School as child care

[Differentforgirls]

From another thread.

A poster said that state schools are there for helping parents to work. Therefore teachers are childminders. Teachers!

I think schools are there to educate our children and, though the staff go above and beyond these days, that is their primary function.

AIBU?

I'm really not sure what being in Scotland has to do with anything, as a person who lives in Scotland. Even if there are more public holidays, it doesn't translate into more actual holidays so it doesn't help cover the school holidays. I don't get any public holidays unless I take them out of my overall allowance. Calling the first year of school a different name is also irrelevant.

i’m curious who the OP thinks is taking care of children while they are at school, if not the teachers? 🤔

During Covid schools stayed open for the very purpose of providing childcare for key workers.

She won't answer that

No, you’re right, I won’t. Because, as I posted earlier, it’s like trying to catch smoke.

@Differentforgirlsdo you think that saying that teachers provide childcare is an inherently demeaning comment?

is childcare “less than” teaching, somehow?

Answering a pretty basic question posed to you?

Apparently asking questions like this makes you an attention seeker 🤷‍♀️

You can definitely see by this thread the people who value education and the people who view school as childcare. Thank you to the former who understood my op. 😊❤️

I think it's more that you can see who on this thread can see that two things can be true at the same time.

Maybe aim that at the people asking me about it, rather than me being polite enough to answer.

sounds more like you have a case of internalised misogyny and dont value the childcare element of what teachers do.

🤣🤣🤣

Jesus, all teachers are women now. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. 😱

err no. child care is historically a female dominated role, and this is why it often undervalued.

I actually think this thread is really sad. On paper you have plenty, a DH, children and early retirement. And yet here you are begging for attention from mothers because your life is that unhappy.

Can you? Cos what I see are people saying they value education but appreciate the childcare element of school.

What are your thoughts on the fact schools stayed open for key workers during lockdown?

I honestly have no words. The whole point of my thread is that teachers shouldn’t be viewed as child carers because they are TEACHERS. They have studied, got a degree, then gone on to TEACH.

I agree that child carers are undervalued. I also agree that this is historically a female role and that nursery staff should get more than the minimum wage.

BUT, I see threads on here frequently where women are determined that they don’t want a male nursery nurse “just in case”.

Women who have obviously had sex with their partner, had children with him, then decide that they can’t leave their child with a man.

This is why it will always be a female dominated role.

Goodness knows!! This thread has lost the plot I think 😂

I expect she will just send a snarky response though rather than answering!

I think you should get that title actually. You win! 👏

(FYI it’s very normal for people to engage with threads. And - shocker- people may say things that disagree with you!).

Sorry to hear that.

Who on earth are you talking to?

You.

School primary reason is to educate but yes we do care for them while they are with us.
Do some parents want schools open for longer-yes
Do some parents want schools to do the parenting, yes
Are these 2 groups the same people, no not usually.

Both Parents need to work more than my parents needed to. My DF worked all hours, my DM was a SAHM when we were younger but that meant we did go without some stuff, but managed.
Nowadays most families csnt do that , both parents have to work full time and its not about living above your means, its living with basic stuff, not luxuries.

Most parents dont want schools to be teaching their kids for longer terms and longer hours, they want a good quality 'out of school times' child care especially during holidays (could be in a school). Most employers dont want messed around with changing days, times etc which is often what holiday clubs etc offer. Grandparents are also still working themselves so struggle to offer time.

They seem to manage this so much better in other countries.