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AIBU not to let my mum come and 'help' when the baby is born?

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 07:40

I'm not being unreasonable, am I? I

I'm 7 months pregnant, single mum by choice. I do not have an enormous support network but I do have multiple friends/family members who've offered help in the immediate period after the baby is born. My mum, who is 70, keeps steamrollering me with insistance she will come up to 'look after' me. I have repeatedly said while I understand she'd love to come and see the baby, I do not need or want her to come to look after me. I think we have hit crunch time.

I have a difficult relationship with my mum, who is pretty awful to me; it is (very, very partially) redeemed by the fact that when my ex (female) was pregnant with DD (9) and when DD was tiny, she was surprisingly thoughtful and good. A year ago, we arranged to go on holiday together. We've just got back, and woah, was it a mistake. I was apprenehsive because both my brothers had had incidents of our parents badly overstepping with their children this past year. This holiday made me feel I really don't want either parent (but it'd be my mum) around immediately after the baby is born, because if this holiday is anything to go by, she thinks 'looking after me' would be carte blanche to be an absolute controlling nightmare. Reasons (minor and grating to more major):

There is a constant, low-level undermining. Some of this is framed as jokes and some of it as flares of temper, but it's never excused. Examples of jokes would be, I mentioned in passing that my NCT group had been talking about our different careers and someone commented on an aspect of mine, and my mum instantly giggled and said 'be careful - they might believe you really do that job!' They've started doing it with my daughter too - big grins while they tell her how naughty she is or what a pain she is, and while it sounds as if it could be family banter, it's done in a way that isn't funny, and when I tell them so (repeatedly), they take no notice.

There are moments when they are disproportionately angry to be contradicted. Eg., we went round a museum with my DD. She was excited by part of it and wanted to dash and look, and my dad wanted to read and explain every display to her (she can read). I said, thinking it was no big deal, 'it doesn't matter if she doesn't understand everything'. My mum snapped, furiously, 'yes, it does matter!' They really wanted to explain everything to her in detail and were genuinely offended that she was interested in working things out for herself. I have memories of them doing this when I was a child and it was deadly dull - we'd spend hours while they tediously extracted every grain of what they considered to be educational content from an experience, with no interest in seeing what I thought of it. I let DD do her own thing and they were manifestly seething about it - it wasn't just a minor annoyance to be brushed off. This sort of thing happened repeatedly, whenever DD or I wanted to do something slightly different from what they imagined was 'right,' even if it was getting a drink for a tired child or me saying I didn't want to walk further.

During the holiday, my lovely neighbour rang to say our cat had been hit by a car; she was taking it to the emergency vets. DD was understandably upset (so was I!), and we got an awkward 'sorry' from my parents who then began discussing the way rabbits zig-zagged over the road in front of their car (?!). Neighbour subsequently rang to say the cat had died at the vet's; my parents saw me take this call and didn't react. A couple of days later I commented to my mum that DD was finding it hard, and my mum said in surprise 'oh, did the cat die?' and then moved on. In the car, they nearly hit a pheasant and started a conversation about they're silly birds and I wonder why they get hit so often? I had to tell them to stop, and again, they were totally surprised it might be upsetting or inappropriate.

The last straw was my mum suddenly asked if she was insured to drive my car (I'm insured on theirs, for various reasons). I said no. She said 'it might be useful'. Not wanting to be rude (her driving is awful and there's absolutely no need for her to drive my car), I said I thought she might find it tricky to drive (she hates swapping cars and finds it extremely difficult). She shouted, angrily, 'well you will find I HAVE to be!' It is clear this is part of her thinking she will come up to 'look after' me and a baby. I repeated that there was absolutely no need; I don't plan to need someone driving my car and I have plans for when the baby is born.

I really think their behaviour is batshit. But it's so hard to know because you could 'explain away' so much of it if you saw just that little bit in isolation. My mum clearly imagines I'm going to call her in labour and she'll drive up; I've said repeatedly I don't intend to do this. But would I be unreasonable to get the birth out of the way and then tell her a time she can visit, afterwards, making clear it's a visit not 'coming to help'.

