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To think there will be many more disabled adults in 20 years?

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Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 22:04

I’m disabled myself, just to put that out there.

It just seems like the number of people with a disability, usually a psychiatric one, is going through the roof.

40% of disability benefit claimants are claiming for mental health related reasons. The number of anxious children and teens on here, and that I know in my own life and family, is really really high. So many schools refusers and kids in need of extra support, special school placements and so on. It seems there are a lot of unemployed young adults living at home who simply don’t have the mental acuity to get a job, live independently, have a life of their own.

3 children in my family are currently school refusing, one we only found out about today but it was not a surprise as she’s always been very anxious and has selective mutism.

My AIBU is, should we be doing something to prepare for what may be a very high number of adults not working in years to come? How will we sustain them all?

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Abandofangelsincivvies · 04/05/2026 00:11

ClawsandEffect · 03/05/2026 23:16

In my family, 4 in the generation under mine. The youngest is 20, oldest 40. Out of these 4,

1 is in full-time, very functional employment, living independently (had to be forced into moving out).

1 in part-time employment, living with parents, not paying their way.

1 in sporadic employment, living independently BUT funded by parents.

1 unemployed (unemployable?), living with and funded by parents.

I think it is no coincidence that the one that is employed and independent had the strictest parent. This individual is ND, diagnosed in childhood.

The other 3 are also ND to varying degrees. But had permissive parents. 1 of these 3 was allowed to drop out of school. Officially home schooled. In reality did very little educationally. Another 1 of them was allowed to drop out of FE college (there WAS a traumatic family experience that contributed to this).

The child who dropped out of school is probably the cleverest of all of the 4 of that them. A life wasted, because without any education, they are stuck in insecure, entry level jobs. We had such high hopes for them when they were small. All that ability wasted.

I think the common factor is not the ND. I'm pretty sure ND runs through our whole family, not just the one that was diagnosed. I think the key factor is parental expectation that education is mandatory. Also parental willingness to have a firm boundary over what is acceptable and what isn't. Unkind? Probably. Practical? Also probably.

Parents have to take responsibility. If you want a functional child, you have to force them to become functional. This doesn't apply to 100% of children. There will always be a proportion who can't achieve it. But most can. And allowing them to think they can opt out hobbles them before they begin.

As the mother of one adult child with ASD, and one allistic adult child, both of whom are making their way in the world, working and studying for their Masters, I have a slightly different viewpoint.

Totally agree about expectations and inculcating a can-do attitude. We prioritised education for both dc too but had the means to call in private tutors for a couple of years when my autistic child could not cope in mainstream school, And I could afford to give up my work and support them during that period too. And to support their travel. And support their gradual return to ft education which took place in increments. Not everyone has those choices available to them.

I believe that some ASD children should be pushed more and there are some for whom that would be a disaster. I think the majority of parents do their best to encourage children to stay in ft education until it becomes appallingly difficult. And most parents know their dc best too. Especially when they mask at school to a high degree.

I’m in my sixties and when I look back at my own classmates from years ago, the correlation between educational performance and academic success is not quite as clear cut as you might think. Yes the majority of us who studied at university have achieved what I would call a basic to average middle class lifestyle. But I can think of two of my classmates who failed exams, one of whom had dyslexia, who have gone on to out perform all of the rest of us in terms of earning power and soaring careers. They are both highly successful business entrepreneurs.

So to say that the cleverest of the young people in your family has wasted their life and therefore this will apply to most adult dc who drop out of ft education is untrue, and dare I say, rather offensive. First, it depends what your assessment encompasses when you classify a life as “wasted”, and second, from that person’s pov, if their life is a struggle, they and their family may see them as living as successfully as they can within their particular limitations and may be proud of them for doing so. You can have a fabulous academic brain and be completely unable to function in the real world.

And sorry, but the entire condition of autism, auto > the self, can be hidden internally, especially in girls, so you may be judging them on the grounds of the public face they present to the world rather than their inner struggles, the extent of which may only be fully apparent to their parents.

