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It wasn't planned, he didn't mean it. Seriously, what did he think would happen if he hit a police woman with a sledgehammer!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 06/05/2026 23:01

Remember the man that hit a policewoman with a sledgehammer breaking her spine?

"Corner was also found guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm after striking Sgt Kate Evans twice with a sledgehammer, fracturing her spine. He was cleared of the more serious offence of causing grievous bodily harm with intent."

"Corner had told the court he "would never want to seriously hurt anyone" and he denied using violence against people during the raid was planned."

It wasn't planned, he didn't mean it.

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Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:10

PoppinjayPolly · 07/05/2026 22:47

Has anyone checked on the health of the poor lamb with the sledgehammer though? He may have got an injury to add to his righteous indignation and righteous violent assault!
N.B any hurty feelz or muscle pain for smashing someone’s spine will of course be so much much worse remember… because as @Anyahyacinth is keen to point out, it’s only a little fracture of the spinal cord…

Again you've stated "spinal cord"

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:15

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 22:34

The poster didn't say she didn't care about people killed during the conflict in Palestine though. You ASSUME that she doesn't care. Its quite possible she cares about both. This thread is about a violent man who thought it was ok to twice hit a woman with a sledgehammer and has been found guilty of GBH without intent.

What on earth are you on about 'darker forces'.

"It's not simple ...no matter how much literal darker forces want to use these events. If you care about 1 woman why not the thousands of others blown apart?"

Do you always make assumptions about others.

No answer then @Anyahyacinth ?

Any concern at all for the policewoman or all concern just for the gentle lamb (AKA cowardly scrote, found guilty of GBH without intent). Just whataboutery, minimising and deflection?

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Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:17

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:10

Poor lamb, must be traumatised after hitting a woman and being questioned why.

"The court heard that when police arrived at the factory, 23-year-old Corner used his seven-pound sledgehammer to strike Sgt Evans twice on the back, leaving her with a fractured spine and fearing that she had been paralysed."

"Corner, a former linguistics and philosophy student at Oxford University, told his trial it “seemed reasonable to do something” after he heard one of his fellow activists screaming and believed they were being hurt by security guards."

His defence lawyer says hes a 'gentle' man. ( Deanna Heer KC, for the prosecution, told the court that Corner hit Evans in the back with a 7lb (3.2kg) sledgehammer – while she was on all fours facing away from him, attempting to arrest Rogers – fracturing the officer’s spine.)

"In his closing speech at Woolwich Crown Court, Tom Wainwright, defending, also described Corner as "an academic, an Oxford graduate, a mathematician, a linguist and a philosopher".

He said that Corner was "clearly very intelligent, but also noticeably someone that excels in branches of subjects concerned with the theoretical, not the practical, translating languages, not using them in public to communicate"."

So clever but thick. Gentle but uses violence. Perhaps easily manipulated then?

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/filton6-retrial/

I read 5 of the 6 of the defendants had barristers making closing speeches

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:19

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:18

In his closing speech at Woolwich Crown Court, Tom Wainwright, defending, also described Corner as "an academic, an Oxford graduate, a mathematician, a linguist and a philosopher

Direct from the story linked above

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AelitaQueenofMars · 07/05/2026 23:20

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 20:37

Read the quote history..you know thats not what I was responding too

Then maybe read verifiable sources about what happened. 1st jury failed to convict, 2nd trial - defence was restricted. Kings Counsel being charged with contempt of court for raising concerns about restricted defence...an unheard of event. Judge is a former security services panel participant abd was CHANGED to him. Defendant convicted of a "without intent" offence. Key CCTV evidence is "missing"

What is produced in this facility is used for war crimes and advertised as "battle tested " against a caged civilian population.

It's dystopian, but yes one disputed injury that was shown to the jury via the MRI images by the defence...not a spine completely fractured but a fracture in a bone in the back...sledgehammers had been used against the saboteurs. 2 completely cleared...why?

It's not simple ...no matter how much literal darker forces want to use these events. If you care about 1 woman why not the thousands of others blown apart?

Ah, verifiable sources, eh? Here you go!