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:48

dapsnotplimsolls · 11/04/2026 11:19

Why not suggest they visit 2 weeks after the birth for a couple of days, if you can bear the thought. That way, there is a concrete plan.

I think she will just ignore anything she doesn't like the sound of. This holiday really reinforced to me how much both of my parents do that. They'd talked all the talk about how they'd like to know what DD and I wanted to do, but in practice, it was as if they didn't hear us. All suggestions were just brushed aside with 'oh well, no one wants to do that do they?' or a bemused 'we're doing this today'.

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MrsVBS · 11/04/2026 11:53

When I started reading I thought you might be glad of some help but as it went on I completely agree it sounds awful. Don’t let her steamroll you into anything, say no and be firm. Good luck!

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:53

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/04/2026 11:48

Yanbu to not have your mum there but you absolutely do need someone there will you just in case especially if you’ve had a c section . A rotation of loving friends is probably better than your mum, plus I imagine your dd would be very helpful too

Thank you! I think DD will be wonderful, actually - she's an absolute darling and she is very, very good in general. I think a big part of why I am so browned off at the moment was that I had to keep defending her to them, and she is actually a really nice child who was making a big effort with them.

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WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:54

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:43

Confused What's wrong with that as a response? You sound perfectly empathetic and nice.

Thank you. I do try and eventually realised that focusing on the upset friend made it easier because obviously I don’t want people I care about to be sad so it’s irrelevant whether or not I actually care about the pet.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:56

MrsVBS · 11/04/2026 11:53

When I started reading I thought you might be glad of some help but as it went on I completely agree it sounds awful. Don’t let her steamroll you into anything, say no and be firm. Good luck!

Thank you! Yes, it's a really tricky balance because I am aware help would be good; I am nervous about what happens if I have a section (especially if it's as hard as it was for my ex and our DD). I would do quite a bit of compromising/biting my tongue, because I'm not under any illusion it'll be a walk in the park. But I just think this was the final straw really.

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TeacheeTeacherson · 11/04/2026 11:56

When I had DD1, I was living with my parents for the first month as our house purchase got delayed. So many people said ‘oh it’ll be lovely to have your mum to help’, but it was a nightmare. They didn’t help at all, didn’t change a single nappy, were very critical, complained about hearing the baby cry in the night, which was also apparently disturbing my brother when he had to go to his big important job in the morning. They only put on the hot water for a couple of hours even though there were 5 of us in the house, so when I wanted to shower I would have to switch it on and wait an hour, by which point the baby would probably need feeding, and then by the time I was ‘ready’ to shower they would have used the hot water and I would have to start all over again. They also got very annoyed if I made myself food and didn’t immediately wash up becuase I was feeding the baby. It was a really miserable and stressful time, I would far rather have been on my own. Don’t give in to her, you will regret it.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:57

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:54

Thank you. I do try and eventually realised that focusing on the upset friend made it easier because obviously I don’t want people I care about to be sad so it’s irrelevant whether or not I actually care about the pet.

You sound lovely.

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WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:59

Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:44

it’s not difficult to know that is a 9 year olds pet has just been run over, you don’t make comments about running over other animals and it happens because they are stupid in front of the child.

you don’t need to be a pet person to see that.

I agree that in the specific context they could have been kinder, I just don’t agree that not reacting ‘properly’ about the loss of a pet equals a lack of empathy in general. They sound more thoughtless than anything and I can understand that: the death of the cat clearly wasn’t at the forefront of their minds so it didn’t occur to spare their granddaughter’s feelings. I’m not saying they were in the right but I imagine I’ve been similarly thoughtless at times.

LikeASoulWithoutAMind · 11/04/2026 12:00

YANBU in the slightest. It sounds like having her around would be very stressful which is the last thing you need.

Do make sure you've got a concrete plan in place for after the birth though, especially if a c-section might be on the cards. I know my sister (also a single mum) could do very little to start with, she really needed someone with her (or at least on call) most of the time.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 12:01

@TeacheeTeacherson, I'm sorry, that sounds really rough.