Also, unless your mh is good, you can’t really learn properly or excel in anything. I have seen children with severe anxiety or with autism or other SEN being forced to stay in school and enduring years of stress, and although they completed their school education and passed exams, it all fell apart at university or later on when the wheels came off.

Autism was explained to me, and I am
sorry if I offend anyone by writing this, as essentially a different wiring of the brain that can cause developmental delays in some areas. Therefore some teenagers or young adults can really benefit from a year or two outside of mainstream education so that certain parts of their development has time to catch up and mature with the rest. And some can go on to excel or at least function after that pause and others do not, But I suspect the reasons that lay behind their being able to cope or not, are more innate than anything relating to what their parents did or didn’t do.

Most parents in the UK are desperately trying to find ways to get their anxious or neurodiverse child’s education supported in mainstream education and many are met with a blank wall despite making enormous efforts on their behalf.

SemperIdem · 04/05/2026 00:12

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:07

Adults with high functioning neurodiversity have always had children.

I understand what @elliejjtiny is getting at here. We are living through a time where it has never been more important to be able to fit oneself into a label, there is far less freedom to be a bit different, not follow the beaten path. As far as I can see it, life in 2026 is far more restrictive than it was 2006. Not least because employers will do a tick box exercise on being flexible and making reasonable adjustments and then still be horribly difficult in reality.

SlumChum · 04/05/2026 00:12

The only way forward is to create more jobs that can be filled by disabled people, or have universal basic income funded by taxes on companies that use lots of AI/robotics in place of humans. We need to find ways of paying people for work they can do, or putting money in people's pockets regardless, in order for the economy to function. If we don't, then money simply stops circulating.

Livelovebehappy · 04/05/2026 00:13

I’m no politician but I predict in 20 years time, the UK will be in a mess. AI will have really embedded - less jobs. Disability claimants will probably have overtaken people actually holding down full time jobs, so more coming out of the pot than going in. The Rich will have been taxed to the hilt, so will have escaped to their holidays homes abroad, so the middle earners will be picking up the slack. It makes for very grim reading, but that will be the reality.

CostOfLoving · 04/05/2026 00:13

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:08

Nor is life more stressful

I think it might be stressful in a different way than our brains and bodies can deal with.

So not objectively more stress, just more of the wrong kind of stress that leaves us crippled rather than rising to the challenge.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 04/05/2026 00:14

flagpolesitta · 03/05/2026 22:13

Yes this is one aspect people forget- people are having babies much older on average which raises risks, also a much much higher number of babies are thankfully surviving prematurity, pregnancy complications and other complexities that wouldn’t have made it in previous generations.

Starting older but not having them older. Women have always had babies in their 40s. But yes, many more survive infancy now.

Charlize43 · 04/05/2026 00:15

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:02

I do think that secretly a scarily large number of people think that eugenics in its more extreme forms might be a solution. There is a dehumanising zeitgeist aimed at anyone who is "costing too much money". It's all couched very cleverly of course, and designed to divert attention from things like the biggest wealth transfer upwards to already "rich" people which really got going during the pandemic.

It's why I am extremely conflicted about Assisted Dying, especially given a couple of recent cases in the news.

There is a dehumanising zeitgeist aimed at anyone who is "costing too much money".

But where does the money come from? If everyone stops working because of MH issues, they'll be no tax, eventually the pot of hand outs will run out because no one is putting anything in.

This is what mystifies me about Universal Basic Income - No one works and everyone is handed enough money to live off and poverty is eradicated. But where is the government going to get the money from? Where does the money come from? I'm not getting it.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 04/05/2026 00:17

RaininSummer · 03/05/2026 22:58

Some of these anxious people may feel better able to cope if they got off the internet, turned off the tv and developed some interests or hobbies. I do think these things have made anxiety and not leaving the house or bedroom much worse. I recall very few if any young people struggling like this when I was a teenager.

How would you have heard about them before the internet?

Staceyeatscarrots · 04/05/2026 00:19

ClawsandEffect · 03/05/2026 23:16

In my family, 4 in the generation under mine. The youngest is 20, oldest 40. Out of these 4,

1 is in full-time, very functional employment, living independently (had to be forced into moving out).

