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AIBU to want politicians with strong academic and business backgrounds?

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Catsandjkr · 30/04/2026 12:33

AIBU to want politicans to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?

I'm so tired of these low grade politicians ruining our lives. They can lie (as Starmer exempifies), they don't need qualifications or experience to get the job. In inexplicable in other areas of life.

What a joke. But I suppose when its politicans like Lammy, Starmer, Reeves in charge, it won't ever change.

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Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 10:32

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 02/05/2026 07:11

@MrsShawnHatosy They have too much compassion. It’s why a minority get a lot of benefits that others pay heavily towards. It’s not just about listening to complaining constituents. We need people with vision to unpick the issues and take long term decisions. What we don’t need is knee jerk compassion.

Agreed

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pinkstinks · 02/05/2026 10:44

Would you count running a charity as running a business? That might widen the pool and from experience managing funding, commissioning and large contracts as well as service delivery it’s very similar.

poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 10:46

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 10:31

It is in the first sentence of my OP babe

'AIBU to want politicians to be highly academically successful And have experience in running a business?'

Now I am not sure where you got confused, but here we are.

Any confusion is understandable. You’re pro business and both in favour of and against Oxford, in different posts.

Yet the only politician you mention by name is Bill Clinton. Zero business experience. Oxford, and before that the Foreign Service College at Georgetown and Yale Law. Difficult to devise a more strictly government/political background than that.

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 10:48

pinkstinks · 02/05/2026 10:44

Would you count running a charity as running a business? That might widen the pool and from experience managing funding, commissioning and large contracts as well as service delivery it’s very similar.

Possibly? Tbh I don't know enough about running a charity / how to run a charity to say. From what you've said it might be a good idea.

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Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 10:50

poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 10:46

Any confusion is understandable. You’re pro business and both in favour of and against Oxford, in different posts.

Yet the only politician you mention by name is Bill Clinton. Zero business experience. Oxford, and before that the Foreign Service College at Georgetown and Yale Law. Difficult to devise a more strictly government/political background than that.

He was brought up by 2 very strong women - perhaps that saved him

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poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 11:02

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 01/05/2026 14:41

@CatsandjkrI agree with you. Politicians do very little before being politicians. Starmer did but became a civil servant. I really think we need better business acumen and many MPs are just mouthpieces for poorly informed constituents. They will not tackle the big questions or long term issues - I think John Major will say this today at 3 on radio 5. Politics is in danger of being a side show that never changes anything. If MPs just see the role as campaigning for constituents, they have no true grasp on what large scale changes need to be made., let alone make them. They just look after their votes. They should work for the good of the whole country and that includes business and employment. Reeves does not have a clue.

John Major’s interview on Newsnight was brilliant. He is an excellent former PM.

He made the point that growing up in a Labour dominated area he never doubted the commitments and loyalties of his councillors and MPs to (all of) their constituents. He feels that nowadays Labour is beholden primarily to one set of interest groups and the Conservatives to another, each as bad as the other.

He wants more real people - not just business people but teachers and scientists and engineers and ex military and tradespeople - in Parliament. On the surface it sounds similar to what OP is saying, but much more inclusive.

I think Westminster could also use a few more people who have transitioned from life on benefits to doing something economically and socially productive.

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 11:13

poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 11:02

John Major’s interview on Newsnight was brilliant. He is an excellent former PM.

He made the point that growing up in a Labour dominated area he never doubted the commitments and loyalties of his councillors and MPs to (all of) their constituents. He feels that nowadays Labour is beholden primarily to one set of interest groups and the Conservatives to another, each as bad as the other.

He wants more real people - not just business people but teachers and scientists and engineers and ex military and tradespeople - in Parliament. On the surface it sounds similar to what OP is saying, but much more inclusive.

I think Westminster could also use a few more people who have transitioned from life on benefits to doing something economically and socially productive.

Actually I saw that interview and was impressed by JM. I thought did he have that impact as PM? I was a bit too young to know much then, apart from how much my parents didn't like MT.

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Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 11:15

PS. Scientists and Engineers that I know (I know many), have zero interest in being in politics. For obvious reasons.

