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AIBU not to let my mum come and 'help' when the baby is born?

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 07:40

I'm not being unreasonable, am I? I

I'm 7 months pregnant, single mum by choice. I do not have an enormous support network but I do have multiple friends/family members who've offered help in the immediate period after the baby is born. My mum, who is 70, keeps steamrollering me with insistance she will come up to 'look after' me. I have repeatedly said while I understand she'd love to come and see the baby, I do not need or want her to come to look after me. I think we have hit crunch time.

I have a difficult relationship with my mum, who is pretty awful to me; it is (very, very partially) redeemed by the fact that when my ex (female) was pregnant with DD (9) and when DD was tiny, she was surprisingly thoughtful and good. A year ago, we arranged to go on holiday together. We've just got back, and woah, was it a mistake. I was apprenehsive because both my brothers had had incidents of our parents badly overstepping with their children this past year. This holiday made me feel I really don't want either parent (but it'd be my mum) around immediately after the baby is born, because if this holiday is anything to go by, she thinks 'looking after me' would be carte blanche to be an absolute controlling nightmare. Reasons (minor and grating to more major):

There is a constant, low-level undermining. Some of this is framed as jokes and some of it as flares of temper, but it's never excused. Examples of jokes would be, I mentioned in passing that my NCT group had been talking about our different careers and someone commented on an aspect of mine, and my mum instantly giggled and said 'be careful - they might believe you really do that job!' They've started doing it with my daughter too - big grins while they tell her how naughty she is or what a pain she is, and while it sounds as if it could be family banter, it's done in a way that isn't funny, and when I tell them so (repeatedly), they take no notice.

There are moments when they are disproportionately angry to be contradicted. Eg., we went round a museum with my DD. She was excited by part of it and wanted to dash and look, and my dad wanted to read and explain every display to her (she can read). I said, thinking it was no big deal, 'it doesn't matter if she doesn't understand everything'. My mum snapped, furiously, 'yes, it does matter!' They really wanted to explain everything to her in detail and were genuinely offended that she was interested in working things out for herself. I have memories of them doing this when I was a child and it was deadly dull - we'd spend hours while they tediously extracted every grain of what they considered to be educational content from an experience, with no interest in seeing what I thought of it. I let DD do her own thing and they were manifestly seething about it - it wasn't just a minor annoyance to be brushed off. This sort of thing happened repeatedly, whenever DD or I wanted to do something slightly different from what they imagined was 'right,' even if it was getting a drink for a tired child or me saying I didn't want to walk further.

During the holiday, my lovely neighbour rang to say our cat had been hit by a car; she was taking it to the emergency vets. DD was understandably upset (so was I!), and we got an awkward 'sorry' from my parents who then began discussing the way rabbits zig-zagged over the road in front of their car (?!). Neighbour subsequently rang to say the cat had died at the vet's; my parents saw me take this call and didn't react. A couple of days later I commented to my mum that DD was finding it hard, and my mum said in surprise 'oh, did the cat die?' and then moved on. In the car, they nearly hit a pheasant and started a conversation about they're silly birds and I wonder why they get hit so often? I had to tell them to stop, and again, they were totally surprised it might be upsetting or inappropriate.

The last straw was my mum suddenly asked if she was insured to drive my car (I'm insured on theirs, for various reasons). I said no. She said 'it might be useful'. Not wanting to be rude (her driving is awful and there's absolutely no need for her to drive my car), I said I thought she might find it tricky to drive (she hates swapping cars and finds it extremely difficult). She shouted, angrily, 'well you will find I HAVE to be!' It is clear this is part of her thinking she will come up to 'look after' me and a baby. I repeated that there was absolutely no need; I don't plan to need someone driving my car and I have plans for when the baby is born.

I really think their behaviour is batshit. But it's so hard to know because you could 'explain away' so much of it if you saw just that little bit in isolation. My mum clearly imagines I'm going to call her in labour and she'll drive up; I've said repeatedly I don't intend to do this. But would I be unreasonable to get the birth out of the way and then tell her a time she can visit, afterwards, making clear it's a visit not 'coming to help'.

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 08:53

Wonderones · 11/04/2026 08:44

It's not unreasonable to not want your mum there. She sounds a lot like what my mum was like!
But you do need a real plan for if you have a c section. This might make her leave you alone 😂 You just won't be mobile enough if you're fully alone for a few days. There are nannies you can pay for after the birth , for example.

I am leaning towards this - I looked at doulas and night nannies. It looks as if I could still book this within the next few weeks (I may end up with an elective section; I have a meeting with my midwife about it coming up). If I don't have a section, I have multiple people who've offered help, including staying overnight, which is kind.