1 in part-time employment, living with parents, not paying their way.

1 in sporadic employment, living independently BUT funded by parents.

1 unemployed (unemployable?), living with and funded by parents.

I think it is no coincidence that the one that is employed and independent had the strictest parent. This individual is ND, diagnosed in childhood.

The other 3 are also ND to varying degrees. But had permissive parents. 1 of these 3 was allowed to drop out of school. Officially home schooled. In reality did very little educationally. Another 1 of them was allowed to drop out of FE college (there WAS a traumatic family experience that contributed to this).

The child who dropped out of school is probably the cleverest of all of the 4 of that them. A life wasted, because without any education, they are stuck in insecure, entry level jobs. We had such high hopes for them when they were small. All that ability wasted.

I think the common factor is not the ND. I'm pretty sure ND runs through our whole family, not just the one that was diagnosed. I think the key factor is parental expectation that education is mandatory. Also parental willingness to have a firm boundary over what is acceptable and what isn't. Unkind? Probably. Practical? Also probably.

Parents have to take responsibility. If you want a functional child, you have to force them to become functional. This doesn't apply to 100% of children. There will always be a proportion who can't achieve it. But most can. And allowing them to think they can opt out hobbles them before they begin.

This is spot on.
School refusal didn’t exist in the 70s/80s. Some kids bunked off but that was without their parents knowledge or acceptance.

Lifesd · 04/05/2026 00:19

Nothingl3ft · 03/05/2026 22:43

I think we'd be better to look at why it's happening, because quite honestly I don't believe that 'no one wants to work because benefits are so lucrative' sure, there's some who play the system (and everyone on MN seems to know the ins and outs of at least one person doing it apparently) or that it's because it's less taboo these days or 'fashionable' to be ND or have a mental illness/disability or physical illness/disability, something is wrong on a much bigger, societal and fundamental level than laziness and 'benefits culture' - I mean how have we come to a point where benefits are needed to top up ft wages? Where you're only marginally better off for working 40 hours plus a week than if you were on benefits? And I don't think that benefits are too high, you can survive on them, that's what they're designed for - so how does it work that employers can pay a tiny amount more for your time (which is usually offset by the costs associated with working) and own you?

I think it's the pressure that modern society puts on people, of all ages, that is causing so many to buckle under it, and it's all down to one thing - money.

I think a large part of it is a sheer lack of resilience being taught to people. I read frequent threads on here about children being allowed to game all day, not work, show utter disrespect and contempt for their elders. There is a rush to diagnose ND conditions and the excuses that flow from that. The reality is the country can’t afford to prop up millions idling away on benefits because day to day life is “too hard”. It also makes a mockery of the system that should be there to genuinely support people as by spreading the benefits bill who thinly means that people who need genuine support don’t get it (or enough of it).

Staceyeatscarrots · 04/05/2026 00:21

Lifesd · 04/05/2026 00:19

I think a large part of it is a sheer lack of resilience being taught to people. I read frequent threads on here about children being allowed to game all day, not work, show utter disrespect and contempt for their elders. There is a rush to diagnose ND conditions and the excuses that flow from that. The reality is the country can’t afford to prop up millions idling away on benefits because day to day life is “too hard”. It also makes a mockery of the system that should be there to genuinely support people as by spreading the benefits bill who thinly means that people who need genuine support don’t get it (or enough of it).

Well said

SemperIdem · 04/05/2026 00:22

@DeftGoldHedgehog that is such a good point and it is vastly overlooked. The contraceptive pill was introduced in the 1960’s, prior to that women had babies until the end of their reproductive life.

My maternal great grandmother was in her 40’s when my grandmother was born, she’s 88 now. The youngest child.

How old do people think parents of large families pre-contraception days were at the end of their reproductive life, 30?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:22

Charlize43 · 04/05/2026 00:15

There is a dehumanising zeitgeist aimed at anyone who is "costing too much money".

But where does the money come from? If everyone stops working because of MH issues, they'll be no tax, eventually the pot of hand outs will run out because no one is putting anything in.

