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AIBU to warn against unwise MN advice that could harm you in divorce cases?

84 replies

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 15:37

I’m posting on AIBU because this is where the most recent wild suggestions were made. Please ladies be careful at some of the suggestions made here. I’ve seen some posters giving advice on another thread. Let’s not egg people on to destroy their own standing. I spend time working with women rebuilding themselves and have assisted/ am assisting several who are in the midst of their divorces as litigants in person. I’ve been to court some 30odd times in the last year. Many women don’t qualify for legal aid because they co-own their home but have no cash and can’t afford lawyers having been homemakers. And the first thing the man does is cut them off financially making it more difficult for them to even seek advice on how to obtain litigation loans or apply for LSPO. (Legal services payment order)
Here’s what I can tell you for free. The men’s lawyers typically find it easy to establish a case of irrationality against the women because of things they did whilst upset which no one had told them would damage their case. Pulling some examples from a recent trending thread let me show you some of these:

  • Changing the locks to exclude a badly behaved spouse /Locking a co-owner out of their home = Unlawful eviction / interference with right to occupy. Whilst this is frequently done in movies and around the country, it is the quickest way to show the judge you are controlling. (Caveat unless the man is a physical danger to you and/or the children but even in that case, lack of any police records of you having called the police in the past means the man can dismiss it. That’s why the first time anyone hits or threatens to hit you, or behaves aggressively or spits at you; call the police, this creates an external record which will be invaluable. If your spouse is causing you stress and anxiety (3+ bad nights of sleep, tell your GP, also creates a record. Your GP wont judge, they’ve seen it all)
  • Filming your drink hubby when he’s passed out/ incapacitated in a private home without consent = Misuse of private information / breach of privacy (the courts take a very dim view and won’t even allow whatever evidence you think this is)
  • Filming him beside vomit for evidence and using footage = Controlling or coercive behaviour (Serious Crime Act 2015) [funny enough the law is different if you have indoor cctv and it catches this- the latter is incidental, the former is intentional]
  • Seizing or withholding someone’s passport = Theft / controlling or coercive behaviour
  • Defacing or destroying someone’s passport or ticket = Criminal damage / theft
  • Going through your spouse’s stuff to find tickets or other such documents = breach of privacy, you can no longer introduce documents into legal proceedings if they are documents you found which your spouse had hidden. The court expects that if they were hidden, he has a reasonable right to expect privacy. Even if said documents show he has millions of £ stashed away.
  • I could go on.
Whilst these can feel good at the time to do, will have huge consequences in a divorce. Please do not do anything like this. If contemplating a divorce your best course of action is to be whiter than white, if you feel you might need video evidence, install indoor CCTV in your home and pay for 6 month footage back up plan and download as soon as anything happens. Ring is better, Tapo is okay too but some models are not great. Believe me the difference matters it in court; Document everything and take protective steps before you file anything. I am not saying people should go round filing for divorces but it’s deeply frustrating to see what rings are run round a woman who has been a trusting wife and mother because they are not legal savvy and don’t have representation. As above maybe the same happens to men too so I don’t want to generalise. I’m only speaking from the experiences I know.

I’m not posting this to attract comments. Just a psa from a woman to women/ or anyone who is genuinely not an abuser and is enduring a bad marriage and considering doing any of the above. Don’t.

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Ineffable23 · 26/04/2026 15:57

So what are women meant to do if their husband is hiding millions of pounds from them? If they aren't allowed to establish whether or not he is hiding millions of pounds because it would be a breach of his privacy?

I genuinely want to know the answer! Is it get a court order and hope he doesn't lie? Search for the stuff and then pretend you haven't and hope he disclosed it? But what about when he then doesn't disclose it?

RandomMess · 26/04/2026 15:58

You get a forensic accountant

mathanxiety · 26/04/2026 16:13

I'm surprised you have made no mention of the fact that no fault divorce is now the law in England and Wales, with a different no fault system in Scotland, and a hybrid system in NI (so finding fault is very useful there) with possible legislation upcoming in late 2026.

Usually when advice is posted to change the locks it is immediately shot down.

coolwind · 26/04/2026 16:15

Are you in the UK OP?

Blimms · 26/04/2026 16:19

That’s complete nonsense OP.

MikeRafone · 26/04/2026 16:37

Ive never seen these suggestions on mn until now on this post.

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:06

RandomMess · 26/04/2026 15:58

You get a forensic accountant

This! That’s the most straightforward one. ☝️

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Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:07

MikeRafone · 26/04/2026 16:37

Ive never seen these suggestions on mn until now on this post.

There’s a post by a new mum. That’s where all the above came from

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Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:07

coolwind · 26/04/2026 16:15

Are you in the UK OP?

Yes I am

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Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:08

Blimms · 26/04/2026 16:19

That’s complete nonsense OP.

I’m sure you can google it for yourself or ask any ai.

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Blimms · 26/04/2026 17:09

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:08

I’m sure you can google it for yourself or ask any ai.

I don’t need to do either to know you are giving really bad advice here.

