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To think Kemi Badenoch is starting to talk an increasing amount of sense

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Sonato · 05/05/2026 12:26

Never voted conservative a day in my life.

Seriously comsidering it after recent performances

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GingerRhubarb · 05/05/2026 16:45

Pacificsunshine · 05/05/2026 16:41

I highly rate Kemi. Absolute Queen 👸🏾 💅🏾! As my teen daughters would say 😂

In all seriousness, I like her clarity, her pragmatism, and her straight forwardness. She is intelligent with a sense of purpose.

She isn’t intelligent, she thinks autism is a MH condition and what purpose? She has no policies.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 16:45

Dweetfidilove · 05/05/2026 14:41

You're under the impression that a party with an ethnic minority leader cannot be racist. Wrong!
The most racial gaslighting I have witnessed, was perpetrated by the Tory Party with an ethnically diverse cabinet.
It was a blatant representation of - I can't be racist, I have black and brown friends.
See the disastrous Liz beating Rishi for leadership, though Rishi was the assumed favourite and far superior candidate.

I was more making the point that the Labour Party have NEVER had a females leader. And the Labour party have NEVER had a person of colour as leader. I dare say they'd hyperventilate at the mere thought of a black (gasp) woman (gasp) being leader.

Hallowedturf · 05/05/2026 16:46

CurlewKate · 05/05/2026 16:25

Ah yes-McDonalds. Where she “became working class”🤣🤣

Meanwhile Starmer perpetually tried to burnish his working class credentials with ‘toolmakers son’

Ad nauseum.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:48

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 16:45

I was more making the point that the Labour Party have NEVER had a females leader. And the Labour party have NEVER had a person of colour as leader. I dare say they'd hyperventilate at the mere thought of a black (gasp) woman (gasp) being leader.

Kier also treated Diane Abbott appallingly. She herself said he treated her as a 'non-person'. I suspect it's how he sees most women. The ones without penises anyway.

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 16:49

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Yes, very nasty stuff.

WoodforTrees · 05/05/2026 16:50

It's such a low bar and I have felt politically homeless for so long that I do wonder if I am clutching, but.... yes, she seems to be the best of the bunch at the moment.

I like that she isn't afraid to answer a question, even if her view won't be for everyone. It's refreshing after the usual vaguery and flip-flopping and actually something that the odious Farage does well. At least you know what they stand for.

I never thought I'd be voting Tory at the next general election, but my vote is probably going to come down to a process of elimination:

Labour - Not a chance I'd vote for Starmer ever again.
Reform - Farage and his cronies - no thank you
Green - Insidious and dangerous. Un-recognisable from the environmentally focussed Green Party of former years.

Lib Dem - I mean honestly, if ever there was an opportunity to see the gap, grow up and be a proper party it was now, and they have failed. And even if they had sorted themselves out, they can fuck right off with their Men In Dresses.
Restore - Vile

And that leaves Kemi.

At least if a lot of people vote for her, it will dilute the Reform vote, although i'm not sure that it's clear who is coming in second at the moment - it seems to flip-flop between Labour and Tories.

ScribblingPixie · 05/05/2026 16:50

JollyDenimSeal · 05/05/2026 16:34

She has a clue about the working classes because she once worked in McDonald's. Does she have a clue what it's like to live in poverty and choose between heating or eating like I had to more than once -,, give me strength

There are some politicians who actually did grow up in a working class environment. Working in McDonald's does not make someone working class. On any level

There are some really interesting interviews where she talks about her middle-class childhood in Nigeria, and the mix of privilege and difficulty she experienced growing up. Crime, violence, military government, electricity cuts meaning doing her homework by candelight, collecting the family's daily water by bucket etc etc. I don't think you can make a direct comparison with a UK childhood but I'd say she definitely understands poverty and hardship of a more extreme form than most of us have ever experienced.

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2026 16:50

I'm astonished anyone on mn supports her. Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist, she believes autistic people have too much privilege, and supports cutting maternity pay.

I prefer my prime ministers less oppressive to minority groups.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:51

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Agree 100%. I see far more bigoted behaviour from the left than the right wing these days.

Kemi standing up against anti-semitism was very impressive. She's right about this being how it started in Germany too.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:52

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2026 16:50

I'm astonished anyone on mn supports her. Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist, she believes autistic people have too much privilege, and supports cutting maternity pay.

I prefer my prime ministers less oppressive to minority groups.

So do you think the Taliban culture of women not having any human rights or even access to medical care when ill is equally valid as British culture? Because I don't.

GingerRhubarb · 05/05/2026 16:53

ScribblingPixie · 05/05/2026 16:50

There are some really interesting interviews where she talks about her middle-class childhood in Nigeria, and the mix of privilege and difficulty she experienced growing up. Crime, violence, military government, electricity cuts meaning doing her homework by candelight, collecting the family's daily water by bucket etc etc. I don't think you can make a direct comparison with a UK childhood but I'd say she definitely understands poverty and hardship of a more extreme form than most of us have ever experienced.

