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To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Helhigh · Yesterday 07:07

Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

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BIossomtoes · Yesterday 10:27

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 10:26

Herself
And its claimed that she said it in private meetings not to the press

With no proof. Claims don’t indicate fact.

Denim4ever · Yesterday 10:28

Re grammar schools and pregnant teenagers. There certainly were still some young women who became pregnant whist teens at grammar schools. Pearson is a few years older than I am. Our school went comp as I arrived and the older years were still grammar stream. All sorts of kids in the mix and definitely some girls who fitted the stereotype she's applying.

rainingsnoring · Yesterday 10:28

thepariscrimefiles · Yesterday 10:24

So Angela Rayner was a victim of bullies and not a bully herself which makes Allison Pearson's article even more disgusting. She couldn't even be bothered to do a tiny bit of research but just wrote that bile-soaked character assassination based on no evidence at all. She is a disgrace but obviously Telegraph readers and half of Mumsnet will lap this up.

Research?! That's not really a thing amongst those who write in the Telegraph is it?
Okay, there are a few honourable exceptions but, as a general rule.

thepariscrimefiles · Yesterday 10:32

Zebedee999 · Yesterday 09:17

Not when the only reason you are DPM is because you tick so many pc boxes and not through merit. You can't seriously believe AR got to be DPM through merit? Same with Lammy.
Most senior politicians are there through merit but some stand out like sore thumbs.

Why does David Lammy stick out like a sore thumb? Because he is black and from a working class family?

According to Wikipedia:

Lammy studied at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, graduating with a 2:1 in law. He was called to the bar of England and Wales in 1994 at Lincoln's Inn. He went on to study at Harvard University, where he became the first black Briton to attend Harvard Law School; he studied for a Master of Laws degree and graduated in 1997.

His educational and post-University achievements seem pretty good to me so why do you think that he hasn't gained his position through merit?

You seem to be quite racist and a raging snob.

ScholesPanda · Yesterday 10:33

Allison Pearson is a nasty stereotype. Her employment depends on her churning out this bile and always has done.

Helhigh · Yesterday 10:37

rainingsnoring · Yesterday 10:26

This. Pearson is plain nasty. This sounds typical or her articles. There are others who write in The Telegraph who are the same but she is one of the worst. I guess this is what a large and nasty chunk of their audience like to read which is sad.

The comments under it are a cesspit. Full of I was thinking of cancelling my subscription because we hadn’t had a nasty character assassination in a while, thank you for this gem Allison.

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MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 10:40

Helhigh · Yesterday 10:37

The comments under it are a cesspit. Full of I was thinking of cancelling my subscription because we hadn’t had a nasty character assassination in a while, thank you for this gem Allison.

I stopped reading the Telegraph years ago. What finished me off was a personal attack on a female MP who brought forward a private bill on Page 3 topless models. The 'article' was all about the MPs anatomy, etc, you can imagine.

CurlewKate · Yesterday 10:42

Of course there are disruptive children in schools. However, there is absolutely no evidence that AR was one. And to call them “Angelas” is appalling in so many ways. An “Angela” is surely a woman from a seriously disadvantaged background who worked her socks off to better herself, cared for her children (including one with special needs) and became an MP and the deputy leader of her party. Quite the role model, I’d say.

Clafoutie · Yesterday 10:45

WildGarden · Yesterday 10:20

If you look at past threads of some of the Anti-Angela crew on here they aren't averse to a bit of racism and disappointment with women themselves. Quite the Trump fan club too.

Birds of a feather.

People post hateful stuff all over social media, including this site, all the time, but it used to be that legacy media held itself to a higher standard.

LetsBeWellBehaved · Yesterday 10:54

Her mocking a pregnant then-16 year old is actually gross. I see it on here as well and it gives me secondhand embarrassment.

How is a grown woman slamdunking on vulnerable girls? She has no idea the circumstances that led to any underage girl becoming pregnant and subsequently continuing with the pregnancy.

You can’t take these things too seriously though. There will always be stupid and nasty people around.

BillieWiper · Yesterday 10:55

So she's pretending she went to school with someone she doesn't like and has probably never met. And has concocted a completely made up stereotype misogynistic classist personality and backstory for her?!

Pathetic.

rainingsnoring · Yesterday 10:59

Helhigh · Yesterday 10:37

The comments under it are a cesspit. Full of I was thinking of cancelling my subscription because we hadn’t had a nasty character assassination in a while, thank you for this gem Allison.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Unfortunately, this is who most of the DT audience are.

PhaedraTwo · Yesterday 11:01

CurlewKate · Yesterday 10:42

Of course there are disruptive children in schools. However, there is absolutely no evidence that AR was one. And to call them “Angelas” is appalling in so many ways. An “Angela” is surely a woman from a seriously disadvantaged background who worked her socks off to better herself, cared for her children (including one with special needs) and became an MP and the deputy leader of her party. Quite the role model, I’d say.

Quite a grifter now though, what with her freebie stays in luxury NY apartments, freebie clothes, oh and not paying her tax.

