To wonder if there will be any fall out from skinny jabs?

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Everyone I know is now suddenly very slim. Okay, im exaggerating slightly, but genuinely, most of my friends who were previously overweight are all now slim thanks to skinny jabs. I am delighted for them! It seems unbelievable to think that a jab can cure this obesity crisis, but I am so pleased my friends and a couple of family members are able to live a healthier life thanks to this.

My only slight concern is, is this something that is going to be too good to be true? Do you think there will be any long term repercussions, or are we right to just celebrate this medication as a cure for something that so many have been battling for so long?

There aren’t any in the UK, if you mean in the US they have a very different legal system and healthcare model. What happens there with speculative class action law suits is irrelevant to the UK.

I had this convo with DH last night, we were wondering whether these GLP-1s will become like statins. I think (1) if you’re on them for life (2) they work for you (3) they have no harmful side effects, they may well be used like statins. What a tremendous thing! If one of those things doesn’t happen, though, I guess not. So I don’t think these drugs will “eradicate” obesity, but I think they could go a long way towards doing so on a population level.

My greater worry is how the fast/processed food industry will respond. They’re in direct competition with the pharma companies selling these drugs, and people - usually people who are time and/or financially poor - are the battlefield. I fear the tactics the food companies will use.

JFC the stupidity and gullibility from some people is astonishing. Hate to break it to you but animal testing happens on all new medications and has done for decades. By all means object to this kind of animal testing but have a think about why the Daily Mail used WLI as the click bait.

Juvenile.

Why are people on weight loss drugs so defensive when anyone has questions or concerns about the drugs? So much anger towards the OP for no reason.

For me the biggest concern is how it it totally skewing the body image debate for women yet again! I saw an advert today saying ‘want to lose weight?’ And showing an average size woman, who probably wouldn’t even be allowed to get the drug! I feel very much we’re back in the height of ‘nothing tastes as good as skinny feels’ era! It’s really sad. Wanting to lose weight because you’re obese is one thing. Not feeling worthy if you’re above a size 8 is another thing! Very dangerous messaging!

If some people put all the weight back on, like every diet in history, then they can lose it again can't they? Yes, sustained change requires more than medication, we all know this and so some people may be on WLI for a very long time/life, that's their choice to make.

The mediation has been extensively tested and used for years, I'm sure there will be more side effects become known due to the popularity but I doubt there will be anything significant that hasn't already been documented due to how long it's been used for.

Obesity is a killer, it was a crisis as 'eatbless, move morr' wasn't working for a lot of people and shame cycles kept people depressed and fat; People are doing something about it, proactively looking after their health, surely that's a good thing? Should this go along side eating healthily, exercising and getting into good habits, of course!

I'm not sure why people have to start/come onto these threads and judge others choices when they are being supported by GPs and made informed choices for their health.

@canklesmctacotits I agree with your post but: 'I fear the tactics the food companies will use'
Can they make food any more addictive?!

Why are people who aren’t on them so obsessed with them? I’d love to know if they have as many opinions of all the other drugs on the market…

Because the vast majority of people posting about their concern for other women are just posting to stir up shite. Even the thread title referring to ‘skinny jabs’ was goady.

I am aware of that. Using diabetic medication to lose a few pounds is not medically necessary. Just like testing cosmetics on animals.

Because these threads are happening so often, spouting information that’s wrong, subtly beating obese people down yet again. You’re stupid and lazy if you’re obese, you’re stupid and lazy if you choose to take WLIs, were told to eat less and move more, and honestly if that worked there wouldn’t be an obesity epidemic in the first place!

We can’t win, but we have to take these repeated threads graciously because the op is genuinely concerned? Fuck that. We can see right through it now.

It was promoted by the Tobacco industry. and they lobbied constantly. They weren't going to reveal the medical data.

Of course there will be repercussions and consequences at some stage - probably something we haven't even thought of yet - some kind of serious side-effect years down the line, class action for 'loose skin compensation', pressured selling, illegal selling, damage to mental health
It's a case of 'watch this space', basically.

I think we are going to see a significant rise in sarcopenia and osteoporosis in the coming years. While many users are proactive about their diet and the need for resistance training from the moment they start these drugs, far too many are simply reducing their portions of poor food choices and mistakenly believe they can wait until after they’ve lost the weight to start going to the gym.

@pdjafcwtaoa65i will genuinely answer this. I assume you are or were obese and now thanks to this drug you will lose weight. This is amazing and should be celebrated. However, these drugs have been utilised and abused by those who don’t need it (see celebs and influencers going from an average size to skeletal)! This heightens everyone’s sensitivities around body image. With all due respect, it’s not just morbidly obese women who are allowed to have body image issues. It is OK to think the use of GLP-1 has gone insane recently and for those not taking it, it’s ok to question health risks etc? Because if there aren’t any, why can’t we all just get a dose to help us shift a stone or two? I think we need to encourage healthy debate and not sure be rude to those people
asking questions.

I read only yesterday that research into one type of jab suggests osteoporosis is a side effect.

Im considering but im worried about side effects and long term.
Obviously it bloody amazing for diabetics to control their illness as side effects and complications are much worse than those of the medication.
I just dont know. It does almost seem too good to be true.

Some conditions are caused or worsened by being overweight though. There is a correlation between being overweight and having heart problems and high blood pressure.

After googling I think it might have been Heparin. Possibly!

No, I have never been obese in my life, nor indeed overweight, medically speaking. I just find it fascinating how obsessed people are with WLI, I think it’s a byproduct of the misogynistic society we live in and how obsessed we are with women’s weight, I don’t see men getting the level of scrutiny we are seeing women getting for these.

And actually, you talk about ‘losing a stone or 2’, that’s already happening, some prescribers have already started prescribing off label at 25+, and you can also legitimately microdose at a healthy BMI.

@pdjafcwtaoa65think we are singing from same
humn sheet. Women’s weight is all about the patriarchy setting standards to keep us skinny, childlike and focused on gaining or losing a few lbs over anything else!

These medicines are tried and tested for other indications with sufficient safety profile. We didn’t hear men worrying about Viagra did we when a new indication was discovered. Women on women is sad.

You do realise that’s how almost all modern medicines are developed?

These drugs are no different. They will have gone through animal testing for their use in the treatment of diabetes. The weight loss use did not drive the animal testing.