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To think that 'red pill, incel, Andrew Tate' content is being pushed to groom men into joining the military for forthcoming wars?

36 replies

freedomformeismotherhood · 19/04/2026 01:36

Saw a tiktok on it so not my idea, but i 100% agree now shes said it

A healthy, well adjusted man, will not want to join the front lines for a war that has nothing to do with them. But men who hate women, prefers to work out and be strong and around men = perfect soldier

Post from @thathippylookingchick on tiktok

What do you think?

OP posts:
BuffetTheDietSlayer · 19/04/2026 02:02

Is that what you think of our current male British soldiers? That they are women hating?

freedomformeismotherhood · 19/04/2026 02:08

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 19/04/2026 02:02

Is that what you think of our current male British soldiers? That they are women hating?

I mean, some definitely are ofc, but on the whole I don't think so

But if theres to be ww3 - they will have to take who signs up

OP posts:
TooBigForMyBoots · 19/04/2026 02:09

Is Andrew Tate signing up?

araiwa · 19/04/2026 02:13

Total bollocks

SwingTheMonkey · 19/04/2026 02:21

One of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. If there was a war which required boots on the ground, there would simply be conscription, nobody would need persuading to join the military by Andrew Tate, or anyone else - they’d just have to join up.
But more likely, if there were another world war, it would involve nuclear weapons and therefore ‘cannon fodder’ wouldn’t be required.
Honestly, a moment of rational thought is all this stupid theory needs…

FrangipaniBlue · 19/04/2026 03:55

Hahaha I strongly suspects the likes of Andrew Tate and the muppets in the recent Louis Theroux documentary would run a mile at the suggestion they
”sign up”

MayaPinion · 19/04/2026 04:14

An army full of incels? I can’t imagine men like that would have the balls to sign up for the army. They’re too busy sitting in their mum’s basement shouting at people on the internet.

GeneralPeter · 19/04/2026 05:28

A healthy, well adjusted man, will not want to join the front lines for a war that has nothing to do with them.

I question this. There is a a lot of evidence that many ‘normal’ men enjoy the experience of going to war.

The comradeship, purpose, excitement, problem-solving, learning. Not just the c.2% ‘aggressive psychopath’ profile who seem to actively enjoy killing.

Andrew Tate types don’t seem like good military material either. Vain or insecure and uncollegial.

changeomymind · 19/04/2026 05:33

That’s bizarre. Plenty of healthy, well-adjusted males join the forces because they want that way of life and they want to serve their country. No one ‘wants’ to go to war
but I’m very thankful there’s some brilliant women and men who are willing to do it.

Bringemout · 19/04/2026 05:46

No, I think some men are literally just that stupid.

Tensetickle · 19/04/2026 05:47

You understand the next world war won't be about trench warfare?
It won't need loads of cannon fodder

Bot farms and information wars are definitely part of the game for foreign aggressors though

Tensetickle · 19/04/2026 05:47

Bringemout · 19/04/2026 05:46

No, I think some men are literally just that stupid.

Quite

Losingtheplot2016 · 19/04/2026 05:49

No

PersonalJaysus · 19/04/2026 05:52

We’re already in WW3

It’s based on access to resources and technology

Wordsmithery · 19/04/2026 06:44

Thank you OP. You've just confirmed my belief that Tik Tok is full of nonsense.

Quine0nline · 19/04/2026 07:14

Utter rubbish. Since the 1990s women have been able to serve in front line units. So Master nicely will have a female sergeant or chief petty officer yelling at him from day one in basic training. He will serve under female senior NCOs along side female peers who will be as good or better than him. A good chance his senior officers will be female too.

People join the armed forces for a lot of reasons - training to get skills in electronics, engineering, avionics, catering and logistics. Yes, you get to fire weapons - some gels even enjoy blasting a killer tomato with a 40mm cannon.

People accept it are keen to join to preserve the peace, travel and learn. Your "raging Rambo" or "only incel" would last a short time.

EwwPeople · 19/04/2026 07:20

You give them too much credit. It’s literally about likes (adulation/adoration feeding the ego) and money .

Owninterpreter · 19/04/2026 07:33

I dont think that is the purpose of that tik tok content. It is all about likes and money. I actually think the 'manosphere' side that pushes hatred of women could speak against it. More of a 'see you were a second rate citizen and now the nasty women want you to go die so they can pick top men and eat cake'

I do think we will start to see a push for people to join the armed forces but initially they will want the right type of people for the roles they want. I dint think women hating makes a good soldier and I dont think the army wants to recruit on the basis of hatred of women.

jackstini · 19/04/2026 07:51

Utter bollocks

Coming from a mum of a junior soldier currently in training for the army, and based on a good overview of the young men and women who are training alongside him

Of course there are always a few idiots - but the army will weed most of them
out. The vast majority are joining for skills, travel, camaraderie, great salary/benefits etc.

Once they do pass out after phases 1 and 2, then go to unit; when not at war they are mostly utilised in peace-keeping or rebuilding after conflicts or natural disasters

I suggest you do more actual research and less mindless TikTok scrolling

AgentJohnson · 19/04/2026 07:52

Jesus Christ!!!!

The majority of the followers of Andrew Tate probably wouldn’t make it past the signing up form. What label would you attach to woman joining up?

Since when did Tik Tok become home to well thought out conversation pieces? Pssst, it hasn’t. It’s a place for ill thought ideas packaged for the gullible.

sausagedog2000 · 19/04/2026 08:45

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 19/04/2026 02:02

Is that what you think of our current male British soldiers? That they are women hating?

If you’ve spent any time around them you would know that they are.

TheGreatDownandOut · 19/04/2026 08:49

Nah, not plausible. If you ever want to try and figure out underlying reasons for stuff like this, just follow the money. They post incel content because it makes them a lot of money. That’s literally the whole reason behind it (also they are cunts)

Ohmygeorgey · 19/04/2026 08:50

Saw on Tiltok & 100% agree.

👍🏼

There in demonstrating the issue with TikTok/SM in general. People seeing one thing and believing what they say is spot on, without any critical thinking. The sort of thinking that has made Andrew Tate successful with certain groups of boys.

Those guys will be the ones hiding out in someone’s home gym in Marbella when shit goes down. The thought they’re being prepped to fight for their country is hilarious.

You actually think a grown man who refers to himself as HStikytoky (I can’t be arsed to look up the spelling) and whines at his “mummy” about his juice bar is a good candidate for the front line? We’re all fucked if he is.

OutsideLookingOut · 19/04/2026 08:54

Supposedly there are incels paying extortionate amounts for these masculinity bootcamps (paying for men to shout at and humiliate them).

In the US there were people willingly moving to Russia to be less "woke" and ending up in the army (not sure if that was by choice though or an own goal).

OutsideLookingOut · 19/04/2026 09:04

OutsideLookingOut · 19/04/2026 08:54

Supposedly there are incels paying extortionate amounts for these masculinity bootcamps (paying for men to shout at and humiliate them).

In the US there were people willingly moving to Russia to be less "woke" and ending up in the army (not sure if that was by choice though or an own goal).

Edited

To add YANBU. I think that is part of the aim. Hence the strict adherence to gender roles and the promise that these men (who return) will be entitled to submissive young women on their return (perhaps with less competition from other men who are now dead). In reality though many will not be able to cut it or self preservation will kick in.

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