For those curious about the KC being charged with contempt of court, here is the background to that story.

Barrister in Palestine Action trial faces contempt of court case

Rajiv Menon KC is accused of misleading the jury during his closing speech in the first trial of six activists who broke into an Elbit Systems factory

https://www.thetimes.com/article/96d892aa-fc7a-45ba-bb63-2533d90618e5?shareToken=9c253764d84c53800be07a0eef8af221

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:21

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:18

I have read it

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:22

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:17

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/filton6-retrial/

I read 5 of the 6 of the defendants had barristers making closing speeches

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You have completely changed your comment from NONE to 5 out of 6" . He clearly had a defence lawyer making a closing speech so comment was incorrect.

"Anyahyacinth
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www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/filton6-retrial/

I read 5 of the 6 of the defendants had barristers making closing speeches

Anyahyacinth
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www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/filton6-retrial/

I read none of the defendants had barristers making closing speeches"

Edits can be read you know!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:23

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:21

I have read it

Didn't understand it though 😕 he had a lawyer make a closing speech about him.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:26

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:15

No answer then @Anyahyacinth ?

Any concern at all for the policewoman or all concern just for the gentle lamb (AKA cowardly scrote, found guilty of GBH without intent). Just whataboutery, minimising and deflection?

@Anyahyacinth
Any concerns at all for the policewoman? Anything?

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AelitaQueenofMars · 07/05/2026 23:27

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 22:38

Caring about a genocide isnt a bandwagon.

When the Iranian's were threatened with the end of their civilisation the outrage was front and centre in MSM and in pro Palestinians groups, as is Congo, Lebanon and Syria

But no ‘outrage front and centre’ when the Iranian theocracy murdered tens of thousands of Iranian citizens over the course of a week or two…

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:37

HeyHoHenryHippy · 07/05/2026 23:26

@Anyahyacinth
Any concerns at all for the policewoman? Anything?

From Leona, one of the defendants closing statements:

"The prosecution’s whole case against us has been quite disingenuous and contradictory. The prosecutor told you yesterday that their case has just been all about damage, and it doesn’t matter who we are or why we did what we did. But many parts of the evidence that they presented weren’t about damage at all. They were about trying to discredit us as people. We spent about a day going through the sequence of events, though it felt like much longer to all of us, but how much of it was actually relevant to the issue of damage? Why did you need to know that I may have been hungover after a party? Did the homeopathy messages from my mum help you work out whether we damaged anything? And of course the video of Fatema Zainab and Lottie laughing, when they had no idea of what had just happened to Sergeant Evans. Was that there to help you work out whether we damaged anything? Obviously not. It was there to convince you that we’re bad people.

While these moments have been quietly drip-fed through the case, on the surface the prosecutor accepts that we’re people of good character. The most disingenuous part of the prosecution case has been the allegations of me intimidating security guards and resisting arrest. I am not charged with threatening anyone or resisting arrest. So if the prosecution were really so sure of their case, then they would say it, and prosecute me.

The first thing that you might have noticed about the prosecution case is that they didn’t call a single security guard to give evidence. The prosecutor asked you to see things from Volante’s perspective [described in evidence as the most violent of the Elbit security guards], and you could have. She chose not to call him or any security guard to actually give evidence, because they know that they were the ones intimidating us. And if that wasn’t true, they would have called them to the stand.And I think that brings me to the CCTV. Everything that we’ve heard about the CCTV system came second-hand from PC Sarah Grant. Once again, the prosecution did not want to put an Elbit Systems employee in front of you to answer for themselves. They know that the explanation of why there is missing footage doesn’t make sense. The low frame rate cannot explain the missing footage. You’ve seen it. We spent way longer than a minute in that alcove. No matter how low the frame rate was, it’s impossible that nobody was pictured on that camera, where Volante was being incredibly violent. Coincidentally, we don’t have any body-worn footage from the alcove either. We also don’t have CCTV of the area where Luke [another Elbit guard] had Lottie screaming on the floor, or body-worn. Or when Mr. Volante hit Jordan in the neck with a sledgehammer – you only saw that because it’s captured on police body-worn.