Oh come on I think not. Her father was a doctor and her mother a professor. Reports indicate her family was part of the local elite, living in the middle-class area of Surulere, with her father's clinic treating oil company employees.

PenelopePepper · 05/05/2026 16:54

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:15

She was fully on top of her brief and knew the finer details on women's rights when it was toxic to stand up for women and detransitioners like Kiera Bell.

Can you give specific examples of where she lacks substance?

We'd we joining in a war now if she had been at the helm, before she changed her mind of course.

TheKeatingFive · 05/05/2026 16:54

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2026 16:50

I'm astonished anyone on mn supports her. Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist, she believes autistic people have too much privilege, and supports cutting maternity pay.

I prefer my prime ministers less oppressive to minority groups.

Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist

This is ridiculous, sorry.

You think life in Afghanistan is and 'equally valid' approach to female inclusion compared to the West?

MulberryBrandy · 05/05/2026 16:54

The most serious issue that is ongoing in the world is Iran. Kemi would have involved this country in that war. She was very hawkish but did not know what she was talking about.

This would have had a detrimental effect on all of us. If you think about the insensitivity with the Bloody Sunday video she is increasingly getting it wrong.

GingerRhubarb · 05/05/2026 16:55

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2026 16:50

I'm astonished anyone on mn supports her. Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist, she believes autistic people have too much privilege, and supports cutting maternity pay.

I prefer my prime ministers less oppressive to minority groups.

Me too! And the ignorance!!! Incapable of doing research she printed leaflets slating autism and trying to whip up hatred whilst calling it a MH condition. 🤦🏻‍♀️

itsnotallaboutyouyousee · 05/05/2026 16:56

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:48

Kier also treated Diane Abbott appallingly. She herself said he treated her as a 'non-person'. I suspect it's how he sees most women. The ones without penises anyway.

Yes/ He's treated so many women in his party terribly.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/keir-starmers-arrogant-sexism-is-revealed-during-question-time-trans-debate-4674773

Hallowedturf · 05/05/2026 16:56

MulberryBrandy · 05/05/2026 16:54

The most serious issue that is ongoing in the world is Iran. Kemi would have involved this country in that war. She was very hawkish but did not know what she was talking about.

This would have had a detrimental effect on all of us. If you think about the insensitivity with the Bloody Sunday video she is increasingly getting it wrong.

At the other end of the spectrum is Starmer.

If defence of the realm were urgently required, he would need to consult his team etc.

His backbenches would meanwhile kibosh it.

ScribblingPixie · 05/05/2026 16:57

GingerRhubarb · 05/05/2026 16:53

Oh come on I think not. Her father was a doctor and her mother a professor. Reports indicate her family was part of the local elite, living in the middle-class area of Surulere, with her father's clinic treating oil company employees.

Watch the interviews yourself maybe? Being in a middle-class family in Nigeria didn't protect her or her family from hardships that most of us would balk at. You mentioned choosing between heating and eating. She often didn't have access to running water or electricity. They both seem like tough situations to me.

EasternStandard · 05/05/2026 16:58

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 16:51

Agree 100%. I see far more bigoted behaviour from the left than the right wing these days.

Kemi standing up against anti-semitism was very impressive. She's right about this being how it started in Germany too.

Perhaps this is all coming back to bite, we’ll see on Thursday.

Upstartled · 05/05/2026 16:59

Stompythedinosaur · 05/05/2026 16:50

I'm astonished anyone on mn supports her. Her stance on "not all cultures are equally valid" is openly racist, she believes autistic people have too much privilege, and supports cutting maternity pay.

I prefer my prime ministers less oppressive to minority groups.

Of course not all cultures have equal worth. Or do you think you can just chalk throwing homosexuals off buildings or marrying off small girls to grown men to cultural relativism?

Dweetfidilove · 05/05/2026 16:59

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It is a good descriptor for Kemi, Zack and Keir. They're all political prostitutes in my opinion. I'm an equal opportunities critic, so neither racist nor sexist.
I don't care about any of them enough to hate them either. I think they're all nasty pieces of work in different ways.
Now, if you say Reform; I have even stronger views there, but this thread is for Kemi.

GingerRhubarb · 05/05/2026 16:59

ScribblingPixie · 05/05/2026 16:57

Watch the interviews yourself maybe? Being in a middle-class family in Nigeria didn't protect her or her family from hardships that most of us would balk at. You mentioned choosing between heating and eating. She often didn't have access to running water or electricity. They both seem like tough situations to me.

Oh come on she is known for over egging situations eg McDonalds and her Stanford claims.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 05/05/2026 16:59

historyismything82 · 05/05/2026 16:41

She always has and will get our vote.

Is she your MP?

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