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AIBU to hope the greens do very well today?

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ForGreenHiker · 07/05/2026 15:34

That’s it really. go Zack! 💚

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TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:51

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:31

So you don't agree with all the research that shows rehabilitation is more effective than punitive action?

Is that the case in Scotland where drug consumption rooms have been in use for a while?

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:51

Theonebutnotonly · 07/05/2026 21:49

But I’ve never been a con-woman.

So you’re telling me he honestly thought hypnotherapy could increase a woman's breast size? That’s up there with David Lammy believing men can grow a cervix.

I don't know, i imagine he wasn't taking it very seriously, they asked if he'd give it a try and he agreed, and he said some other hypnotherapists had said it's possible. I really don't see what's so wrong with that?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 21:52

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:31

So you don't agree with all the research that shows rehabilitation is more effective than punitive action?

Rehabilitation may well be more effective than punitive action but the proposal is to make all drugs legal including heroin, crack and date rape drugs.

In what scenario do you think the state should be making those drugs available for people to start taking?

NoisyHiker · 07/05/2026 21:52

dairydebris · 07/05/2026 15:42

What is it about the Greens or their policies that you like OP?

There are so many good ones to pick from.

Jew hating, magical thoughts that can grow your breasts, mindless extremism.

Oh, and once, years ago, they quite liked plants and trees and stuff.

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:53

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:51

Is that the case in Scotland where drug consumption rooms have been in use for a while?

I don't know, is it? Can you link some research?

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 21:54

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 21:46

Leaked documents from the Green Party apparently.

How many do you think it might be?

You specifically named those policies, I am intrigued as to why.

I don’t know how many migrants we’ll have per year, but it won’t be 5 million per year! The Migration Observatory said last December that the Office for National Statistics assumed that net migration would fall to an average long-term level of 340,000 by 2028.

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:54

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 21:52

Rehabilitation may well be more effective than punitive action but the proposal is to make all drugs legal including heroin, crack and date rape drugs.

In what scenario do you think the state should be making those drugs available for people to start taking?

They wouldn't be making them available for people to START taking, they'd be regulated substances for rehabilitation and therapeutic purposes

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:56

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 21:50

Could you link to them please? That’s the first I’ve heard of those documents.

I like the Grees’ pro-immigration and pro-refugee policies because I think we - like other peaceful countries- have a moral duty to help refugees and our economy also depends on immigration (and I think a diverse society with immigrants is also a healthy one).

It is misguided to continue immigration for certain jobs when the unemployment rate is rising. We have newly qualified midwives and paramedics who cannot get jobs in the NHS because we are prioritising bringing in medical staff from overseas. That is crazy.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:58

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:53

I don't know, is it? Can you link some research?

Well no, I’m asking you, who claimed that all the research shows rehabilitation is more effective. Presumably you have some links to this research you’re referencing?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/05/2026 21:58

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 21:33

No, of course not, but you’re being deliberately misleading. Where did your figure of ‘5 million immigrants per year indefinitely’ come from?

Also, I was saying why I liked some of the Greens’ policies, Obviously, you don’t like that policy. That’s okay.

How can you claim they are being deliberately misleading when it is quite possible the figure could be 5 million.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:03

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 21:48

You know what's going to create an awful lot more refugees? The climate crisis. And the war in Iran.

That doesn’t answer my question though. How many can we take?

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 22:05

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:58

Well no, I’m asking you, who claimed that all the research shows rehabilitation is more effective. Presumably you have some links to this research you’re referencing?

From a quick search, looks like it's a little early for results on the specific Glasgow venue but this study is underway:

https://www.stir.ac.uk/research/hub/contract/1954762

This consultation discusses the successes these rooms have had in other countries which is why the Glasgow pilot was approved, eg

'Evidence shows that these facilities reduce the level of harm associated with drug consumption by limiting the acute risk of blood borne virus transmission through equipment sharing, preventing overdoses, and encouraging drug users to engage with services'

https://www.rcgp.org.uk/getmedia/eb72accb-db13-476a-a8be-5c7e608bcc79/Scottish-Affairs-Committee-Glasgow-Safer-Drug-Consumption-Facility.pdf

Research project | Evaluating the impact of the UK’s first saNctioned sAfer drug Consumption faciliTy (ENACT): A mixed-methods natural experiment study | University of Stirling

01/04/2025–30/09/2029. Funded by National Institute for Health Research. Collaboration with Glasgow Caledonian University, NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde, Scottish Drugs Forum and University of Glasgow. Total award value: £16,123.00

https://www.stir.ac.uk/research/hub/contract/1954762

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 22:06

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:03

That doesn’t answer my question though. How many can we take?

It's a disingenuous question

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 22:10

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 21:56

It is misguided to continue immigration for certain jobs when the unemployment rate is rising. We have newly qualified midwives and paramedics who cannot get jobs in the NHS because we are prioritising bringing in medical staff from overseas. That is crazy.

