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Does this sound ok? School run…

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Mrsupanddown · Today 11:47

I tried to get all the kids in to one school which is 5 minutes from us but the appeal was rejected. So I have left oldest DS at the school and DD is joining him. Youngest DS is at the school nearest to home.

I plan to drop DS (9) at school with DD (8) at 8:35. There school gates don’t open until 8:40.

So they will queue up outside with the other kids and parents. DS will wait until DD goes into her class then he will go to his.

I will be able to drop youngest off then in time for his gates opening at 8:45.

Does this sound ok and safe enough?

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Mummytobe1994 · Today 14:29

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · Today 14:25

No idea whether the school will allow it, but it's bonkers that so many people don't think an 8 and 9y.o. shouldn't be unsupervised even just outside school, for 5 minutes, with many other pupils and parents around.

It needs to become normal again for 8, 9, 10 year olds to walk/cycle to school on their own. I appreciate that wouldn't be practical for some journeys and some children, but it should be the default.

No, I wouldn’t want my 8yr old walking to school alone I’m sorry that shouldn’t be the norm!

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 14:30

I think it’s fine, there is always children who are natural early birds. They can walk in with the others when the gate opens.

OneTimeThingToday · Today 14:35

Im glad my childten went to a relatively sabe school who did Road Safety sessions with the older children (From Summer term Yr4) for the soecific purpose if encouraging independent travel from Yr5 (or from a drop off point for those in the further reaches of Catchment). They all played out from a similar age.

littlemousebigcheese · Today 14:35

@StandingDeskDisco @Stressedoutmummyof3 the school has two members of staff on the gates, morning and afternoon to welcome children and chat to any parents. Children in year 5 and above are allowed to be unaccompanied but younger needs a parent or caregiver to be present until they are through the gates into school! It’s very common and same rules with three local primaries so I just assumed it was same everywhere?!

LemonTyger · Today 14:37

My kids school allows them to walk home alone from year 3, so I think this is fine.

Jllllllll · Today 14:37

I am a teacher and we would not allow this. Can you speak to a particular parent who is there every day and ask them if your children can stand with them until they go in? It’s not safe to leave children that age with no adult supervision. It would probably be fine until it’s not and something happens. Or is there a breakfasts club?

changedusernameforthis1 · Today 14:42

I wouldn't, but that could be my own childhood talking. Things can go wrong unexpectedly.

Our DC are at different schools because one needs a SEN school, and they start at the same time with a 10 minute driving distance between them.
One of them is always late - however it doesn't affect their attendance record as we spoke to the school beforehand.

Sassylovesbooks · Today 14:44

My son's Junior school had a main gate, that the caretaker opened at 7.30 am, to allow teaching staff etc onto the school grounds. The gate going into where the classrooms were was opened at 8.35 am, but this gate is within the school grounds. It very much depends if you're leaving your children outside an unlocked gate, that isn't on school grounds? Or if it's a similar set up to my son's school?

My son's Junior school allowed children to walk to/from school from Year 5 onwards. However, Year 3 and 4 were expected to have a parent present during drop off/pick up.

Only you know the set up of your children's school, we don't. I would look at the schools policy, and also if they allow an older sibling within the school to 'drop off' a younger sibling at the school.

BlueOrangeDreams · Today 14:47

I think it's fine as long as they are sensible children.
I walked to school with a friend aged about 8.

Carrotleek · Today 14:47

Coffeeandbooks88 · Today 13:59

Depends on your area though. I wouldn't want my blond, tall daughter of eight to walk alone by herself in my area. Definitely would be a target in the area we live in. Not to mention she often forgets to check the road when crossing.

I agree, it varies. I’m in Ireland but primary school children (which is to age 12 or 13 here) at our local school must be collected by an adult at the gate. It’s a rural area and the roads near the school aren’t safe for walking.
No doubt the rules are different in other schools.

Bikergran · Today 14:51

littlemousebigcheese · Today 11:48

We wouldn’t be allowed to do that at our school; parents or someone over 18 has to be there to walk them through the gates. Can you arrange with another parent to take your two in?

FFS, what is wrong with schools these days? All my kids were travelling independently to and from school by bus at 7/8 years old.