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 08:59

Maray1967 · 11/04/2026 08:39

I made sure that DS2 in particular was not exposed to PIL on his own because they just didn’t ‘get’ him and their behaviour towards him could be concerning. One incident in particular when he was about 10 when we’d invited them for part of our holiday was awful. He was worrying about whether he could have plain food in a restaurant where everything was advertised as being covered in sauce and there was a lot of tut tutting going on about ‘fussiness’ which was just making the situation worse. The very next day FIL actually said there was nothing he liked on a very extensive menu. I remember looking at DH very pointedly.

So I learned that they couldn’t cope with DS and it was just better to make sure we were always there for him when with them. If I’d had a baby to deal with it that would have been tricky, I agree.

Well, that made me laugh at least! Grin Your FIL sounds incredibly un-self-aware.

Issues around food are part of what make me tense with DD and my PIL. They are very much the generation of 'eat what is on your plate and eat everything' and also very anti-sugar. DD eats a fairly adventurous range of foods but is naturally slim and small for her age, and I accept that if we are eating out, she may well not finish a whole portion. This leads to constant tutting and comments about waste, and the repeated assumption that if DD didn't clean her plate at 12.30, she must push on through to 7.30 for dinner without a snack because she 'didn't eat enough'. And there is a constant belief that arbitrary foods are 'good' and others 'bad' - so my mum was all mournful and offended DD politely said no thanks to cherry tomatoes, because she's not a huge fan. She never has been and my mum does this every time. However, my mum herself doesn't like a certain type of grape and sat there pulling faces while DD and I ate them and making comments about it. It's really annoying!

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redtabby · 11/04/2026 09:01

When you say they, are there other members of the family backing her up in this?

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 09:03

redtabby · 11/04/2026 09:01

When you say they, are there other members of the family backing her up in this?

'They' is her and my dad - they are similar in a lot of ways; it's just it's my mum who is fixed on this idea of coming up to 'help'.

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redtabby · 11/04/2026 09:07

Mmm, I thought that might be the case. That makes it trickier if he always backs her up by default. But if I were you I would still put my foot down, I believe. Your baby, your body, your choices.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 09:17

redtabby · 11/04/2026 09:07

Mmm, I thought that might be the case. That makes it trickier if he always backs her up by default. But if I were you I would still put my foot down, I believe. Your baby, your body, your choices.

It's not that he backs her up; he's pretty much the same. It's just he would see the idea of 'coming to look after me' as women's work, so he's not so fixated on doing it.

I think putting my foot down has got me nowhere - it just gets steamrollered past. So I think I am down to being a bit less than open about it and not giving the opportunity.

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EsmeSusanOgg · 11/04/2026 09:38

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 08:59

Well, that made me laugh at least! Grin Your FIL sounds incredibly un-self-aware.

Issues around food are part of what make me tense with DD and my PIL. They are very much the generation of 'eat what is on your plate and eat everything' and also very anti-sugar. DD eats a fairly adventurous range of foods but is naturally slim and small for her age, and I accept that if we are eating out, she may well not finish a whole portion. This leads to constant tutting and comments about waste, and the repeated assumption that if DD didn't clean her plate at 12.30, she must push on through to 7.30 for dinner without a snack because she 'didn't eat enough'. And there is a constant belief that arbitrary foods are 'good' and others 'bad' - so my mum was all mournful and offended DD politely said no thanks to cherry tomatoes, because she's not a huge fan. She never has been and my mum does this every time. However, my mum herself doesn't like a certain type of grape and sat there pulling faces while DD and I ate them and making comments about it. It's really annoying!

Oh God. The generation of giving people awful good habits and ED behaviours.

I remember this attitude in school dinners. I was a tiny wee thing (third centile height/ weight) and I often struggled to finish lunch (which was often pretty terrible). But friends who were much taller and bigger were not allowed to have more even if they were hungry. Almost like different people have different appetites.

Sorry for the tangent - but yes, your parents sound exhausting.

TickingKey46 · 11/04/2026 10:02

They just sound as if they are very unaware! I find it hard/ carn't relax constantly having people around me. I'm very social but love going home at the end of the day by myself, just me and my kids.
It doesn't really matter what your parents are like, if you dont want it that's 100% fine. Maybe they think your just being polite? Regardless i think you may need to be a bit blunder. Say you dont want anyone staying with you and that your looking forward to the alone time. If they continue your need to say " no I dont want that".

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 11/04/2026 10:07

Yeah just don't tell her until you've had the baby. I'd give it about 4 years. 😉

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 10:10

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 11/04/2026 10:07

Yeah just don't tell her until you've had the baby. I'd give it about 4 years. 😉

Grin

'What, this toddler? Been around for years. Surprised you didn't notice.'

