To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

The story about AR saying she was "showing off "her growler" " was made up bollocks by the Mail. Even Johnson condemned it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-61220125

Ten years ago – even five years ago – Allison Pearson would have been ripped apart on MN for this misogynistic, classist, hateful piece of trash. Now we have posters defending and even agreeing with her. And people claim this site is some kind of haven for "real women". Absolute bullshit.

Apart from anything, the article is just bad journalism. No journalist would have written something like that in the 90s - they would be ashamed to so obviously show off their pettiness. It's total nonsense based entirely on prejudice.

Well, seeing as you have brought it up. I was astonished that Kemi graced herself with becoming working-class. It seemed very out of touch to believe that because she did a student job at McDonalds she became working class.

She must think it is an admirable attribute?

You can always tell when the Tories are scared of someone.

Good to know.

Re Pearson and the chattering classes of TV. It was the Late Show I remember her being on. She was in the strand where they reviewed tv, theatre etc. that later became Late Review. It was not then her politics that showed through, she was mostly bossy but not in an intellectual talking head kind of way. Another notable panellist reviewer on the same show was 'novelist' Michael Gove. A lot less argumentative than Pearson. The others I remember were Tom Paulin (intellectual but grumpy), Germaine Greer (very argumentative and batty), Bonnie Greer (mostly knew what she was talking about) Nathalie Haynes (mostly knew what she was talking about).

Re Germaine Greer and Alison Pearson - both lived quite near me a decade or so ago and we frequented the same research facility. The former was usually complaining about service and craving the perks of fame the other charming but a little bit 'look at me'.

Whilst AR may have been lieing about doing it or not is irrelevant what is relevant is that she said it and when reported in the press she didn't complain to their regulators or sue either, so her denial and the fact that she didn't actually do it are also irrelevant.
Someone who thinks that is an appropriate thing to say when they are a sitting MP and deputy leader of the opposition is evidence that they are unfit for power

Yes, it is a stereotype and there were teenagers like this, but why attribute it to Angela just because of her age and make up an assumption filled, bilious article on her?!
It's absolutely disgusting and a character assassination for no reason at all.
Hate her politics or whatever, fair enough but this is just poisonous, pointless bullying.

It's always so sad when women write misogynist crap about other women. I rather admire Angela Raynor for becoming an MP after having a child at a very young age, and I think the article says a lot more about the author than it does about Angela Raynor . . .

It didn’t happen. Even Johnson said it didn’t happen.

Her ilk, meritocracy only ever being chucked around when it comes to women. I think a fair few on here fit that journalist's description far more than Rayner.

Whilst AR may have been lieing about doing it or not is irrelevant what is relevant is that she said it

The point, which has gone whizzing over your head, is that she didn't say it all. The whole thing was a fabrication.🙄

Are you saying she never claimed that she had done it or that she didn't do it?
As I don't believe that she did it but I do believe that she tried to big herself up by claiming to have done so and its the lie and thinking that it was an appropriate thing to claim that i judge her for (along with the tax fraud, abandonment of women's rights and politics)

Rayner revelled in that and used it to big herself up.

Are you saying she never claimed that she had done it or that she didn't do it?

Both. Johnson says in the clip above that whoever started that particular piece of nastiness should be punished.

How can this be considered journalism when there is no evidence or source presented to show that Angela Rayner fitted this stereotype? We could all just spout our various opinions in the press and be paid for it, if this is what now passes for journalism.

So true. Interesting Pearson went to grammar school but acts like she knows more about Angela’s “ilk” than we do. How did all these supposedly stupid vapid girls pass the 11+?

Since @Hoardasurass tied himself up in knots to prove a non point I've been trying online to find any evidence that Angela Rayner tried to trade off that comment and can't find any. Do you have any?

Yes, I agree. It is appalling that Allison Pearson gets paid for such hatred. When she was investigated for racial hatred, in her tweet, she claimed the right to freedom of expression. A race to the bottom then.

There isn't any because Rayner has always denied making the comment. The source of the claim that she did was 4 anonymous Tory MPs. Funny that they happend to be Tories, eh?

If you look at past threads of some of the Anti-Angela crew on here they aren't averse to a bit of racism and disappointment with women themselves. Quite the Trump fan club too.

Birds of a feather.

Yep.

So Angela Rayner was a victim of bullies and not a bully herself which makes Allison Pearson's article even more disgusting. She couldn't even be bothered to do a tiny bit of research but just wrote that bile-soaked character assassination based on no evidence at all. She is a disgrace but obviously Telegraph readers and half of Mumsnet will lap this up.

Herself
And its claimed that she said it in private meetings not to the press

This. Pearson is plain nasty. This sounds typical or her articles. There are others who write in The Telegraph who are the same but she is one of the worst. I guess this is what a large and nasty chunk of their audience like to read which is sad.