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:09

Ineffable23 · 26/04/2026 15:57

So what are women meant to do if their husband is hiding millions of pounds from them? If they aren't allowed to establish whether or not he is hiding millions of pounds because it would be a breach of his privacy?

I genuinely want to know the answer! Is it get a court order and hope he doesn't lie? Search for the stuff and then pretend you haven't and hope he disclosed it? But what about when he then doesn't disclose it?

As @RandomMess said, a forensic accountant is the cleanest way to establish it.

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Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:13

mathanxiety · 26/04/2026 16:13

I'm surprised you have made no mention of the fact that no fault divorce is now the law in England and Wales, with a different no fault system in Scotland, and a hybrid system in NI (so finding fault is very useful there) with possible legislation upcoming in late 2026.

Usually when advice is posted to change the locks it is immediately shot down.

I was merely picking up on the numerous advice by understandably upset MNers which I know would result in legal regret. Not making a catalogue of the full extent of the law. Amicable divorces don’t end up in multiple hearings, just a sealing of a consent and parties never need to set foot in court. It’s the contentious ones I’m referring to and even with no fault divorces, parties still “run conduct” and running conduct requires the person to prove someone’s so unreasonable and that’s why they deserve less money. It’s in this unreasonable behaviour that all sorts gets dragged up.

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ApplebyArrows · 26/04/2026 17:13

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:07

There’s a post by a new mum. That’s where all the above came from

OK, maybe post on that thread then because it must be a weird outlier, I haven't seen any of it either.

Pitythefool · 26/04/2026 17:15

Can you link the thread op?

Blimms · 26/04/2026 17:17

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:13

I was merely picking up on the numerous advice by understandably upset MNers which I know would result in legal regret. Not making a catalogue of the full extent of the law. Amicable divorces don’t end up in multiple hearings, just a sealing of a consent and parties never need to set foot in court. It’s the contentious ones I’m referring to and even with no fault divorces, parties still “run conduct” and running conduct requires the person to prove someone’s so unreasonable and that’s why they deserve less money. It’s in this unreasonable behaviour that all sorts gets dragged up.

There is an extremely high legal threshold, and such arguments are notoriously difficult and rare to win.

Charliede1182 · 26/04/2026 17:20

RandomMess · 26/04/2026 15:58

You get a forensic accountant

With what money if you are a SAHM with no income or assets?

WhatAMarvelousTune · 26/04/2026 17:21

I’m surprised by your last point. Does that apply to things hidden in the joint home? Do you have a reasonable expectation of privacy if things are in a drawer in the house you share and jointly own?

RhaenysRocks · 26/04/2026 17:21

Surprised at those saying they've never seen these issues. Almost every thread about a marriage in crisis says 'change the locks', 'go hunting for documents' 'get proof of pensions, savings and salary.' Its very very common.

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 26/04/2026 17:22

Honestly if I found out he’d been stashing millions and was planning to leave me I’d be in crown court, not family court 😭. I really admire women who can keep their cool though.

RightOnTheEdge · 26/04/2026 17:24

Like Rhaenys I'm surprised that posters haven't seen this kind of advice. I see it all the time.

A lot of these have been suggested on the AIBU to be furious with my husband? thread.
It's in trending now.

Efacsen · 26/04/2026 17:26

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:07

There’s a post by a new mum. That’s where all the above came from

So a 'thread about a thread'?

MNHQ don't like TAATs

MoFadaCromulent · 26/04/2026 17:28

Change the locks used to be a common one around here.

Fucking awful advice that's only going to aggravate matters

Itsmetheflamingo · 26/04/2026 17:29

The one that makes me 😭 is “collect all the documentation and take it to a safe place” wtf? It’s not 1992 where we are all getting paper payslips plus anything you take won’t be useable. Plus you can’t steal someone’s paperwork or their children’s passports 🙄

Seven7s · 26/04/2026 17:30

Pitythefool · 26/04/2026 17:15

Can you link the thread op?

I don’t know the etiquette on posting someone else’s thread so avoided doing so initially. But in answer to @ApplebyArrows several people were suggesting these kinds of things and for a one off I wouldn’t have thought it was worth making a post on . But after multiple people agreeing with such, I realised they mean well but it’s all stuff that would backfire and be fodder against one in a divorce. And no I made the post because I know many women have told me they regret similar actions and wish someone had told them. I wanted to notify people that whilst it seems great on telly, it’s not so in court. Any lawyer/google/ai will tell you. Except people don’t search for consequences in the heat of the moment. Then fast forward down several months in front of a judge and they are flustered trying to say they are not the monster they are being painted. Yes running conduct requires a high threshold but the ones I’ve seen pretty much always attempt it anyway and the hurt it causes is real. I’ve seen women crumble if you’ve ever witnessed the viciousness of a submission about a partner in an acrimonious divorce you’ll soon see a lot of it is psychological warfare and trying to mudsling regarding custody which in turn determines child maintenance payments. To the original poster of this thread below I sincerely apologise if it’s rude to share people’s threads on another. I’m not on MN that much and don’t mean any harm. www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5521757-to-be-furious-with-dh-for-this

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