To not want to pay above a full tank of petrol for a lift to the airport?

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I fly from my “local” (2 hours away!) airport at the end of summer. My flight is in the early evening and I have an appointment in the morning.

My brother offered to give me a lift, it won’t affect his work as he’s on 0 hours and can just request a late start/no hours on that day (he usually doesn’t work on a Friday anyway).

I said yes please, and said I’d be happy to cover a tank of fuel as it would probably use about that to get there and back, and have some left over. (So I’m thinking about £40, he has a hybrid so it doesn’t use a ton of fuel).

He’s now said £40 plus £75 on top for “his time”

AIBU to think sod it, I’d rather just pay a taxi (about £100 according to local Facebook groups) because he’s being a CF?!

No, it would be cheaper to get a taxi so do that.

Looks like a taxi will be cheaper!

If he’s on zero hours, I assume he needs the money.

I would never expect a family member to drive me somewhere but it seems reasonable to offer him the same as the cost of a cab, and then he can decide.

Although get an actual quote, because FB posts are unreliable.

I’m just so baffled about why he’s said yes and then added charges on top! I think we came into this with different ideas 😂

I'd be so upset if one of my dc treated the other like that.

YANBU

He makes more than I do, he’s one of the most senior members of staff so gets a lot of flexibility

Does it matter why? Just go for the cheaper option.

Wait a minute, you are starting to sound like the CF here OP

Are you suggesting his time is worth £0 - it will be 4 hours out if his day.

How?

I asked him for a favour, he said yes. I said “cool, thanks, I’ll pay for a full tank of petrol, and if you want to stop on the way up/down, I’ll pay for food”. He’s then gone “thanks, and £75 on top please”

Well the cost of running a car is much more than the cost of fuel - servicing, insurance, tax, wear and tear.

So , I would have possibly agreed to a mileage charge equal to the cost per mile of his car ( which you can find on any car magazine)

But reimbursing his time does not seem very brotherly . So I am somewhere in the middle. £75 is CF territory, but I would probably offer a ‘tip’ so it was between the £40 and the cost of a taxi.

No, but I also think that as siblings that’s never really something I’ve even considered when doing him a favour? I’m just surprised that he sees it as very transactional when I’ve done a lot of favours and lifts all over the place for him

If it’s gonna cost me £115+ I’d rather just get a taxi or the train and wait at the airport for hours 😭

Can you not get a train or bus most of the way?

I think £75 for his time is ridiculous.

Yes he’s spending 4 hours to pick you up but surely it’s as a favour and you’re not hiring him to do a job.

Fair enough cover his fuel and I’d have chucked him £20 on top of bought him dinner on the way home but I wouldn’t pay for his time.

But you've only offered to pay for petrol - not wear and tear on the car. And he has to drive home too.
So 4 hours - c240 miles. 40p a mile is £96.
I think expecting anyone to give you 4h of their time for nothing is CF territory tbh.

I can but it’s just inconvenient so I thought I’d ask, don’t ask don’t get and all that. I was pretty happy when he said yes and then offered payment, which I was happy to do. But when he asked for time on top I was shocked 😂

Tell him to take the cost out of all the lifts and things you’ve given him over the years and didn’t charge him for at the time and that he didn’t offer to even give you the petrol cost for!!

I don’t expect it, I’ve asked a favour. Do you really do that? The number of lifts I’ve given over the years and not kept count of!

Well obviously you’d rather get a taxi if that’s the cheaper option?!?

You've asked a favour but obviously with an expectation. Why can't you just get yourself to the airport?

Insane way to treat family. Can’t imagine being so transactional with a sibling! So weird, mumsnet isn’t real 😂

Be blunt.

"Thanks for the offer, but a taxi is cheaper so I've booked one."

Yep.

I’d happily drive but I’m flying home into another airport so it won’t work! Like I’ve said I’m happy to get myself there but just thought I’d ask - if he’d said “yes I’ll do it free of charge” I’ve got a mega result there and saved myself a chunk of money! He’s my brother, it’s not like I’ve asked a random person