Council Elections

[OneTealShaker]

The first declared seats going to Reform.

Reform +2
Labour -1

Buckle up people.

Have they not?

So far the numbers of immigration halved.
Increased skill workers salary for visa rules.
Ended families being able to come with those working or students.
Have to work for 10 years before can apply for permanent residency.
People have to speak better English here now.
Reduced the time graduates have to find a job
They have made a real effort to get through the huge backlog of asylum claims and are doing so.
Increased the removal of failed asylum seekers and offenders.
Increased staff to deal with asylum claims.
Changes being made to Refugee Family Reunion for successful asylum seekers.
Set up a new force.

I had 3 votes yesterday, and gave them all to the Greens. DP chose LD. We were both unable to bring ourselves to vote Labour as we felt like they needed some punishment for what's been happening nationally.

My council hasn't declared yet, but its been Labour led for 20+ years. I'm expecting Labour to remain the biggest party with a number of Green, LD, Cons and Reform candidates. I would be surprised if the Cons and Reform candidates outnumbered the Labour.

Elsewhere my parents voted (and in their ward won) Green but the overall council is no control with Labour as the biggest party, and Reform and Cons together outnumbering the rest of the parties together. Very confusing, probably very unstable!

It's attitudes like yours that are going to sweep Reform into power in two years. Calling people stupid for how they've voted now will only make them double down at the GE.

Why are you being so aggressive, it’s a forum for opinions, I stated mine and was told I “live under a rock” which is not necessary

Where is you evidence? Worcestershire is higher but other Reform held areas are having less increases than they previously did. It was on TV last night. Averages include the higher Worcestershire CT.

Yes, we were voting for a 'shadow authority' for a new unitary authority who will operate alongside the existing county and borough councils for a year. I know our existing borough councillors of course, but the new unitary ward is huge - I vaguely knew one of the LD candidates so voted for her, and the other LD candidate works in a local school so seemed like a safe bet. I actually know both of the Green candidates and they had very sensible messaging (no reference at all to the national party silliness, just traditional green stuff about clean water and ecological diversity) but ended up going LD as I have in the past.

You didn’t provide any rational reason at all. Your “reason” contradicted data and evidenced facts so is imaginary and not a reason at all but a prejudice.

The fact you openly state you are “not interested in data” (i.e. facts) says it all.

No, I did not vote for Labour. Pathetic. I have made it perfectly clear that I’m not party political. You’re clearly incapable of making a rational argument to support your position so start with these tiresome attempts to try to project viewpoints you dislike onto others rather than putting forward any coherent position to support your own assertions.

The sheer amount of people who feel betrayed and politically homeless means that elections for the foreseeable are just going to be massive protest votes. I have never heard the rhetoric being so grounded in ‘getting rid of the old’ rather than real belief in the new.

Hello Mr Gove.

Many of us are tired of being regaled with “opinions” from people and their expectation that we should treat their assertions as though they have equal merit to that data and facts which their “opinions” contradict.

I’m tired of you. Have a nice Friday!

This is a fallacy.

If someone bases their vote on someone else calling them stupid, then there really is no other word for them.

Not that I believe this is a phenomenon. People vote for what appeals to them - blaming others for your vote is pure defensiveness.

Exactly! This post really summed up what the problem is. It isn’t the immigrants! 😁

You can still do that without being aggressive though.

But migration figures are down hugely from the high of 2023 (halved). Number of asylum hostels down from 400 to 185 with a pledge to close them all by 2027. Returns/deportations/entry refusals at an all time high. Massively tightened up requirements on spoken English and ILR requirements. Number of study visas hugely reduced.

It might not be enough for you, but it's wrong to say that Labour have done nothing.

Labour seem to miss barracks when quoting accommodation figures.

Calling them stupid implies they don't know their own minds. Many Reform voters are highly intelligent professionals, not the knuckle-dragging working class that the Left-wing want to paint them as.

It suits you to think of them like that, and that's why Reform will win the next GE unless attitudes like yours change.

Yes, they are replacing asylum hostels in towns with disused army camps in remote locations. I thought this is what people wanted?

People have a clear example of what we can end up with if we vote like the Americans did. There is no excuse to vote Reform. Not now, not in the General Election. Mainstream politics have failed us, I will not lie about that. But Reform isn’t the answer. I am appalled by the results so far.

It still costs so if you put how money has been saved you need to include it.

And HMOs!

His net wealth is mainly due to him buying a field for his parents donkeys in 1996 (for a few £1000s) and is based on its value IF it had planning permission... all declared.

No one gave him £5m for reasons not yet known, Farage's claim is its for security is BS.
If it were all above board, he'd have declared it as we supposed to have done when he stood as an MP.

We only only know about this £5m because someone investigated his earnings, then we have him buying a house for cash... lying and saying his partner bought it....

Tice living abroad, to avoid tax, is very off, for someone who claims to want to build a better UK.....

all men of the people

In which Reform led council have they “doubled” council tax? Are you getting your information from tiktok?

I didn’t vote Reform, but calling people idiotic for doing so is childish. Why mock reform voters suggesting that they have only voted due to frustration with immigration as it isn’t really a council matter, whilst staying strangely silent on the Greens suggesting the vote is a referendum on Gaza? The Green candidates will be just as inexperienced as the Reform candidates in many cases. Brighton’s Green led council has been a roaring success….🤔

I think a mass increase in Reform seats is exactly what this country needs.

What's more concerning IMO is the votes for Greens - i don't think people really understand what the green party is all about, & their radical ideology on things like prostitution, drugs and national defence, that will for sure make its way into policy as they gain power, no matter what anyone points to in any current 'moderate' manifesto.

You are unreasonable to expect any party who took over the mess left behind by the tories to fix this problem over night. You don't want them accommodated anywhere? You just don't want them here at all.

This is the problem with people in the UK right now. They expect instant gratification/results. The solution to the problems regarding asylum seekers isn't easy, if it were that easy it would've been done years ago. And now with the likes of Trump's war there will be more and more people making this journey, making the problem bigger and continue.

But yeah, it's all Labours fault eh?