Glowingup · Yesterday 11:02

Yeah there were numerous girls like that at my school and it was great in sixth form when they’d all left. The atmosphere was so different. But I’m not sure it fits Angela Rayner because she actually did go for job opportunities and did exceptionally well for herself. None of the girls at my school did.

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 11:05

Clafoutie · Yesterday 10:45

People post hateful stuff all over social media, including this site, all the time, but it used to be that legacy media held itself to a higher standard.

The Telegraph is underpressure from GBNews to come up with the most rage bait worthy stuff that used to be left to the Daily Mail to reguritate.
It will only get worse.

Bonmot57 · Yesterday 11:41

I read the article, which seems full of bitter stereotypes.

I don't share Rayner's politics, which are quite opposite to mine. Like Rayner, I went to a bog standard comp (bottom 1% in the GCSE league tables), left with poor results but dusted myself off, resat the exams and worked my way up into a successful professional career.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the people the author describes as 'Angelas'- nasty, either dim or clever but misanthropic bullies keen to drag everyone down. Other than a little notoriety- they pop up in the local paper having made Court appearances for petty crime- they amounted to nothing.

Angela Rayner is not one of Allison Pearson's Angelas!

Ihatethistimeline · Yesterday 11:52

Our disgusting media is the reason we miss out on highly talented people choosing to go into politics. Who wants to become a MP and have this bile directed at them and their families? Our media are harming our country. It needs tougher regulation.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Yesterday 12:21

Ihatethistimeline · Yesterday 11:52

Our disgusting media is the reason we miss out on highly talented people choosing to go into politics. Who wants to become a MP and have this bile directed at them and their families? Our media are harming our country. It needs tougher regulation.

Regulation by whom though? Certainly not the government (as that’s a slippery slope).

And the problem with the current system of course is that it doesn’t actually prevent things being published or information being obtained illegally.

And any laws around not being able to publish x, y and z leave the country open to a government tightening those laws to include things they don’t want reported.

PrincessofWells · Yesterday 12:45

LetsBeWellBehaved · Yesterday 10:54

Her mocking a pregnant then-16 year old is actually gross. I see it on here as well and it gives me secondhand embarrassment.

How is a grown woman slamdunking on vulnerable girls? She has no idea the circumstances that led to any underage girl becoming pregnant and subsequently continuing with the pregnancy.

You can’t take these things too seriously though. There will always be stupid and nasty people around.

I disagree. I think we should take this type of misogynist attack very seriously, because irrespective of your politics its gutter journalism at its worst. Any attack on the personal circumstances of our politicians is an attack on democracy itself which is at the very core of our country.

I'm going to make a formal complaint. Who is with me?

RaininSummer · Yesterday 12:47

No idea if Angela was like that but these people do exist and do disrupt others education. Was a mean spirited piece though as it targeted Rayner. No fan of her myself though.

pointythings · Yesterday 12:48

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Yesterday 12:21

Regulation by whom though? Certainly not the government (as that’s a slippery slope).

And the problem with the current system of course is that it doesn’t actually prevent things being published or information being obtained illegally.

And any laws around not being able to publish x, y and z leave the country open to a government tightening those laws to include things they don’t want reported.

Weirdly, I agree with you. Because the problem isn't the pressure writing toxic drivel like this, it's the demand for toxic drivel from raging snobs and class obsessed knobs. The UK would be a much better place if its people finally got over their obsession with class and style over substance.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Yesterday 12:59

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 09:39

When AR made her comments about making bojo uncomfortable by showing off "her growler" whilst sitting opposite him in the house of commens and Lammy claimed that men can grow a cervix by taking hormones and called women who want actual single sex spaces "rights hoarding dinosaurs" its not misogynistic, racist or classist to say neither of them got their positions by merit and are not fit to be MPs let alone DMP, its a sad fact and evidence of the lack of standards in politics these days

So you are using fabricated misogynistic claims about something that Rayner is known to have never said in order to argue that she didn't get to where she is on merit? Tbh, that says more about you than it says about her.

As for David Lammy, yes, he has been a complete twat with regard to the trans issue, but that in itself is not evidence that he got to where he is through some sort of tickbox exercise.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 13:06

PrincessofWells · Yesterday 12:45

I disagree. I think we should take this type of misogynist attack very seriously, because irrespective of your politics its gutter journalism at its worst. Any attack on the personal circumstances of our politicians is an attack on democracy itself which is at the very core of our country.

I'm going to make a formal complaint. Who is with me?

I’ll join you - Press Complaints Commission? The Telegraph won’t care, it clearly meets with the approval of its regular readers.

FernandoSor · Yesterday 13:16

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Yesterday 08:18

And paid all her taxes - oh wait…

As opposed to the journalist Alison Pearson who - checks - was declared bankrupt in 2015 over non-payment of taxes to HMRC. Oh, and also successfully sued for non-delivery of a book that she had trousered a half mill advance on.

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 13:18

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 13:06

I’ll join you - Press Complaints Commission? The Telegraph won’t care, it clearly meets with the approval of its regular readers.

The problem here is that they wound up the PCC. Even more of a concern is that the so-called Independent Press Standards Organisation has its Editors' Code of Practice Committee chaired by Chris Evans. So, to come full circle, Allison Pearson's editor at the Telegraph is Chris Evans.