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niclw · 11/04/2026 12:06

I’m also an SMBC with a super controlling mum. I read your OP and my initial reaction was that I couldn’t go on holiday with my mum. She tries to control everything so I live far enough away from her that she can’t just pop round. My mum turned up at my door when I was in labour and stayed for a week. We hadn’t discussed her being there. In fact we had discussed that a friend would be with me. That particular friend lives 3 mins drive from me and her boss supported her being there for me if I needed her in work hours so I really didn’t need my mum. However, the hospital didn’t want me there until the last minute as I live so close and there were no complications and by the time I went in I didn’t have the energy to argue. I have to admit she was very helpful after I had my baby. She didn’t put any pressure on me at all, just cooked, cleaned and helped with my child while I had a shower or a nap. However, I was glad when she left as I could finally get settled into being a new mum on my own. Since then she has been completely useless. If I would you I would make sure that you have everything ready weeks before your due date. That your freezer is stocked with easy food to cook and just in case you have a c section have everything set up so it is easily successful. Also ensure that you have people on standby to help if you need it. In hindsight I probably wouldn’t tell me parents I was in labour if I had another child but that would be because my mum is getting worse with old age.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 12:08

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:59

I agree that in the specific context they could have been kinder, I just don’t agree that not reacting ‘properly’ about the loss of a pet equals a lack of empathy in general. They sound more thoughtless than anything and I can understand that: the death of the cat clearly wasn’t at the forefront of their minds so it didn’t occur to spare their granddaughter’s feelings. I’m not saying they were in the right but I imagine I’ve been similarly thoughtless at times.

But the difference - to me - seems to be that you know you're not really in tune with pets so you have to remember to reassure the people you love that you do care. And that's really considerate and thoughtful. If my parents were the sort of people who were able to say 'oh gosh, sorry, we didn't even think that this might upset DD' that would go a very long way.

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Lurkingandlearning · 11/04/2026 12:49

@CatsRock I have read many posts on many threads relating to / similar to OPs situation. Yours is the most insightful, understanding and objective I have seen. I hope OP finds it useful.

Bake · 11/04/2026 12:51

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 07:40

I'm not being unreasonable, am I? I

I'm 7 months pregnant, single mum by choice. I do not have an enormous support network but I do have multiple friends/family members who've offered help in the immediate period after the baby is born. My mum, who is 70, keeps steamrollering me with insistance she will come up to 'look after' me. I have repeatedly said while I understand she'd love to come and see the baby, I do not need or want her to come to look after me. I think we have hit crunch time.

I have a difficult relationship with my mum, who is pretty awful to me; it is (very, very partially) redeemed by the fact that when my ex (female) was pregnant with DD (9) and when DD was tiny, she was surprisingly thoughtful and good. A year ago, we arranged to go on holiday together. We've just got back, and woah, was it a mistake. I was apprenehsive because both my brothers had had incidents of our parents badly overstepping with their children this past year. This holiday made me feel I really don't want either parent (but it'd be my mum) around immediately after the baby is born, because if this holiday is anything to go by, she thinks 'looking after me' would be carte blanche to be an absolute controlling nightmare. Reasons (minor and grating to more major):

There is a constant, low-level undermining. Some of this is framed as jokes and some of it as flares of temper, but it's never excused. Examples of jokes would be, I mentioned in passing that my NCT group had been talking about our different careers and someone commented on an aspect of mine, and my mum instantly giggled and said 'be careful - they might believe you really do that job!' They've started doing it with my daughter too - big grins while they tell her how naughty she is or what a pain she is, and while it sounds as if it could be family banter, it's done in a way that isn't funny, and when I tell them so (repeatedly), they take no notice.