PC Phoebe Webber accepted that there were CCTV cameras that covered all of these areas, and we know that security all had body-worn cameras. Sarah Grant accepted that someone would have to set the frame rates, but of course, Witness Alpha [described as a senior Elbit employee whose identity has been withheld from defence lawyers] , who hasn’t been here at all, couldn’t remember the password to access the settings. Could anyone really believe that a multi-million pound weapons and technology company that specializes in surveillance drones didn’t have a CCTV system that worked?"

The case is so much bigger than they way you wish to present it...so much so their defence barristers are being prosecuted into silence...a KC no less

The jury would not convict first try ..so they shuffled the deck

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:54

As mentioned at the top, Sam Corner retained his legal representative, Tom Wainwright [Garden Court Chambers], and this was Mr Wainwright’s closing speech on his behalf:

"There is no dispute, as Ms Heer said in Closing, that on 6th August 2024 PS Evans was doing her job as a public servant. There is no dispute that she did not deserve to be injured. Of course you will feel sympathy for her, I’m sure everyone in this courtroom does"

"Every piece of evidence you have heard, every step along the path that lead him to be on that factory floor is consistent with that explanation. None of it is consistent with the prosecution explanation, such as it is, which appears to be that Sam Corner – a lifelong pacifist who had never committed an offence in his life – got frustrated and made a deliberate decision to injure a police officer for no reason."
"You have agreed facts about the effects of PAVA spray. It’s a highly effective incapacitant. It causes temporary blindness, eyes to close and tears to run. It causes severe pain and nausea. I don’t make any criticism of PC Buxton for deploying his PAVA spray, didn’t explore with him the reasons for doing so or his perception of whether it was necessary, as it’s not about that, its simply the fact that it happened which is so important in understanding what took place afterwards. There can be no doubt that this was the effect it was having on Sam Corner from hereon in. You can see it on the footage, groaning, rubbing his eyes. He told you about the all-consuming pain. Trying to force his eyes open. And so when you view events through his eyes from now on, that vision is blurred, he is confused, disorientated.

An autistic young man, in an unfamiliar place and an unfamiliar scenario. Alarms going off. Smoke in the air. PAVA in his eyes. You may remember the evidence that was read from PC Neale who arrested Charlotte Head some time later. They said that when they started to caution her they had to stop because even then due to the alarm, the smoke and the residue of the PAVA on Ms Head, they became so disorientated that they couldn’t continue. So imagine what it was like twenty minutes earlier.

And in those circumstances, having just seen Mr Volante strike Jordan Devlin, Sam Corner turns away, and when he turns back, through blurred eyes, he sees a similar looking figure in black grappling with Jordan Devlin. Did he think it was still Mr Volante? Possibly."

None of security guards who hit with hammer and sledgehammers were called to give evidence. They wore the same kit as the police (as demonstrated in court) and CCTV has gone "missing"

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/05/2026 00:22

Once you say that the law doesn’t matter in this case, you cannot say the law matters at all.

That isn’t really to anyone’s advantage, except the bloke with the sledgehammer who doesn’t mind ( maybe wants) to use it on another person.

If you think that there should be no law against breaking into property, damaging it, and attacking anyone who tries to stop you, campaign to change or abolish those laws, for all property, for all violence incurred, I don’t think you will get much support ( although I could be wrong as several countries demonstrate).

AelitaQueenofMars · 08/05/2026 00:27

So in short Anyahyacinth you have no concerns whatsoever for the policewoman hit with the sledgehammer. Received loud and clear, despite your wall of words attempting to deflect from the simple question.

Extrachoc · 08/05/2026 00:48

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 22:38

Caring about a genocide isnt a bandwagon.

When the Iranian's were threatened with the end of their civilisation the outrage was front and centre in MSM and in pro Palestinians groups, as is Congo, Lebanon and Syria

“Threatened with the end of their civilisation”? By that you’re referring to the many thousands of Iranians who were slaughtered by the Islamic regime, right? Including nurses and doctors who helped the injured? Teenagers killed for protesting their oppression by the IRGC?