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poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 11:19

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 11:13

Actually I saw that interview and was impressed by JM. I thought did he have that impact as PM? I was a bit too young to know much then, apart from how much my parents didn't like MT.

I was not in the UK but also thought MT a disaster, so I would not have voted for JM either.

poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 11:21

We do have medics in Parliament. Has one ever been Health Secretary?

HughManity · 02/05/2026 11:23

Stand for parliament then, @Catsandjkr .

Badbadbunny · 02/05/2026 11:25

pinkstinks · 02/05/2026 10:44

Would you count running a charity as running a business? That might widen the pool and from experience managing funding, commissioning and large contracts as well as service delivery it’s very similar.

But it's still not entreprenneurial. It's business management, just like Starmer running a legal firm or a typical GP running a practice. There's a massive difference between actually being imaginative and sniffing out new opportunities, creating new products/services, seeking out new markets, etc etc compared with administering/managing an established organisation.

MoFadaCromulent · 02/05/2026 11:27

poetryandwine · 02/05/2026 10:46

Any confusion is understandable. You’re pro business and both in favour of and against Oxford, in different posts.

Yet the only politician you mention by name is Bill Clinton. Zero business experience. Oxford, and before that the Foreign Service College at Georgetown and Yale Law. Difficult to devise a more strictly government/political background than that.

Bingo

HughManity · 02/05/2026 11:37

What is your academic and business background, @Catsandjkr ?

pinkstinks · 02/05/2026 14:59

Badbadbunny · 02/05/2026 11:25

But it's still not entreprenneurial. It's business management, just like Starmer running a legal firm or a typical GP running a practice. There's a massive difference between actually being imaginative and sniffing out new opportunities, creating new products/services, seeking out new markets, etc etc compared with administering/managing an established organisation.

Haha I can tell you we do all of the things as a small charity desperately trying to survive - definitely more so than a big national that has teams to do all of those things

BIossomtoes · 02/05/2026 16:26

Badbadbunny · 02/05/2026 11:25

But it's still not entreprenneurial. It's business management, just like Starmer running a legal firm or a typical GP running a practice. There's a massive difference between actually being imaginative and sniffing out new opportunities, creating new products/services, seeking out new markets, etc etc compared with administering/managing an established organisation.

It can be highly entrepreneurial. Many charities are contracted to provide services. That means horizon scanning, tender writing, contract negotiation. New business opportunities are the lifeblood of some charities.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 02/05/2026 19:25

Starmer was DPP. A civil servant! Before that was joint head of chambers but that’s not the same as starting a business from scratch and barristers are self employed.

TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 19:41

We still haven't been given example except for Bill Clinton who doesn't meet OP's requirements Confused

Pedallleur · 02/05/2026 20:16

Trumps a businessman. The greatest deal maker ever apparently. Doesn't seem that great at the moment. Richard Tice another one and the guy who bunged Farage 5 million for home security. Are those the people we want?

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 21:34

TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 19:41

We still haven't been given example except for Bill Clinton who doesn't meet OP's requirements Confused

You're correct. And that might tell a story. Make the story what you like.

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Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 21:39

Pedallleur · 02/05/2026 20:16

Trumps a businessman. The greatest deal maker ever apparently. Doesn't seem that great at the moment. Richard Tice another one and the guy who bunged Farage 5 million for home security. Are those the people we want?

Some people are obsessed with Trump and Farage / Reform, it's most peculiar. I never talk about them, they hold no interest for me - but the left, particularly go on and on about them.

I'd never call Trump a person who knows much about business, he doesn't come across as academic... allegedly he bought a degree but I couldn't comment on that.. Reform people I don't know about them at at all tbh, business wise. Academia wise the same. But I do know that they are pretty dangerous if they were to get into power - so I do wish the labour party would stop gifting them supporters.

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TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 21:40

There is no story, just hot air

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 21:41

TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 21:40

There is no story, just hot air

😂And there we have it.

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TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 21:44

Coming up with at leat one proper example would have been the start of a story

Alas

Catsandjkr · 02/05/2026 21:50

TopPocketFind · 02/05/2026 21:44

Coming up with at leat one proper example would have been the start of a story

Alas

Fascinating that you refuse to see the elephant in the room. Still no surprise there..

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