There are moments when they are disproportionately angry to be contradicted. Eg., we went round a museum with my DD. She was excited by part of it and wanted to dash and look, and my dad wanted to read and explain every display to her (she can read). I said, thinking it was no big deal, 'it doesn't matter if she doesn't understand everything'. My mum snapped, furiously, 'yes, it does matter!' They really wanted to explain everything to her in detail and were genuinely offended that she was interested in working things out for herself. I have memories of them doing this when I was a child and it was deadly dull - we'd spend hours while they tediously extracted every grain of what they considered to be educational content from an experience, with no interest in seeing what I thought of it. I let DD do her own thing and they were manifestly seething about it - it wasn't just a minor annoyance to be brushed off. This sort of thing happened repeatedly, whenever DD or I wanted to do something slightly different from what they imagined was 'right,' even if it was getting a drink for a tired child or me saying I didn't want to walk further.

During the holiday, my lovely neighbour rang to say our cat had been hit by a car; she was taking it to the emergency vets. DD was understandably upset (so was I!), and we got an awkward 'sorry' from my parents who then began discussing the way rabbits zig-zagged over the road in front of their car (?!). Neighbour subsequently rang to say the cat had died at the vet's; my parents saw me take this call and didn't react. A couple of days later I commented to my mum that DD was finding it hard, and my mum said in surprise 'oh, did the cat die?' and then moved on. In the car, they nearly hit a pheasant and started a conversation about they're silly birds and I wonder why they get hit so often? I had to tell them to stop, and again, they were totally surprised it might be upsetting or inappropriate.

The last straw was my mum suddenly asked if she was insured to drive my car (I'm insured on theirs, for various reasons). I said no. She said 'it might be useful'. Not wanting to be rude (her driving is awful and there's absolutely no need for her to drive my car), I said I thought she might find it tricky to drive (she hates swapping cars and finds it extremely difficult). She shouted, angrily, 'well you will find I HAVE to be!' It is clear this is part of her thinking she will come up to 'look after' me and a baby. I repeated that there was absolutely no need; I don't plan to need someone driving my car and I have plans for when the baby is born.

I really think their behaviour is batshit. But it's so hard to know because you could 'explain away' so much of it if you saw just that little bit in isolation. My mum clearly imagines I'm going to call her in labour and she'll drive up; I've said repeatedly I don't intend to do this. But would I be unreasonable to get the birth out of the way and then tell her a time she can visit, afterwards, making clear it's a visit not 'coming to help'.

So sorry about your cat. How sad💐

I was going to say you might need some help, but after reading the whole OP, set a firm boundary now! I said no visitors for 2 weeks when pregnant with my second. Important to protect your mental wellbeing while you are fragile in post partum period.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 11/04/2026 12:54

I’ve not had a c section but from what I’ve read you’ll benefit from extra help, so do whatever you can to get that from somewhere. Can you batch cook and freeze? Have a large stash of tins to get you through? Can your daughter do eg beans on toast and other simple meals (it’s a very long time since I had a nine year old!)? See what you can do now to anticipate how you might feel and make things easier for that time.

And it’s not about the pheasant or the museum, they are just a flavour of who your mum is. Those of us who ‘get it’ understand; those who don’t ’get it’ never will, it doesn’t matter how many examples you give.

It’s an exciting time, enjoy every minute!

mondaytosunday · 11/04/2026 13:05

@salagadoowhoa change the baby 8-10 times a night?! Goodness, don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone having to do that!
. I’ve had two sections and no help and managed fine, though understand it may be different experience for others. Certainly would not want a parent around though - and my mother was a truly helpful and kind person but it would really have just been another thing to deal with and didn’t need the help anyway. Fortunately she was also capable of understanding my point of view.

VioletsAreBlue33934 · 11/04/2026 13:23

YANBU. My mum insisted she come help when my baby was born. The best thing I ever did was insist she doesn't come until week 3 (we live abroad).

She's much nicer than your mum but her version of helpful is incredibly controlling. It has to be done HER way. At least at 3 weeks post partum I had more strength and confidence to stand up to her. I would have gone insane with her there when we came home from hospital.

Coconutter24 · 11/04/2026 14:02

Wonderones · 11/04/2026 08:47

But would you have had that pheasant conversation in front of a child who had just found out her cat had been hit by a car?

Probably yes, if there’s a pheasant in the road it would probably be said.