This is what mystifies me about Universal Basic Income - No one works and everyone is handed enough money to live off and poverty is eradicated. But where is the government going to get the money from? Where does the money come from? I'm not getting it.

This requires a complete restructuring of the world economy, away from neo-liberal capitalism. Accumulation of wealth = power, and the combination is as powerful an addiction as any drug. Until the overall well-being of people and community are valued more than material gain, and misguided morality driven judgements are divorced from the practical issues, things will decline, and we'll never escape the boom and bust cycles that have underpinned history since the industrial revolution.

Abandofangelsincivvies · 04/05/2026 00:23

Nothingl3ft · 03/05/2026 22:43

I think we'd be better to look at why it's happening, because quite honestly I don't believe that 'no one wants to work because benefits are so lucrative' sure, there's some who play the system (and everyone on MN seems to know the ins and outs of at least one person doing it apparently) or that it's because it's less taboo these days or 'fashionable' to be ND or have a mental illness/disability or physical illness/disability, something is wrong on a much bigger, societal and fundamental level than laziness and 'benefits culture' - I mean how have we come to a point where benefits are needed to top up ft wages? Where you're only marginally better off for working 40 hours plus a week than if you were on benefits? And I don't think that benefits are too high, you can survive on them, that's what they're designed for - so how does it work that employers can pay a tiny amount more for your time (which is usually offset by the costs associated with working) and own you?

I think it's the pressure that modern society puts on people, of all ages, that is causing so many to buckle under it, and it's all down to one thing - money.

I think there is a lot of truth in this. If so many young adults can’t live independently in Western modern societies, then surely we need to look at the environment we are expecting them to thrive in?

According to uk government stats, “approx 31% of children in the UK, or 4.5 million, were living in poverty as of March 2025, which is around nine in a classroom of 30. This represents the highest level since 2002, with around 72% of these children living in working families”.

29000seconds · 04/05/2026 00:23

elliejjtiny · 03/05/2026 22:22

I agree. A combination of babies surviving, adults with high functioning neurodiversity having children and life becoming more stressful means there are more people with disabilities.

Neurodiverse adults always had children. It’s hereditory so there wouldn’t be any neurodiverse people if they hadn’t had children previously and passed on their genes. And without them everyone else would most likely still be living in a cave trying to figure out how to light a fire and hoping wolves don’t eat them, so be grateful.

Ilovecrispytofu · 04/05/2026 00:24

Some of the posts on this thread really remind me of statements the Victorians (mostly rich white men of course) made about the apparent need to prevent poor, ‘feeble minded’ people from breeding. Depressing that this nonsense continues to be recycled more than 100 years later.

Hallamule · 04/05/2026 00:26

CostOfLoving · 04/05/2026 00:13

I think it might be stressful in a different way than our brains and bodies can deal with.

So not objectively more stress, just more of the wrong kind of stress that leaves us crippled rather than rising to the challenge.

More stressful than being property? Or forced off your land? Or trying to survive famine, or a hundred years war? More stressful than being pregnant every year and loosing half of your children before their 5th birthday?

I think not.

samthepigeon · 04/05/2026 00:26

FloralDeerPattern · 03/05/2026 22:51

I think that rather than preparing for more mentally ill people the question should be asked what is contributing to this? Poverty, poor housing, stress, inequality, discrimination all contribute to poor mental heath. The answer is to make Britain a healthier place to be.

While I agree with this, work is also good for mental health, and will improve people's lives financially too, which will give them a better standard of living.

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 04/05/2026 00:26

Bunnyfuller1 · 03/05/2026 23:54

I’m sure this is unpopular but think for a minute…

Who are the biggest net users of NHS? The elderly. As well as state pensions which were never expected to be funded for as long as they are, more and more money is being spent on pensioners to keep them alive, to the develop another health issue requiring further interventions to keep them alive. Add in the pensions being paid, and other support. Those that contribute the least are taking the most out! And there’s more of them!

I honestly think heroic life-prolonging procedures for those of state pension age is a luxury we can no longer afford. The wealthy don’t want to pay any (more) tax,, the middle class is disappearing thanks to the cost of living and not receiving any support whilst their income has stagnated, and the working class need benefit support because low/no income opportunities/childcare costs.