One of the reasons recently/newly qualified medical staff find it hard to get NHS roles is because of the shortage of roles for newly qualified staff. I don’t agree with that, but it’s wrong to say they can’t get jobs because of migrant workers being brought in. Migrant workers are being brought in partly because of that role shortage. Something certainly needs to be done about that, but the migrant workers are solving the issues caused by it. If migrant workers stopped coming, the NHS backlogs would be even worse than now.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 22:10

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:03

That doesn’t answer my question though. How many can we take?

I don’t know. How many do you think we can take?

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 22:12

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/05/2026 21:58

How can you claim they are being deliberately misleading when it is quite possible the figure could be 5 million.

It won’t be, because of this:

The Migration Observatory said last December that the Office for National Statistics assumed that net migration would fall to an average long-term level of 340,000 by 2028.

dontmalbeconme · 07/05/2026 22:12

So I had a real conundrum today. Our local Green Councillors are absolutely fabulous, have been around a while and have done great stuff for our area. (Unlike the majority party Cons. Cllrs, who have been utterly awful, disinterested and actually criminal in one case). Would I vote in a GE for Greens, nope. Too much crazy, too much I can't support in their policies. Did I vote locally for Greens? Yep. The running Green Cllrs have done such great things for our community locally. I'm uncomfortable about it sending the message I support Green policies generally, though.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:13

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 21:50

Could you link to them please? That’s the first I’ve heard of those documents.

I like the Grees’ pro-immigration and pro-refugee policies because I think we - like other peaceful countries- have a moral duty to help refugees and our economy also depends on immigration (and I think a diverse society with immigrants is also a healthy one).

They are leaked documents- I don’t have a link but I don’t think the figure has been denied by the GP.

The question is, how many do you think we should take?

Another question is, why is it assumed that a ‘diverse’ society automatically a healthy one?

Lebanon has become extremely ‘diverse’ with large amounts of immigration in the last 40 or so years and that hasn’t worked at all well. A previously peaceful and prosperous society is now violent and ripping itself apart.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 07/05/2026 22:15

dontmalbeconme · 07/05/2026 22:12

So I had a real conundrum today. Our local Green Councillors are absolutely fabulous, have been around a while and have done great stuff for our area. (Unlike the majority party Cons. Cllrs, who have been utterly awful, disinterested and actually criminal in one case). Would I vote in a GE for Greens, nope. Too much crazy, too much I can't support in their policies. Did I vote locally for Greens? Yep. The running Green Cllrs have done such great things for our community locally. I'm uncomfortable about it sending the message I support Green policies generally, though.

Well no you would be mad not to vote for the party who has done so much for your immediate area in this local election.

TheKittenswithMittens · 07/05/2026 22:15

They plan to remove the state pension.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 07/05/2026 22:15
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I'm voting Green.

But i DONT support Zac Polanski 🙄🙄

The man is a mess, who 'isnt ready to be PM'

Whatever side of the spectrum you fall on, a man backtracking like he has, and lying about being a Red Cross ambassador is embarrassing and weak

I am not a Keir supporter but the man can go toe to toe with Trump and can lead. Zac just gives weak man who claims his partner does all the housework because theyre better at it 🤢🤢🤢

Get Caroline Lucas back in charge FGS

glitterpaperchain · 07/05/2026 22:15

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:13

They are leaked documents- I don’t have a link but I don’t think the figure has been denied by the GP.

The question is, how many do you think we should take?

Another question is, why is it assumed that a ‘diverse’ society automatically a healthy one?

Lebanon has become extremely ‘diverse’ with large amounts of immigration in the last 40 or so years and that hasn’t worked at all well. A previously peaceful and prosperous society is now violent and ripping itself apart.

I thought the question was how many can we take? Is it can or should?

Kindnesscostsnothingtryit · 07/05/2026 22:19

ForGreenHiker · 07/05/2026 20:01

Jesus. I swear some people in Mumsnet are so blinkered about trans issues that they have lost the ability for critical thinking. “He said woman can have a penis therefore he hates women!”

As a previous poster said, I believe Zack to be an ardent feminist and I trust him to stick up for women’s rights more than any other party.

This is the same guy who reckons he can crease the size of women's breaststroke through hypnosis? Right feminist.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 07/05/2026 22:23

That would be with current immigration policy though - not open borders.

Why don’t you think it could be 5 million per year? We give free healthcare, housing and benefits - that’s a pretty attractive offer.

Also net migration is not the same as immigration.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 07/05/2026 22:24

TheKittenswithMittens · 07/05/2026 22:15

They plan to remove the state pension.

No lol - the Greens have publicly said they’ll look at removing the state pension triple lock with a double lock (increasing the pension in line with either average earnings growth or inflation, rather than also including the CPI in that too).

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