Maray1967 · 11/04/2026 14:43

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 08:59

Well, that made me laugh at least! Grin Your FIL sounds incredibly un-self-aware.

Issues around food are part of what make me tense with DD and my PIL. They are very much the generation of 'eat what is on your plate and eat everything' and also very anti-sugar. DD eats a fairly adventurous range of foods but is naturally slim and small for her age, and I accept that if we are eating out, she may well not finish a whole portion. This leads to constant tutting and comments about waste, and the repeated assumption that if DD didn't clean her plate at 12.30, she must push on through to 7.30 for dinner without a snack because she 'didn't eat enough'. And there is a constant belief that arbitrary foods are 'good' and others 'bad' - so my mum was all mournful and offended DD politely said no thanks to cherry tomatoes, because she's not a huge fan. She never has been and my mum does this every time. However, my mum herself doesn't like a certain type of grape and sat there pulling faces while DD and I ate them and making comments about it. It's really annoying!

That is interesting - I am very naive to think that MIL is a one-off!

FIL will usually eat just about anything - but both of them are wary of ‘foreign’ food. MIL has far more food issues and will comment on fussiness, while at the same time advising me not to let them have too many strawberries because she thinks you should only have a few. That was one of the few times I pushed back directly, rather than working around the situation. I said DS could have a lot of strawberries as he’s not keen on a lot of fruit so if there’s one he likes he has a good bowlful. She didn’t say anything.

Maray1967 · 11/04/2026 14:46

Expecting a child to last from lunch to 7.30 is truly weird though. Even strict victorian aristocratic houses served had afternoon tea before formal dinner at 8. And the DC had their tea with Nanny before 6. Who on earth thinks kids should go for 7 hours during the day without food!!

Maray1967 · 11/04/2026 14:48

My PIL did have to be reminded by my SIL that when she sends DNs with water bottles they should take them out for the day. PIL left them at home and expected DNs to manage with a glass of squash at lunchtime and nothing else.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 14:55

Lurkingandlearning · 11/04/2026 12:49

@CatsRock I have read many posts on many threads relating to / similar to OPs situation. Yours is the most insightful, understanding and objective I have seen. I hope OP finds it useful.

I agree! I found it hugely useful.

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 14:57

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 11/04/2026 12:54

I’ve not had a c section but from what I’ve read you’ll benefit from extra help, so do whatever you can to get that from somewhere. Can you batch cook and freeze? Have a large stash of tins to get you through? Can your daughter do eg beans on toast and other simple meals (it’s a very long time since I had a nine year old!)? See what you can do now to anticipate how you might feel and make things easier for that time.

And it’s not about the pheasant or the museum, they are just a flavour of who your mum is. Those of us who ‘get it’ understand; those who don’t ’get it’ never will, it doesn’t matter how many examples you give.

It’s an exciting time, enjoy every minute!

I've got a freezer stocked already, and tins, and yes, DD is pretty good and can do simple pasta and sauce/beans on toast stuff. And I do have people who are happy to help. Indeed my lovely neighbour (the one who took the cat to the vet) has just reiterated previous offers of help.

I really appreciate the understanding - thank you!

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 15:04

Maray1967 · 11/04/2026 14:46

Expecting a child to last from lunch to 7.30 is truly weird though. Even strict victorian aristocratic houses served had afternoon tea before formal dinner at 8. And the DC had their tea with Nanny before 6. Who on earth thinks kids should go for 7 hours during the day without food!!

I think it's a mixture of just honestly not thinking about it - a sort 'well we're not hungry so why would anyone else be?' logic - and a very rigid 'this child has been naughty bt not eating' attitude. They are the generation for whom 'go to bed without dinner' was a punishment. I know my older brother has tried quite hard to have the conversation about how, these days, most people really don't try to get their children to force down food, and most of us are worried about obesity/eating disorders. (I do also dislike food waste - as who doesn't, when it's become so expensive?! - but I don't see it the same way they do.)

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Smittenkitchen · 11/04/2026 15:34

Yeah it's sounds like you'll have to with-hold information if she won't take no for an answer.