I watch some of the medical fly on the wall stuff, and there are so many 80+ having extensive surgery to remove a cancer to give them a few more years.

I get the emotional aspect, but at this stage I honestly think it’s a luxury the public can’t fund. This would also extend to keeping those with dementia and other terminal diagnoses. Once state pension is hit then medicine needs to be considered On a cost/benefit basis.

Carousel!

samthepigeon · 04/05/2026 00:28

Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 23:08

I think they should buy up buildings in each major town/city to renovate into small, 1 bedroom flats. I think a lot of these kids as adults will simply spend their lives on computer games and tablets and just need adequate lodgings and basic needs met.

Who is 'they'? And where does the money come from?

29000seconds · 04/05/2026 00:31

Walkyrie · 03/05/2026 22:33

I saw a television show where they said pregnancies are being propped up now by medicine that would never have been sustained 30 years ago.

I feel like this is something we can get ahead of the curve on, we shouldn’t just leave it to stagnate and then panic like we have with immigration/pensions

”Get ahead of the curve” in what respect? Refuse treatment to mothers that could save their babies’ lives?

Should we just stop all childhood vaccinations as well and let nature take its course?

How about cancer treatment? Antibiotics?

What are your proposals to “fix” this “problem” you have identified of modern medicine saving too many lives?

samthepigeon · 04/05/2026 00:32

TheKittenswithMittens · 03/05/2026 23:16

These threads always end up at "We can't afford the Triple Lock". Those millionaire boomers, blah balh.

The triple lock was never intended to be permanent, but only in force till pensions had risen to a certain level. This was to lift pensioners out of the poverty they had been living in up to the 1980s. That level has not been reached yet. But it will be a brave govt that gets rid of it!

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:35

samthepigeon · 04/05/2026 00:26

While I agree with this, work is also good for mental health, and will improve people's lives financially too, which will give them a better standard of living.

Modern life means that work is often associated with punitive regimes, and a good percentage of it gives little in the way of feeling purposeful or as if people are doing much more than facilitating the wealth of shareholders while having to claim top ups from the state to reach a basic workable standard of living. The absurdity of it all is overlooked because a majority are exhausted by the hamster wheel but can't afford to get off it.

A proportion of the "disabled" by mental health have been driven there by their jobs!

Abandofangelsincivvies · 04/05/2026 00:38

Lifesd · 04/05/2026 00:19

I think a large part of it is a sheer lack of resilience being taught to people. I read frequent threads on here about children being allowed to game all day, not work, show utter disrespect and contempt for their elders. There is a rush to diagnose ND conditions and the excuses that flow from that. The reality is the country can’t afford to prop up millions idling away on benefits because day to day life is “too hard”. It also makes a mockery of the system that should be there to genuinely support people as by spreading the benefits bill who thinly means that people who need genuine support don’t get it (or enough of it).

I love the way you characterise the diagnosing of autism as a “rush”. It took fifteen years for my dd, during which she really struggled.

Also, if you want to talk about resilience, then my dd and her friends with ASD could teach you a few things about trying to live day to day in an environment where you can’t filter out background noises or conversations, supermarket lights make you dizzy, everyday smells and sights can make you vomit, you vomit with anxiety before leaving the house, you can’t identify facial expressions, you can’t express or communicate how you are feeling because you can’t fully comprehend it yourself, you have sleep difficulties, gut issues, you are horribly bullied, and struggle to make friends, and yet you still manage to study and work pt given the correct support. Now that’s what I call resilience.

Charlize43 · 04/05/2026 00:38

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/05/2026 00:22

This requires a complete restructuring of the world economy, away from neo-liberal capitalism. Accumulation of wealth = power, and the combination is as powerful an addiction as any drug. Until the overall well-being of people and community are valued more than material gain, and misguided morality driven judgements are divorced from the practical issues, things will decline, and we'll never escape the boom and bust cycles that have underpinned history since the industrial revolution.

That doesn't really answer where the money is going to come from?

You can't give hand outs, if you have nothing to hand out.