Strange, because I recall there was very little media coverage of this for weeks, so little that people were calling out msm for their clear bias.

Recollections may vary, I suppose. Or, like you said, selective outrage?

Extrachoc · 08/05/2026 00:51

And the people who are against the police, calling out to defund the police etc…I recall a politician in America who was very vocal about defunding the police. And yet, when she was robbed, who do you think she called? Not fucking Ghostbusters!

balabusta · 08/05/2026 02:34

Extrachoc · 08/05/2026 00:48

“Threatened with the end of their civilisation”? By that you’re referring to the many thousands of Iranians who were slaughtered by the Islamic regime, right? Including nurses and doctors who helped the injured? Teenagers killed for protesting their oppression by the IRGC?

Strange, because I recall there was very little media coverage of this for weeks, so little that people were calling out msm for their clear bias.

Recollections may vary, I suppose. Or, like you said, selective outrage?

Hmmm, I've seen pro Palestinian groups attack Iranians.
I dont think you know how much Iranians HATE the pro Palestine cause. They may have some sympathy for Palestinians but they hate that their government has been involved in causing all this chaos.

Oh and it very much is a bandwagon. There are no marches to Free Sudan, no anger at the UAE for funding the genocide, no one is attacking Arabs in the UK for Arabs committing genocide against Africans in Sudan.

Total.and utter hypocrisy. Adding "and Sudan" to Free Palesinte is an afterthought

Extrachoc · 08/05/2026 04:45

I know, it really beggars belief how little these ‘human rights’ activists, who apparently care so much about the well being of innocents, have acknowledged the treatment of Iranians over the years. Silence from people like Greta Thunberg and others of her ilk. It’s baffling. And pathetic.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 08/05/2026 05:58

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:37

From Leona, one of the defendants closing statements:

"The prosecution’s whole case against us has been quite disingenuous and contradictory. The prosecutor told you yesterday that their case has just been all about damage, and it doesn’t matter who we are or why we did what we did. But many parts of the evidence that they presented weren’t about damage at all. They were about trying to discredit us as people. We spent about a day going through the sequence of events, though it felt like much longer to all of us, but how much of it was actually relevant to the issue of damage? Why did you need to know that I may have been hungover after a party? Did the homeopathy messages from my mum help you work out whether we damaged anything? And of course the video of Fatema Zainab and Lottie laughing, when they had no idea of what had just happened to Sergeant Evans. Was that there to help you work out whether we damaged anything? Obviously not. It was there to convince you that we’re bad people.

While these moments have been quietly drip-fed through the case, on the surface the prosecutor accepts that we’re people of good character. The most disingenuous part of the prosecution case has been the allegations of me intimidating security guards and resisting arrest. I am not charged with threatening anyone or resisting arrest. So if the prosecution were really so sure of their case, then they would say it, and prosecute me.

The first thing that you might have noticed about the prosecution case is that they didn’t call a single security guard to give evidence. The prosecutor asked you to see things from Volante’s perspective [described in evidence as the most violent of the Elbit security guards], and you could have. She chose not to call him or any security guard to actually give evidence, because they know that they were the ones intimidating us. And if that wasn’t true, they would have called them to the stand.And I think that brings me to the CCTV. Everything that we’ve heard about the CCTV system came second-hand from PC Sarah Grant. Once again, the prosecution did not want to put an Elbit Systems employee in front of you to answer for themselves. They know that the explanation of why there is missing footage doesn’t make sense. The low frame rate cannot explain the missing footage. You’ve seen it. We spent way longer than a minute in that alcove. No matter how low the frame rate was, it’s impossible that nobody was pictured on that camera, where Volante was being incredibly violent. Coincidentally, we don’t have any body-worn footage from the alcove either. We also don’t have CCTV of the area where Luke [another Elbit guard] had Lottie screaming on the floor, or body-worn. Or when Mr. Volante hit Jordan in the neck with a sledgehammer – you only saw that because it’s captured on police body-worn.