Taxeffectively · Today 14:59

A sibling didn’t get a place?

asdbaybeeee · Today 14:59

Would it be an option to stay with dc until gates open at 8.40 then go to younger child’s school for 8.50?

Miyagi99 · Today 15:04

Ihaveaskedyouthrice · Today 13:55

It's baffling to me that people would say that the school wouldn't allow this. My 9 and 10 year old often walk to and from school alone ( sometimes I go with them, sometimes not), how is it anything to do with the school? (I'm in Ireland rather than the UK so maybe things are very different 🤷)

I’m in the UK and they allow it here in a lot of schools, but you usually need to let the school know in writing if they are under 10.

Miyagi99 · Today 15:06

OneTimeThingToday · Today 12:44

How do schools actually prevent children arriving alone?

They can’t but if you want them to leave alone too they can keep them in unless they have written permission.

Withthe2Ls · Today 15:06

My kids aren’t school age yet but I was walking to and from school (10m walk) myself from primary 3/ 7 years old? Do we not do that anymore? Maybe that’s a bit much these days but not even leaving 8/9 year old siblings together for 5 minutes for the gates opening really? If the school doesn’t allow it it’s different though

Monty36 · Today 15:06

Bikergran · Today 14:51

FFS, what is wrong with schools these days? All my kids were travelling independently to and from school by bus at 7/8 years old.

Indeed. Two buses to school.
I suspect the school are self preserving against litigation. Accidents, horrible people etc.

Taxeffectively · Today 15:09

Bikergran · Today 14:51

FFS, what is wrong with schools these days? All my kids were travelling independently to and from school by bus at 7/8 years old.

When were your kids 7/8 old? @Bikergran ? This was a school bus or public transport?

Miyagi99 · Today 15:19

Taxeffectively · Today 15:09

When were your kids 7/8 old? @Bikergran ? This was a school bus or public transport?

Edited

Yes, some children live in villages without local primary schools so have to travel. Not all parents drive or can take their kids to school.

Taxeffectively · Today 15:25

Miyagi99 · Today 15:19

Yes, some children live in villages without local primary schools so have to travel. Not all parents drive or can take their kids to school.

I didn’t ask you? 😕

ImFineItsAllFine · Today 15:33

Jllllllll · Today 14:37

I am a teacher and we would not allow this. Can you speak to a particular parent who is there every day and ask them if your children can stand with them until they go in? It’s not safe to leave children that age with no adult supervision. It would probably be fine until it’s not and something happens. Or is there a breakfasts club?

This what parents at my DC school do, they just get a classmate's parent to keep a bit of an eye until the kids are through the gate.

Bikergran · Today 15:39

Taxeffectively · Today 15:09

When were your kids 7/8 old? @Bikergran ? This was a school bus or public transport?

Edited

Public transport, then crossing at least one main road in rush hour to get to and from school. 1980s and late 1990s. Really don't understand this babying of children when they should be old enough to make simple journeys alone. Poor kids are so obsessively monitored nowadays.

MatronPomfrey · Today 15:39

Best to speak to each school abut they can support you. I’m of the age when you walked to school from age 5 but the roads were much quieter. It’s ridiculous that they can’t get into the same school. I know you’ve been through the appeal process but I’d raise this with your local councillors and MP.

Taxeffectively · Today 15:40

Bikergran · Today 15:39

Public transport, then crossing at least one main road in rush hour to get to and from school. 1980s and late 1990s. Really don't understand this babying of children when they should be old enough to make simple journeys alone. Poor kids are so obsessively monitored nowadays.

Each to their own, but 7 years old - no way would I have wanted this for my DC even if it had been totally cool with the school.

it was 1988 when I was 7 and not a cats chance in hell my parents would have been chilled about that kind of independent travel

Howdidlifegetsobusy · Today 15:41

from year 5 onwards you can give consent for children to walk to and from school (well could at my sons school).

does the school not have sibling proirity in admissions? Can you go onto a waitlist for a place too (tends to be movement right up to September start dates).

would your older children be able to be schools on sibling preference places too?

i would talk to the school. If they run a breakfast club, that might be your option. How pick up going to work too?

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