AIBU to want politicians with strong academic and business backgrounds?

[Catsandjkr]

AIBU to want politicans to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?

I'm so tired of these low grade politicians ruining our lives. They can lie (as Starmer exempifies), they don't need qualifications or experience to get the job. In inexplicable in other areas of life.

What a joke. But I suppose when its politicans like Lammy, Starmer, Reeves in charge, it won't ever change.

When does he "go on" (or "drone" as you said earlier) about it?

Moreover, you keep adapting your argument as you go along. You DID in fact, suggest he "didn't do brilliantly in his exams...Hence rejected by Oxford". You make pejoriative comments about "lefties" and "Starmer lovers" but your own unpleasant bias about Starmer is blatantly evident.

Why not stick to facts - name the type of politicians you believe fit your criteria and have previously been successful.

No, but the problem in reality is if you are intelligent and smart enough to be a successful politician, you could probably earn four times that amount in the private sector. Very few people want to be, or our encouraged to be, a career politician which is in essence what you need to be. I do strongly believe that experienced intelligent people should be running the country and making decisions.

I don’t know anyone who has ever been encouraged to be a career politician. I don’t necessarily think we need people from business. They’ll just support capitalism. We need to protect the NHS,. We also need to be in government for more than three years, it’s just chop & change and no time to implement anything.

We need people from all walks of life, but it’s a government salary, we all know ex prime minister‘s make all their money after being in office. Not whilst the PM.

and before you tell me the prime minister’s salary is big. Yes, it is, but that person would earn four times as much if they were in private practice.

I honestly think it's just such a boys club. And a lot of people who would actually do the job really ethically are probably naturally quite opposed to the 'game playing' element.

If we were more proactive in encouraging politics in schools and youth groups in a meaningful way I think there would be a big difference in how we see it gradually filtering up.

To me what's also needed is genuine awareness and empathy for marginalised or monitory groups as well as what it's tough for people in all walks of life. I work in the community sector and plenty of times I've seen people interviewing for jobs with excellent qualifications who can talk really well but who I just know won't be able to do the work on the ground and gain trust and properly lead in an authentic way. I think there's a lot of overlap between that and politics. My issue with those who are more wealthy and privately educated is that they often are there via connections rather than genuine passion and are more focused on keeping their supporters happy and will say whatever they need to in order to get votes than making actual beneficial change. The sheer privilege undermines the education and business sense.

Similarly if you're handed a business at a youngish age that's already been built and is well established and family to bank roll it and a package of connections already established - how hard really is that to keep going? Whereas someone who's genuinely built something from scratch is going to have much more knowledge and skill.

Just to point out that a UK government can stay in power for FIVE years.
Edit: quoted wrong post.

You are aware, I take it, that global law firms, huge international businesses, are run by... lawyers?

What nonsense from the OP, as in the post doesn't make sense. It's full of contradictions.

Starmer and Reeves are both very highly qualified. Are you saying they are lying about their qualifications?

Is Trump academically qualified? Is he really a business person, or did he just hang on the coat tails of the money his allegedly corrupt dad made? These things I guess don't matter to you, don't fit your mental model. That is ok. I won't call you ridiculous, that's rude and a nasty - I'm used to it from the left tbh. Just misguided, slightly ill informed, but that's ok too. Fret not. I'm not judging. Well, not much.

Yes, but they’re rarely there for 5

Are you serious? Read pp I'm not explaining again (it shouldn't need explaining). It's embarrassing for people that comprehension levels are so low here. Though somehow, not surprising.

Better than 14 years of corrupt Tories, yes. But it's going to take time to undo the damage the conservatives did. You can't seriously expect anyone to undo 14 years of damage in only 2 years, can you!

That's true. Why be a politician in that case. Explains the desert we currently have.

It was badly expressed. And once again, your aggressive, combative, and insulting tone towards those disagreeing with you doesn't make your arguments any better.

Not really - but they Are succeeding in making a lot of it much much much worse. That is pretty unbelievable.

The only qualifier for politicians imo is integrity and vision for the greater good.

Snob class values should have no place in politics. You’re as bad as them op for thinking that privilege makes you a better person.

True. Gets tiresome.

What have they made worse?

Trump is academically qualified as pointed out in other comments, and he is a "businessman " as in he has had multiple businesses. So he fits your perfect persona for what a politician should be.

But you're chaging your story because the original is flawed.

Alas, I must be a lefty... a rude one at that.

I'm done. I have lefty things to be getting on with... Ill leave you misguided and ill informed.

Actually I was very clear. I even used a capital A at the beginning of And. Sigh..

Indeed. The OP seems to be under the impression that there was formerly a time when governments comprised the combination of academic high achievers who ran very successful businesses, rather than the largely privileged male, public school and Oxbridge educated elite.

Incorrect use of a capital in the middle of a sentence.

Just so that we're clear, however - are you serously suggesting that all politicians should be academically elite and have run successful businesses?

Or that it should be a criterion for being in the a cabinet post and those politicians not meeting this criterion shoulbe banned from such cabinet posts?

They’re not. What’s unbelievable is your ridiculous assertion that current politicians are uneducated. You should have seen the most transformative cabinet of recent history - Attlee’s.

He's not really academically qualified and he's not really a successful business man- He's just a guy who inherited a business form his dad. I'm surprised you think he meets the criteria.

I didn't say that but you can continue as if I did

😂Thanks, that made me laugh.

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AIBU to want politicans to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?

I'm so tired of these low grade politicians ruining our lives. They can lie (as Starmer exempifies), they don't need qualifications or experience to get the job. In inexplicable in other areas of life.

What a joke. But I suppose when its politicans like Lammy, Starmer, Reeves in charge, it won't ever change.

I just copied and pasted it.