To think Starmer will be gone by the end of Friday? Or will it be Monday evening?

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Whoever you are voting for today, it's probably not Labour - they might loose 2,000 seats.

How long exactly will it be before he resigns?

Oh, Blossom…

But where are these sensible people waiting in the wings? I can't think of any of the opposition parties that fit that description.
The media seem hellbent on propelling Farage to power, which terrifies me.

The evidence from polling is that Labour is losing more votes to Reform than to the Greens. Research late last year suggested that 11% of those who supported Labour in the last general election would now vote for Reform, 9% would vote LibDem, 6% would vote Green and 3% would vote Tory. Yes, the Tories are losing more votes to Reform than Labour, but they are also a threat to Labour.

I doubt that anyone would think of Tameside, Wigan or Salford as Tory strongholds.

It must be worrying Labour that after the NE of England turned away from it, the NW is doing so now.

Maybe but that’s not what the headlines will be about. You & me and plenty of us could have good conversations about whether Rayner would be any good as pm but that would be drowned out.

Similar to the “I hate Keir Starmer” thing that got going the second Labour won the election. But worse for Rayner because she’s a woman.

Most of the voting population of this country barely think about politics from month to month and don’t engage with policies or candidates except on an entirely superficial basis 99.9% of the time.

Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over again?

None of this is unexpected, however much you try and whip it up into something it is not.

Interesting - as I agree.

Not sure why I feel this so strongly with them.

I do think that's an increasing danger from several parties- imported often from US - talking down to voters assuming they're all stupid and ignorant and just don't understand - dismissing voters actual concerns and genuine differences of opinion.

I'm surprised so many people think Reform have any answers or greens TBH - but the well someone else may be better I do get or even the FFS start listening to voters shot across the bows protest votes.

Oh, I very much expected this result.

You do know things can always get worse... as most of my US friends have realised.

Greens are taking votes from Labour, but that's allowing Reform to win seats. John Curtice screenshot on this

It's Trump's second term - they selected him twice - it's not like they didn't know his history.

That's not an oopms we gave someone else a try and it's made it worse - Trump and his lot are an active choice by the poltcial system there and the us electorate.

It's an odd thing about their culture - complete failure to accept the consquences of their own actions - from everything to their government overthrowing democracies to their own bloody history - they are always blameless always the good guys. They voted for the face eating leopard party and now want to act surpised it's eating their faces.

I'm not keen on a Reform government at all but holding another countries wisespread failures as a boggy man isn't helpful. Labour wants voters to vote for them they need to engage with voters and sell their ideas to voters.

No, you expected Labour to lose 75%+ of their seats. That isn't going to happen.

Kate Ferguson, political editor at the Sun, is reporting that, after a mammoth ring round, the vibe is that talk of a cabinet revolt forcing Starmer out is dead. It is, of course, not guaranteed that she is correct.

Just ignore it typical Labour supporters pissed the public really do dislike Labour as much as was thought.

They must be either incredibly stupid or incredibly cowardly.

Starmer is the single biggest cause of Labour’s doom, by a long, long way. If Starmer stays Labour has had it.

Yep

Doesn't surprise me - they're going to hang on and hope somehow things get better.

They've just admitted they've lost Wales - with count ongoing - again the expected result.

Cowardly, stupid? Clearly!

What does it say about this government, if the Prime Minister can lose authority this badly, yet remain in place because there is no plausible alternative?

Who would be your alternative?

I'm sorry but voting for Reform would be very similar to re-voting for leave when we know that hasn't worked out. My point is that Americans aren't unique. We aren't better. Just different cultural flavours.

Cooper. Northern, female, experienced, decent public recognition.

Sir Keir Starmer must agree to an orderly exit and set out a timetable for his departure, Labour MPs have said.

The Prime Minister said he was “not going to walk away and plunge the country into chaos” following a disastrous set of local election results.

His words appear to rule out a resignation and immediate departure from Downing Street, but not necessarily a managed exit.

Ed Miliband, the Energy Secretary, reportedly held a private phone call with Sir Keir over the last fortnight to establish a timeline for his departure from No 10. Mr Miliband’s team did not explicitly deny the report in The Times.

Asked whether he should resign immediately or plan an orderly departure, Graham Stringer, the Labour MP, told The Telegraph: “I think it would be much better for him to set out a timetable.

“I think we might be in danger of getting somebody who’s no better. Without a policy debate to clarify where people are going, we could just have a ridiculous beauty contest.”

Ian Lavery, a former Labour chairman, warned that Sir Keir could “kill the Labour Party” if he remained its leader, telling BBC Radio 4 that “an organised withdrawal” would be the best course of action.

John McDonnell, a former shadow chancellor, and Jonathan Brash, the MP for Hartlepool, also called for a “timetable” for Sir Keir’s exit.

Labour is on course to receive its worst set of local election results in the party’s history, having already lost control of nine councils on Friday morning.

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Yeah I get it, if she ran and got it I wouldn’t be quote - someone said this on thread yesterday, it has stayed with me - “stabbing myself in the face”.

Me, Miliband, public recognition, intellect, not caught up in the activist politics that is our government and serious.

Maybe either deserves a second chance.

Thank you.

Exit polls are giving Labour 10% of the vote in the Sened. Let's see what the final count is in the country....

Would be nice if you could try to write the name of the Welsh parliament correctly.

Plaid Cymru doing very well there.