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curious79 · 11/04/2026 10:14

If I have one regret after giving birth, it’s letting others, namely my ex, steam roll me into what they thought I should be doing and who I should be seeing and what I should be up to.

Without any explanation needed, the fact of the matter is you instinctively know it is going to be difficult having your mother there. So don’t invite that difficulty in. If needed, mislead her on your due dates too. But please stand your ground.

Chatsbots · 11/04/2026 10:44

I get it...

Other people saying how fantastic their mums are don't get how stressful mums like this are. I now have one of those fancy watches and my HR goes up 20 beats and my respiration rate is doubled...

You need people who get you, not who wind you up.

Nowvoyager99 · 11/04/2026 10:47

I would leave it as long as you can before telling her baby is born. Then tell her XYZ person is staying with you and looking after you so no need for her to put herself out. You will visit her when you are ready.

bigboykitty · 11/04/2026 11:00

Please don't let your mum come under any circumstances. It sounds like the issue is that you try to be too reasonable with your very unreasonable parents and of course they don't listen. You have to be very blunt with them. As in 'no, I don't want you to come and if you turn up I won't be opening the door'.

TheCommonWoMan · 11/04/2026 11:00

Not what you need at all!

BUT.
it is a mother's instinct to want to help her offspring.
Thats why the other poster upthread's mother wanted to fly to NZ to 'help'.

Be kind in telling her

dapsnotplimsolls · 11/04/2026 11:19

Why not suggest they visit 2 weeks after the birth for a couple of days, if you can bear the thought. That way, there is a concrete plan.

hypnovic · 11/04/2026 11:19

Octavia64 · 11/04/2026 08:05

My mum is similar.

my brother lives in New Zealand and his wife was recently diagnosed with breast cancer.

my mum who is 80 was making plans to fly over there and “help” them. They don’t need her help and honestly she can’t do very much anyway as she is very frail and can’t walk far or do much. She has it fixed in her head that she is physically able and competent no matter how much the reality changes.

I don't think a good mums urge to help and support thier children switches off just because the body can't keep up. It's sad to watch happen they feel useless when they used to be able to soothe their babies

PinkiePipe · 11/04/2026 11:22

YANBU. The postpartum period can be so vulnerable and exhausting. I don't have a Mum but having my MIL (also difficult and overbearing) visit frequently in the first few weeks made things so much harder for me. I literally wanted to scream every time she tried to grab my baby and run off to another room with them and I felt constantly defensive, undermined and stressed. And luckily she was only ever around for a day or two at a time! But my feelings were absolutely visceral and almost animalistic, I just wanted us both to be left quietly alone to recover/bond/try to figure out breastfeeding etc in peace.

I think you're in a great position in a way because you have realised that her "help" will be unhelpful well in advance, you can set your boundaries now. Stick to your guns. And best of luck!

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

LeavesOnTrees · 11/04/2026 07:49

YANBU , your mum sounds toxic and not what you need after giving birth.
I'd give her minimum information about birth dates and arrangements.
You don't need to tell her when you go into labour.
She didn't care about your cat dying because she has no empathy.

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:43

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

Confused What's wrong with that as a response? You sound perfectly empathetic and nice.
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Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:44

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

it’s not difficult to know that is a 9 year olds pet has just been run over, you don’t make comments about running over other animals and it happens because they are stupid in front of the child.

you don’t need to be a pet person to see that.

MotherOfSoManyCats · 11/04/2026 11:45

Childbirth is an emotional time and your hormones may crash to give you the "baby blues" after a few days... mixing this in with someone who behaves like your mum may be a total disaster.

If you feel strong enough I would stop saying you dont need help and begin saying that YOU WANT to spend the time with your baby alone and that you won't be opening the door to ANY visitors. However, please have a friend on hand (if there is one) to help you out should things not go smoothly and you do actually need help or begin to struggle.

Good luck x

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:46

TheCommonWoMan · 11/04/2026 11:00

Not what you need at all!

BUT.
it is a mother's instinct to want to help her offspring.
Thats why the other poster upthread's mother wanted to fly to NZ to 'help'.

Be kind in telling her

YY, I do see that.

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Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:46

hypnovic · 11/04/2026 11:19

I don't think a good mums urge to help and support thier children switches off just because the body can't keep up. It's sad to watch happen they feel useless when they used to be able to soothe their babies

Might be sad, but when their daughter is giving birth and trying to figure out motherhood this is not the time to accommodate their hurt feelings. For a couple of weeks mum and baby should take priority over everything else.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/04/2026 11:48

Yanbu to not have your mum there but you absolutely do need someone there will you just in case especially if you’ve had a c section . A rotation of loving friends is probably better than your mum, plus I imagine your dd would be very helpful too