PC Phoebe Webber accepted that there were CCTV cameras that covered all of these areas, and we know that security all had body-worn cameras. Sarah Grant accepted that someone would have to set the frame rates, but of course, Witness Alpha [described as a senior Elbit employee whose identity has been withheld from defence lawyers] , who hasn’t been here at all, couldn’t remember the password to access the settings. Could anyone really believe that a multi-million pound weapons and technology company that specializes in surveillance drones didn’t have a CCTV system that worked?"

The case is so much bigger than they way you wish to present it...so much so their defence barristers are being prosecuted into silence...a KC no less

The jury would not convict first try ..so they shuffled the deck

I'll take that as a no then. No concerns for policewoman at all. Nothing from YOU at all, just repeating the mantra of your heroes.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 08/05/2026 06:01

AelitaQueenofMars · 08/05/2026 00:27

So in short Anyahyacinth you have no concerns whatsoever for the policewoman hit with the sledgehammer. Received loud and clear, despite your wall of words attempting to deflect from the simple question.

Indeed. No concerns at all. Just waffling statements about her heroes.

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loislovesstewie · 08/05/2026 06:40

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:54

As mentioned at the top, Sam Corner retained his legal representative, Tom Wainwright [Garden Court Chambers], and this was Mr Wainwright’s closing speech on his behalf:

"There is no dispute, as Ms Heer said in Closing, that on 6th August 2024 PS Evans was doing her job as a public servant. There is no dispute that she did not deserve to be injured. Of course you will feel sympathy for her, I’m sure everyone in this courtroom does"

"Every piece of evidence you have heard, every step along the path that lead him to be on that factory floor is consistent with that explanation. None of it is consistent with the prosecution explanation, such as it is, which appears to be that Sam Corner – a lifelong pacifist who had never committed an offence in his life – got frustrated and made a deliberate decision to injure a police officer for no reason."
"You have agreed facts about the effects of PAVA spray. It’s a highly effective incapacitant. It causes temporary blindness, eyes to close and tears to run. It causes severe pain and nausea. I don’t make any criticism of PC Buxton for deploying his PAVA spray, didn’t explore with him the reasons for doing so or his perception of whether it was necessary, as it’s not about that, its simply the fact that it happened which is so important in understanding what took place afterwards. There can be no doubt that this was the effect it was having on Sam Corner from hereon in. You can see it on the footage, groaning, rubbing his eyes. He told you about the all-consuming pain. Trying to force his eyes open. And so when you view events through his eyes from now on, that vision is blurred, he is confused, disorientated.

An autistic young man, in an unfamiliar place and an unfamiliar scenario. Alarms going off. Smoke in the air. PAVA in his eyes. You may remember the evidence that was read from PC Neale who arrested Charlotte Head some time later. They said that when they started to caution her they had to stop because even then due to the alarm, the smoke and the residue of the PAVA on Ms Head, they became so disorientated that they couldn’t continue. So imagine what it was like twenty minutes earlier.

And in those circumstances, having just seen Mr Volante strike Jordan Devlin, Sam Corner turns away, and when he turns back, through blurred eyes, he sees a similar looking figure in black grappling with Jordan Devlin. Did he think it was still Mr Volante? Possibly."

None of security guards who hit with hammer and sledgehammers were called to give evidence. They wore the same kit as the police (as demonstrated in court) and CCTV has gone "missing"

What a load of waffle! None of that detracts from the fact that none of the convicted had any business being there. They broke into a facility. As far as I know that's still a crime. They clearly weren't there for a guided tour of a chocolate factory.
I'm sick and tired of these activists thinking they can do anything, plead nuorodivergence and it will get them off the hook. If they had any courage of their convictions, they would accept responsibility, plead guilty and be the martyrs they want to be.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 08/05/2026 06:48

Anyahyacinth · 07/05/2026 23:54

As mentioned at the top, Sam Corner retained his legal representative, Tom Wainwright [Garden Court Chambers], and this was Mr Wainwright’s closing speech on his behalf:

