Could Zack Polanski be any more of an obnoxious twat?

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Just seen him saying this:

'I am concerned about the rise in antisemitism and we know Jewish communities are saying they feel unsafe. There is a conversation to be had over whether it's a perception that they feel unsafe or whether they are actually unsafe.'

WTAF? Can you imagine if a politician said that to Muslims after a series of absolutely awful targeted attacks where people have died?

^ this

it couldn’t not be clearer

And don’t vote Labour or Tory if you care about women’s rights. So no party is worthy to run the country really.

I'm not putting this here to bait anyone, nor am I remotely interested in having any sort of debate - because a few of you have created an echo chamber here and there is zero point.

I just need to say this. There are some comments on here which I feel are unacceptable and not reflective of how many people feel - although I expect that a lot of people would not want to wade in to say anything for fear of being shouted down or accused of something that they are not doing.

• It is NOT a blood libel to suggest there is a genocide in Gaza, Lebanon or anywhere else that is being attacked by the Israeli government.
• It is okay to be Jewish and Anti-Zionist. It is just as valid for Jewish people (whether that is defined by their ethnicity, religion or both) to hold their own views. That does NOT make them "self-hating", it means that they have a differing opinion to some of the people shouting loudly on here. It is not okay to police other people's values or opinions. They are not less of a Jew that you are (I mean you if you are reading this and shaking your head in disagreement!)
• This attempted hierarchy of racism is totally unacceptable. Again, nobody should be making sweeping statements that one group is more persecuted that another group. That is not only nonsensical but also extremely upsetting and triggering for people to read. A man has just been jailed for life for following and brutally raping a woman based on her skin colour and because he thought she was a Muslim.

If the same people insist on dragging what they believe to be antisemitism onto AIBU, please be ready to accept that the idea of it is that you are inviting opinions - and that it is fine to disagree. Nobody should be made to feel that they can't because they might be piled on.

Some of you can do a lot better, in my opinion.

There is no hierarchy of racism, I agree absolutely 100% .
Which is why it is wrong to dismiss, deny or minimise antisemitism.

Which nobody has done in any of the threads that go around in circles!

I do care about women’s rights being a woman myself

but I am not feeling the treat of the trans issue as some are and it’s not my most concerning issue, it’s way down the list

so I shall continue to vote Labour

That’s nice dear.

This is specifically about Polanski, the Greens and antisemitism. Some posters are bringing other minority groups into the discussion, not to develop and explain, but quite the opposite.
I think it's entirely possible to be very concerned about both Reform and the Greens and how they are exploiting racism.

its a difference of opinion on views about the trans issue

Ok. That’s fine. What part of “that’s nice dear” says it not?

go away with your patronising bullshit and start another thread about the trans issues

this is a thread about prejudice against Jewish people and how antisemitism has become mainstream

Same here, will never vote green again. And they voted with labour in Sheffield to build on greenbelt, not very green of them.

Actually it isn't, so stop being disingenuous. The OP started this thread to complain about ZP and as usual, complained about Muslims, because they apparently have things so much better.

As these ridiculous conversations always do, the topic has moved all over the place. You aren't the OP are you? So no need to try dictating the parameters of the thread.

What?! What land was that, do you have a link?

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Everyone is arguing about it so obviously not an echo chamber.

It's gone well past that point and you know that.

In one of their posts, the OP said: "Show me where Nigel Farage has called for violence against British Muslims?"

I have many examples of that and I would point towards the Brexit campaign where he stood in front of a mocked up Nazi propaganda poster, showing middle eastern refugees walking in a large group, emblazoned with the words BREAKING POINT. It had nothing to do with the EU but it worked. People wouldn't sit next to people like me on the bus. I was racially abused in a petrol station for the crime of being a brown woman.

In the lead up to the Southport riots, Reform and their supporters encouraged people to hate us all over again - and people were inciting violence including setting fire to hotels with Muslim "illegal" migrants in them. It's all sickening and hearing this disingenuous crap from the Zionist Lobby is getting all a bit much now to be honest. These threads are always set up by someone who hates Muslims - and it's not even subtle.

As I said, there are people on here who can do a lot better. If you think that doesn't apply to you then you have nothing to worry about I suppose.

"could do a lot better"?

I really don't know what you mean by that. It's not a test. It's a discussion. There's really no need to quote parts of the thread to me, I have read it, thank you.

Don't get personal.

There has been very little debate - sadly because new ways of suggesting someone is being antisemitic are being created with every passing moment.

I'm quoting you because I'm replying to various people, is that ok? Yes it's a discussion and I don't believe I have been personal towards you at all. I'm going to dip out now anyway, you'll be pleased to know. I just wanted to say my piece as I have no issue with speaking up when I see an issue, whereas others might not want to.

Sorry - edited post as thought I was on the other thread about the Green party and antisemitism where I am the OP.

The Green Party of old has been hijacked. It is no longer the Green Party that it used to be.
And as for Zack P. He will be dumped by those around him as soon as they deem he has done enough and they can get along without him. Ditto the white lady who won the by election recently.

I really don't understand "could do better" or that you speak up when you see an issue?
Surely that's exactly what people are doing. They see an issue. They speak up.
It's a discussion.
Anyway. Toodle pip.

He’s a twat. It’s like a living re-enactment of Faust!

Here you go, ScarlettOYara: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y64re59elo

FWIW Douglas Johnson, the Green's leader, is also chair of the housing committee, and while we can't know if this applies here, long experience teaches there may have been something in it for him if he saw the proposals through

Admittedly it's a while ago now, but this is how our own local housing chair ended up in jail ...

Thank you for the link!