To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

Also the appetite for articles about reality tv ‘stars’, Katie Price etc is just adding to the inanity and pointlessness of 99% of legacy media.

When Brooklyn Beckham released his statement about his family, ITV news announced it as breaking news 🙈🙈🙈

Strange interpretation of her experience at school, maybe she is just looking for someone to blame for her perceived educational failures.

Allison Pearson is a horrendous person. She is also very stupid and, unfortunately, does not realise quite how stupid she is.

Sorry I posted before reading. That’s especially nasty even by Pearson’s standards.

Right!

This makes Pearson’s article even more risible. What a disgusting woman.

Just checking, is that your "proof" that she said it?

That will be typical of Telegraph readers though.

Pearson is just another version of Katie Hopkins.

I went to a sink school, like literally the lowest of the low in terms of academic success. Even we were streamed, especially for classes like maths and English, so no, the 'Angelas' didn't disrupt the ones who were there to knuckle down and work

I went to a shit school and we were streamed for maths, languages and science but not for English (other than for a few weeks at a time when studying certain texts). We were also in 'mixed ability' sets for all humanities (history, geography and RE), as well as technology, arts and PE so yes, I did have plenty of disruption, thanks, and your experience is not universal.

Are people being deliberately thick? There is no evidence that AR was like that. That is what makes this article disgusting.

AP can have whatever opinion she wants even if stereotyping or unpleasant. But when she is inventing a caricature and back history to humiliate and malign someone, that is simply an embarrassing and desperate lie, and deserves criticism from all!

I can’t stand AP. I think she’s pathetic. But if someone wrote an article, condemning AP for something she hadn’t done, I would be criticising the author in the same way. If I want to read fiction, I have plenty of better options!

I'd be interested if you could highlight the part of my personal experience that I claimed was universal? Thanks

Except her behaviour , repeatedly in Parliament andat rally's name calling, verbally abusive foul language gross lack of manners. Then there's the dodgy tax dealings.

I have no issue with criticising her for financial fraud and unprofessional behaviour at all. Call it out.
It’s the inventing of a story from her schooldays that makes me cringe.

Yes, I was the OP of that thread. I think Pearson is probably describing a valid behaviour problem for some white wc girls but it's out of order to assume Rayner was necessarily like that just because she was a teen mum.

Erm, how exactly is that different from many, many other politicians? Of all political parties, backgrounds, sex and parental status?

It’s not great, but definitely not unique to her.

Bit of evidence for this, please? Yes, she had issues with her tax situation-currently still under investigation. But she is definitely not alone in that!

Yes just imagine if someone write an essay claiming David Lammy was a gang member or something when he was younger just because he’s black and grew up in London. “We all knew a David”. Why is it acceptable to make up complete bullshit can’t believe this was even published

@Tontostitis verbally abusive and foul language? She called the Tories scum, then apologised. Is that what you mean? It was one incident.

name calling, verbally abusive foul language gross lack of manners

I would appreciate examples too @Tontostitis I know she called the Tories scum - and it is a matter of opinion how right she was on that - though she did apologise. The rest of your claims? Genuinely wondering what I have missed.

Yes and only apologised when made to. I'm pretty left of centre and that name calling shouty vileness is wrong no matter who does it.

It is isn't but as soon as you start on the 'what about' bandwagon it's a sign you can't actually defend your point

My point is that people seem to be holding her to higher standards in terms of expectation than other politicians, so a comparison is completely relevant.