"There is no dispute, as Ms Heer said in Closing, that on 6th August 2024 PS Evans was doing her job as a public servant. There is no dispute that she did not deserve to be injured. Of course you will feel sympathy for her, I’m sure everyone in this courtroom does"

"Every piece of evidence you have heard, every step along the path that lead him to be on that factory floor is consistent with that explanation. None of it is consistent with the prosecution explanation, such as it is, which appears to be that Sam Corner – a lifelong pacifist who had never committed an offence in his life – got frustrated and made a deliberate decision to injure a police officer for no reason."
"You have agreed facts about the effects of PAVA spray. It’s a highly effective incapacitant. It causes temporary blindness, eyes to close and tears to run. It causes severe pain and nausea. I don’t make any criticism of PC Buxton for deploying his PAVA spray, didn’t explore with him the reasons for doing so or his perception of whether it was necessary, as it’s not about that, its simply the fact that it happened which is so important in understanding what took place afterwards. There can be no doubt that this was the effect it was having on Sam Corner from hereon in. You can see it on the footage, groaning, rubbing his eyes. He told you about the all-consuming pain. Trying to force his eyes open. And so when you view events through his eyes from now on, that vision is blurred, he is confused, disorientated.

An autistic young man, in an unfamiliar place and an unfamiliar scenario. Alarms going off. Smoke in the air. PAVA in his eyes. You may remember the evidence that was read from PC Neale who arrested Charlotte Head some time later. They said that when they started to caution her they had to stop because even then due to the alarm, the smoke and the residue of the PAVA on Ms Head, they became so disorientated that they couldn’t continue. So imagine what it was like twenty minutes earlier.

And in those circumstances, having just seen Mr Volante strike Jordan Devlin, Sam Corner turns away, and when he turns back, through blurred eyes, he sees a similar looking figure in black grappling with Jordan Devlin. Did he think it was still Mr Volante? Possibly."

None of security guards who hit with hammer and sledgehammers were called to give evidence. They wore the same kit as the police (as demonstrated in court) and CCTV has gone "missing"

Poor little lamb, were those alarms triggered on breaking in too loud for his ears, so he just had to hit out due to being scared and disorientated. Maybe not break into places armed with sledgehammer ready to cause damage. Perhaps stay at home like law abiding people.

Hopefully the law will punish the scrote for his guilty verdict of GBH without intent, so he might reconsider breaking and entry, damage and attacking another person the next time he fancies a night out with his friends. Maybe find something useful to do instead.

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noblegiraffe · 08/05/2026 10:27

“When he bludgeoned the police officer on the floor with a sledgehammer, he thought he was bludgeoning a security guard” Oh well THAT’S OK THEN

These people, who were wielding sledgehammers and smashing up equipment and causing a million pounds worth of damage seem to be offended that anyone try to stop them from doing it. It was the job of both the security guards and the police to stop them.

But of course our moral heroes, fuelled by self-righteousness breaking into private property and smashing shit up are the goodies of this tale and not the people doing the (probably low-paid) jobs that pay them money to put food on their tables.

How fucking dare they put those security guards and police officers in that position and then cry about how they treated them poorly.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 08/05/2026 11:50

noblegiraffe · 08/05/2026 10:27

“When he bludgeoned the police officer on the floor with a sledgehammer, he thought he was bludgeoning a security guard” Oh well THAT’S OK THEN

These people, who were wielding sledgehammers and smashing up equipment and causing a million pounds worth of damage seem to be offended that anyone try to stop them from doing it. It was the job of both the security guards and the police to stop them.

But of course our moral heroes, fuelled by self-righteousness breaking into private property and smashing shit up are the goodies of this tale and not the people doing the (probably low-paid) jobs that pay them money to put food on their tables.

How fucking dare they put those security guards and police officers in that position and then cry about how they treated them poorly.

Naturally to these self righteous, paragons of morality, security guards and police officers don't matter. Nothing can get in the way of virtue signalling for 'gaza'. They are so deluded that they actually think they are helping their 'cause'. Plonkers need to get a job and contribute to the society that they live in, or is that too much like hard work and they'd rather just smash things up and hurt people.

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