Council Elections

[OneTealShaker]

The first declared seats going to Reform.

Reform +2
Labour -1

Buckle up people.

Germany is now returning failed Afghan asylum seekers to Afghanistan. So it can be done, if there is a will to do it.

People thought like that as the Nazis rose to power. Extreme? This is where it starts. Whatever you are hoping for is not going to happen imo. Others here may agree/disagree with you.

When we show them an alternative that works way better for them that can be trusted? We COULD choose to do this. But many don't. It's not enough just to get frustrated and say "when will these stupid people learn?"

How would you persuade someone (or want politicians both local and national to persuade someone) who is thinking of voting Reform, say, to vote for someone else, and that it was in their own best interests to do so? How would you demonstrate that to them? How would you go about changing their minds?

They’ll be held to account here - NOC which will depend on Tory/Reform councillors voting together. I give it a month before they fall out.

there are reasons why some people are poor...

no, we wouldn't mix with these poor people

People have had enough and this proves it. Don't call ordinary people with genuine concerns far right racists or you'll discover this is what you get.

As we’ve seen with Kier

In the last two years, Germany have sent back 111 unsuccessful asylum seekers to Afghanistan.

There are currently 50,000 asylum applications and 80,000 application appeals on our backlog.

I don’t think for a second Labour want to fill tens and thousands of hotels and HMOs with asylum seekers, but seriously what are they supposed to do? What would you do?

Translation: “I’m being racist because people said I was a racist! It’s their fault!”

They could at least take some responsibility for their own idiotic choices rather than trying to blame everyone else.

Exactly this. They’re certainly not winning on funded policies. And let’s also follow the money/crypto currency and see who this division serves. And while the left, centrists and centre-rights turn on each other about who is most to blame for the rise of Reform, Farage is raking in the millions.

I saw one newly elected Reform councillor made a slip of the tongue in his joy as he’d won for ‘UKIP’ before he corrected himself. Many of these people have been around a very long time, but there is now some serious funding, backing and organisation happening. If only we had a media who would fully scrutinise this and report on it fully. I see Farage has - so far - managed to pretty much brush off the £5million donation when questioned today. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

So are you saying there is nothing this country can do to stop illegals from landing on are beaches?
we just have to accept it and pay for it the rest of their lives

Why are the media treating this like a general election? In the area I live we didn’t even have local elections yesterday. In all mid-term local elections the governing party lose votes and the opposition parties gain them. It’s nothing new - a lot can happen in the 3 years we have before the next GE is due.

Keir.

The good/bad news is the two main parties are going to have to address the issues that have enabled Reform. Note that it's not VAT on school fees. Whether they do it together or seperately is up to them but if it comes to a GE they might find that the tail is wagging the dog. Imagine being Kemi forced to deal with Farage and her former Tory mates like Braverman and Jenrick.

What would you do?

This. Anyone thinking they only cost a pittance needs to look up the facts.

Wales result for Labour is a pretty big deal. Plus so many in local elections. But really it’s about Starmer staying or going.

This post is textbook projection.

No point in responding as you've created a persona for me (sneering liberal fool) and that's that.

Nah. It’s a bloodbath. Especially in Wales!

There is only one thing this country can do and it’s what Labour are doing, hire more caseworkers to tackle the backlog and making deals with other countries to let us send failed applicants to them.

Reform claim in their manifesto they can just leave the ECHR and start putting people in planes straight from the dinghy but international diplomacy doesn’t work like that. It takes time.

I'd actually prefer a pact between Kemi and Starmer.
Kemi to deal with internal issues, Starmer responsible for international policy.

I know this won't happen, but girl can dream

Great viewing, and extremely poor decision-making and scrutiny at a local level.

Extremely well. They've got the strongest economy on the planet by a long way

Our area is no over all control but Reform did well.
We have a couple of knob end neighbours near us and one was blasting out 'Rule Britainnia' on his stereo to celebrate. WTAF?🙄

Is that why Trump's popularity is tanking?