirrelSoShiny · 09/05/2026 10:47

PomplaMouse · 09/05/2026 01:29

I got as far as "leader of elected government refuses to resign midterm, like a totalitarian dictator".

I know calling them thick doesn't win hearts and minds, but the OP's post is an example of the profound stupidity and social media brain rot that will push the UK - already in decline - over the cliff edge.

I can't help but agree. Adults have outsourced their critical thinking and rely on sloganeering and whatever their mate Barry the Chem Trails Conspiracy Theorist / You Tube / Algorithms have told them.

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 10:55

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 07:52

I’m not sure this is the flex you think it is.

There a word for voting this way. Cognitive dissonance. Greens hate women.

Women voting for a party that doesn’t believe in women, and thinks that a man can be a woman.

A party that wants legalized class A drugs and prostitution.

A party that wants open borders and mass immigration. And says that all illegal immigrants should be brought in.

Edited

Farage's mate = Andrew Tate.

Starmergeddon - Restore and Reform reflect the mainstream, crushing humiliaton for Labour
Tableforjoan · 09/05/2026 11:31

Gtfto2024 · 09/05/2026 10:24

Are you speaking from experience, that you have a low level of education, are unemployed on benefits (that reform want to scrap) and have a hatred of foreign people stealing your job?

Or, are you parroting this line, claiming to speak for a percentage of people when what you say is actually made up rubbish?

The foreigners that are simultaneously getting all the benefits and living in fancy hotels whilst not working, and stealing all the jobs.

Education is definitely the way forward.

Edited

No I have a job thank you very much.

Just try to see what might drive those to vote for them rather than just lumping them all as complete idiots.

Though I can see why people don’t bother to get involved in the conversation at all as by making a comment about why they might I’m asked if I’m unemployed and hate foreigners 🤣

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 11:32

If some folks can’t control the hysterics at the council election results, they might spontaneously combust when the GE happens. It’s like watching Brexit all over again. So much drama, and such bad loser vibe. You did this to yourselves by constantly calling reasonable people racists. Now enjoy.

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 11:49

WildGarden · 09/05/2026 10:55

Farage's mate = Andrew Tate.

I'm pretty sure NF being linked to AT will not put off anyone considering a Reform vote. In fact, I would genuinely be more surprised if I heard someone say they voted Reform but they didn't agree with AT!

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

ElizaMulvil · 09/05/2026 12:04

What should alarm everyone about Reform is that it is designed as a limited company owned by Farage. It is not a political party like the others in the UK. Members cannot elect the leader etc., cannot send resolutions to conference to be voted on, cannot therefore affect / change its policies, It is deeply undemocratic, founded by Farage who is advertising his fascist beliefs in plain sight. Farage is the leader and cannot be removed.

The British people have fought for their democratic rights since 1215 Magna Carta, 19th century campaigns for universal voting rights for all adults, 20th century votes for women etc etc.

Reform are determined to break with this.

This is straightforward fascism which we hoped we had defeated in WW2. Once Reform/ fascists get into power we will have no ability to remove them by voting them out. The tactic of fascists is to abolish future elections, imprison their political opponents, send them to concentration camps, kill the disabled as a drain on resources, blame the most vulnerable for the problems the working people face.

'First they came for the Communists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for Trade Unionists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out

Because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.'

This was written by Pastor Martin Niemooler who had naively supported Hitler's Nazi/Fascist Party originally until he too was sent to a concentration camp for complaining about Hitler's attacks on his church.

A warning from history.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 09/05/2026 12:08

hollyandtheivy26 · 09/05/2026 00:10

Oh, I avoided bullet points so nobody would pretend they thought this was Chat GPT, just by the way :)

But it's an easily accessible post, easy to read with a simple list, so hopefully not too much for most of you.

If you find my post difficult to comprehend, please do get off the screens and read more books, that will help with concentration and critical thinking.

And I do apologise for this rather cheap keyboard, will replace asap as it's not helpful to have occasional typos, especially given how desperate some of you are to pretend you the average Reform/Restore voter is stupid 😂

Edited

Maybe if you earned more money you could afford the better keyboard?

Just another incentive for you in favour of minimum wage increasing.

Plus you wouldn't have to use one made by the foreigners you so clearly despise?

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 12:08

OneTealShaker · 09/05/2026 11:32

If some folks can’t control the hysterics at the council election results, they might spontaneously combust when the GE happens. It’s like watching Brexit all over again. So much drama, and such bad loser vibe. You did this to yourselves by constantly calling reasonable people racists. Now enjoy.

Enjoy what? Reform has won control of 14 out of 131 councils so far. I think there are 5 more results to come in.

That is impressive for a new party, but they have not exactly taken over the whole of local government in England. And they have won no power nationally in Wales and Scotland.

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:13

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

Edited

What are you on about..won every single seat?
I think you'll find they didn't.
I'm happy for reform to control some councils at local level because they will fuck it up and show their incompetence before getting a sniff of national power.

BillyButlerTheRightTrackNsoul · 09/05/2026 12:20

ilovebrie8 · 09/05/2026 12:02

Starmer the most disliked PM ever brought the second most disliked PM ever Gordon Brown to Downing Street today, desperate measures !

Reform smashed it, quite unbelievable what they have done and Restore won every single seat. That shows the direction of travel. Labour are finito they’ve wreaked havoc in less than 2 years.
All the things OP listed …turned against their own.

They will never recover as a party.

Edited

Read your post again I correct myself yes Restore won all seats they stood for .I thought you meant Reform won every seat initially.

Don't like any of them to be fair

sofiathewurst · 09/05/2026 12:33

ElizaMulvil · 09/05/2026 12:04

What should alarm everyone about Reform is that it is designed as a limited company owned by Farage. It is not a political party like the others in the UK. Members cannot elect the leader etc., cannot send resolutions to conference to be voted on, cannot therefore affect / change its policies, It is deeply undemocratic, founded by Farage who is advertising his fascist beliefs in plain sight. Farage is the leader and cannot be removed.

The British people have fought for their democratic rights since 1215 Magna Carta, 19th century campaigns for universal voting rights for all adults, 20th century votes for women etc etc.

Reform are determined to break with this.

This is straightforward fascism which we hoped we had defeated in WW2. Once Reform/ fascists get into power we will have no ability to remove them by voting them out. The tactic of fascists is to abolish future elections, imprison their political opponents, send them to concentration camps, kill the disabled as a drain on resources, blame the most vulnerable for the problems the working people face.

'First they came for the Communists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for Trade Unionists
And I didn't speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out

Because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.'

This was written by Pastor Martin Niemooler who had naively supported Hitler's Nazi/Fascist Party originally until he too was sent to a concentration camp for complaining about Hitler's attacks on his church.

A warning from history.

Yes I agree. It's quite mind blowing that we have local councils now being run by basically a big company which is not a political party. I really don't think it should be allowed, as like you say, they are playing by and are bound by different rules.

Lisanne55 · 09/05/2026 12:48

Can I just point out that some of us had no elections on Thursday? Only about one third of councils in England had elections. The others have them at different times. Approx 26% of people in one third of England voting Reform is sizeable but by no means a majority of people in the UK.

Su1rlie · 09/05/2026 12:51

Lisanne55 · 09/05/2026 12:48

Can I just point out that some of us had no elections on Thursday? Only about one third of councils in England had elections. The others have them at different times. Approx 26% of people in one third of England voting Reform is sizeable but by no means a majority of people in the UK.

And they’re for council seats not parliament!