Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Interesting that you chose not to answer the question.

They’re not dead. This comment absolutely proves the issue. You want to jump on a post and be a virtue signaller … Whilst simultaneously knowing absolutely nothing.

OP have you taken a second out of your day to imagine what it feels like to be a Jewish person in the aftermath of a targeted attack against Jewish people? I’d ask the same regardless of the group (if you are a Muslim after a targeted attack on Muslim people, or a queer person after a targeted attack on LGBTQ+ people…etc). I think your POV on this is way way off.

Apparently they’re ’keeping an eye on it.’ But yeah, it’s full of all the usual dog-whistle tropes.

Well as it was reported on by all TV news stations and many radio stations aswell as the written media only somebody who doesn't have any engagement with the national press would be ignorant of the fact.
Really without meaning to be a dick the fact that you were ignorant of the facts says more about you than the quality of news reporting or any narrative that some posters are trying to claim.
Perhaps this should be a wake-up call to actually read, listen or watch the news beyond the headlines in future

You think anti semitism has been “blown out of proportion” you think a terrorist attack on our Jewish communities has been blown out of proportion?” You think, where many members of one of the parties standing in those local elections have posted many anti semitic comments (resulting in the arrest of two of them) that the rise in antisemitism is irrelevant to local elections??

What's your stance on the holocaust I wonder if you think we should keep anti semitism out of the spotlight light?

Where is the mental gymnastics in noting a difference between a minor knife attack on a friend at home in a dispute and travelling a significant distance to an area heavily populated by a particular and visually identifiable demographic and stabbing people unknown to the attacker apparently chosen for no reason beyond their Jewish appearance.

I'd argue that trying to see them as the same is the mental gymnastics...

You really think only 3 people in London got stabbed that day? Sadly, stabbings don’t generally make the national news because they’re too common. Someone deliberately travelling to an area to find and target unknown people because of their identity is still thankfully rare, so does get reported

What’s vile is that people are desperately clinging to anything in an attempt to ‘prove’ there is no massive problem with antisemitism in the U.K.

At least we now know where the Greens get their support from I suppose.

Let us beware of posters who try to make hay out of this horrible incident to whip up tension and resentment. There seem to be a few on this thread who are strangely ignorant of the facts but insistent making very emotive statements based on half truths or complete untruths (‘someone has died and the media and govt are trying to cover it up because they are not Jewish…’). Whether they are caught up in hype of online conspiracy theory bubbles, or are intentionally stoking resentment and misinformation, who knows. Thank goodness for the Mumsnet posters who patiently explain the facts, over and over….

Oh fuck off

Valdo Calocane was the case that came to my mind in this context.

MH services are shockingly under-resourced, and it's not surprising that people slip through the net. (My DB has significant MH issues and is given to paranoia, and there have been times when I've been concerned that his paranoid thoughts might lead him to do something awful.)

Yes he attacked a police officer and a police dog in 2008. This also has been widely reported on.
What media narrative are you claiming

Yes he just happened to travel several miles to an area that’s well known for having a large population of Jewish people, then happened to feel the urge to stab people outside of a synagogue and then happened to choose two obviously Jewish men as his victims.

He may well be mentally ill but there are degrees of that. It’s perfectly possible for him to be mentally ill and hate Jews and still commit an act of terrorism. He may be found culpable or partly so or he may not. I have no idea. That’s for the courts to decide but regardless I do not think that these men were random targets.

Idiots?

It seems it was mentioned in earlier morning press release ? but it was a personal dispute the first victim. Then the next 2 victims later on. I think this attacker had not long been released from a some sort of mental facility if I’m right in saying?

So... it's an anti Jewish conspiracy theory?
How vile.

I have made the mistake of reading and listening to too much comment since the attack in Golders Green and I’m feeling thoroughly depressed. I just despair for the future.

Your convoluted response proves my point perfectly.

Well no, because exactly the sane principles would have applied. Terrorist incident v domestic incident.

For example school shootings have often been proceeded by a domestic incident. The media rightly concentrate on theme school shootings element although the killing of say family members is also mentioned but for obvious reasons to a lesser extent.

It's interesting to see that the first attack on a Muslim was a 'personal dispute' - but what is reported is that the attacker left his home, travelled to the home of someone he knew and attacked them when they opened the front door. I'm interested to hear more detail about why that is being treated as a 'personal dispute' and not a racist attack.

The Met police tweet pinned by the OP ignoring the attempted murder of the Muslim victim is disgraceful and racist.

I would also question if the actions of a man who very recently left a secure psychiatric unit really tell us much about prejudice in the UK. Sadly it shows that psychiatric risk assessments and management are inadequate. It'll be very interesting to see if he is deemed to have full responsibility for his actions - may be a case of reduced responsibility on mental capacity grounds. It'll all come out in court.

(edited as news reports show the attacker did know his victim)